Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.34 Now Available: Buyable Engine Swaps & Special Parts, Three New Cars

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Fated
are you happy with current state of GT7? When even their pathetic Sport Mode has connection issues since launch? Oh yeah, don't get me started on career mode, the worst of all GT series
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In EU region i didn't have any issues with Sport mode , only in custom lobbies the connection is wonky

single player is ok but not great , i would liked way more events - actual old school carreer would be nice but most likely not gonna happen in GT7
 
Yard_Sale
I'm in no way advocating that money grows on trees, or that people should play the game the way I choose to do so. I've done a complete 180 from how I played GTS; which consisted of me doing 95% sport mode - to which I loved every second of. All I'm eluding to, is that there are ways to play the game other than needlessly grinding for cars. Buuuuuuuuut, if you're the sort of person that needs to have all the cars right now, then yes.... you're going to have to grind, unfortunately. However, if you don't require the instant gratification of your dream garage right now, then yes.... there are many different creative ways to play the game, and more than a few "clubs" on the forum that will show you how.

As far as people being tied to a PS4 seemingly due to financial reasons, I get it. But on the other side of that same token, I have a hard time believing that had Covid not become what it did - and GT7 was released as a PS5 exclusive as planned, very few fans of the franchise would have allowed themselves to be left in the dust. They would have figured out a way to be able to afford a PS5 (assuming they are of working age). Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember the outcry of GT6 on PS3, being the exact opposite in that the fans were wondering why it hadn't been released on the new generation hardware. And just like then as it was 18 months ago, it was a smart business decision by Sony at the time. However, now that supply chain issues are no longer an issue, it will be a smart business decision by Sony to start making "PS5 Exclusive" updates for all of their first party titles, forcing people into new consoles. Not to mention, that there's another completely relevant side that's seldom talked about in regards to PS5 owners and Cross-Get titles...


.... That those PS5 owners deserve to have a game that fully takes advantage of the new-get console that they spent their hard-earned money on. Especially when taking into account how long games take to develop these days. They may never get to play their favorite franchise that was optimized for their current hardware. Although to counter my own aforementioned point; I think Sony will delay PS6 by at least a year or two, because the demand for a new generation system would have been staved off for an additional 2 years because of previous supply-chain issues.




Regardless, I think it would be safe to assume that PD/Sony will start opening up the content drip as Forza's release draws nearer. They'd be dumb not too. And this is good for everyone
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The problem is not expecting instant gratification, the problem is it takes years, to achieve said goal. Not only is it very time consuming, as it is boring, since the money grinding methods remain the same. Their idea of "not having players grind the same event over and over again" was to keep the payouts very low in all the events, and then select a few that pay slightly more (but still less than previous games), so people grind these events over and over again? That's just irrational. They clearly thought that the ability to sell cars solved this problem, but unless the game gave away free (duplicate) cars constantly, people may not have anything to sell, making it a useless feature and an unreliable source of income.

I thought people have figured by now, why GT6 was released on PS3 and not PS4. They clearly weren't ready to make a PS4 game with, at the time, PS4 quality. We saw in GT Sport, how the content was reduced to a minimum, as they did everything from scratch.

If GT7 was a PS5 exclusive, it wouldn't be much better. It's not like making it exclusive to PS5, would make the payouts better, or give us a better, proper, campaign.
 
Yard_Sale
Every time I read a “the sky is falling, someone do something!” Comment, I’m often reminded of this clip….

warning! Expletives present!!*


And it’s perfect, because I get to poke fun at myself as an everlasting PD-lover and defender. And it also perfectly captures the essence of the small group of people whom interpret every GT7 update as a deliberate, personal attack against them


Leave Kaz Alooooooooooone!!! 🤣
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It’s an ultimatum like they’re going to leave the game if things aren’t fixed. Usually said with no constructive feedback or suggestions either. GT7 is dead I’m outta here until you fix it or until another update comes and it doesn‘t include anything I want then I’m outta here again!! It’s the equivalent of me commenting one word “weak” then leaving.

However… IMO, GT7 will die if they don’t fix the economy of the game. ”hey buddy you should buy this game so you can run a Yaris around the track against our 917k’s it’ll be fun!” Don’t get me wrong, I don’t actually mind earning the cars, but it’s a ridiculous amount of grinding one of three tracks to acquire them in a reasonable amount of time. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if multiplayer online paid out as well as most single player races (which isn’t even that good) I would have no issue with the economy. I don’t understand why online gives you table scraps for payouts.

Hours I’ve played is 77:58:49, credits earned $160,000,000. I don’t know if that’s good or not. Feels like I play this game every night for two hours, but multiplayer only usually. I also feel like I have no credits. I load up at $6 million, race two hours, all I see is $6 million before I go to bed. Tune one car and I’m under $6 million again. It’s ridiculous.
 
hyperspeed980
S2000...?
We've only got one road-going S2000. Maybe you meant the DC2 Integra.
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Yes, but former GT game... We have see only one S2000 year 1999 on GT7

S2000 at 1999 see Standard - Since GT2
S2000 at 2006 see Facelift - former GT 5/6
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...... but the
Ford Sierra/Escort Cosworth & Rally Edit?
Fiat Coupè 20V, Fiat Punto 1.4 GT/Evo SS?
Alfa Romeo 156/GTV 3.2 V6 24v?
Alfa 155, 145/146 2.0 Cloverleaf, 75 3.0?
Renault Megane RS275?
Clio 2.0 Williams or Clio Trophy 2.0? Renault 5 1.4 GT Turbo?
Opel Calibra 2.0 Turbo/ V6 & DTM? (Astra/Vectra DTM)?
Peugeot 306 Maxi, 2.0 6M? 205 1.9Gti?
Mercedes E190 2.5 Evo II? Mercedes C-Klasse DTM 95', CLK DTM 00'?
Nissan 270R, Nismo Z, R33, R34 Z-Tune?
Honda Civic Coupè or Hachback 1.6 V-Tec 96'?
Mitsubishi FTO GP Ver?
Hyundai i20/i30N?

... No ok... we have to drive the ******* Key Car or the SRT Tomahawk for going on the moon. They continue to insert the cars we wan't request or desired.
And then there are cars without a criterion, it is not possible to recreate a race with cars participating in the same championship in real life, because they may also appear to be from the same category but they are from different years.
Embarassing.
 
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Orazio
Ford Sierra/Escort Cosworth & Rally Edit?
Fiat Coupè 20V, Fiat Punto 1.4 GT/Evo SS?
Alfa Romeo 156/GTV 3.2 V6 24v?
Alfa 155, 145/146 2.0 Cloverleaf, 75 3.0?
Renault Megane RS275?
Clio 2.0 Williams or Clio Trophy 2.0? Renault 5 1.4 GT Turbo?
Opel Calibra 2.0 Turbo/ V6 & DTM? (Astra/Vectra DTM)?
Peugeot 306 Maxi, 2.0 6M? 205 1.9Gti?
Mercedes E190 2.5 Evo II? Mercedes C-Klasse DTM 95', CLK DTM 00'?
Nissan 270R, Nismo Z, R33, R34 Z-Tune?
Honda Civic Coupè or Hachback 1.6 V-Tec 96'?
Mitsubishi FTO GP Ver?
Hyundai i20/i30N?
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I'm sure everyone has a list of cars that are important to them, and I'm quite sure a lot of the cars on your list won't crossover with other people's. If everyone just posted random lists of cars they wanted (without any consideration for how feasible or worthwhile they are to licence and scan) we'd have an unusable site full of wishlists and arguments about wishlists.

That's why we have the Suggestions forums: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/board/cars.339/
Orazio
They continue to insert the cars we wan't request or desired.
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Actually there's quite a few cars that rank very highly on the list of cars "we" request and desire, as ranked by votes in the Suggestions forum. You might not want or desire them, but then that takes us back to the first point again - and you are not we..
 
hawkeyez
It’s an ultimatum like they’re going to leave the game if things aren’t fixed. Usually said with no constructive feedback or suggestions either. GT7 is dead I’m outta here until you fix it or until another update comes and it doesn‘t include anything I want then I’m outta here again!! It’s the equivalent of me commenting one word “weak” then leaving.

However… IMO, GT7 will die if they don’t fix the economy of the game. ”hey buddy you should buy this game so you can run a Yaris around the track against our 917k’s it’ll be fun!” Don’t get me wrong, I don’t actually mind earning the cars, but it’s a ridiculous amount of grinding one of three tracks to acquire them in a reasonable amount of time. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if multiplayer online paid out as well as most single player races (which isn’t even that good) I would have no issue with the economy. I don’t understand why online gives you table scraps for payouts.

Hours I’ve played is 77:58:49, credits earned $160,000,000. I don’t know if that’s good or not. Feels like I play this game every night for two hours, but multiplayer only usually. I also feel like I have no credits. I load up at $6 million, race two hours, all I see is $6 million before I go to bed. Tune one car and I’m under $6 million again. It’s ridiculous.
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I though the same initially but the pacing is actually about right, there is nothing more hollow than a full collection. Its an illusion that you need to collect all the cars many VGT's and vintage / premium cars are meh. Having earned 400+ cars once you go through the drive / review phase I sold most and just have 130 keepers, and ended up with a huge surplus of credits. The main gripe with economy is having to earn in a constricted way on just a few courses. Certainly with the long view now its not as daunting a grind as it initially seemed as a lot of the fruit on the tree is sour lol. On the back end the game is much better with an established garage of customised faves and only doing custom races without even considering if you get credits or not. Its a shame there is not a test drive for each car before you buy it, restricted to Route x perhaps ( I suspect this would be rejected out of hand by the fiend who wants us to buy MTX ).
 
Orazio
...... but the
Ford Sierra/Escort Cosworth & Rally Edit?
Fiat Coupè 20V, Fiat Punto 1.4 GT/Evo SS?
Alfa Romeo 156/GTV 3.2 V6 24v?
Alfa 155, 145/146 2.0 Cloverleaf, 75 3.0?
Renault Megane RS275?
Clio 2.0 Williams or Clio Trophy 2.0? Renault 5 1.4 GT Turbo?
Opel Calibra 2.0 Turbo/ V6 & DTM? (Astra/Vectra DTM)?
Peugeot 306 Maxi, 2.0 6M? 205 1.9Gti?
Mercedes E190 2.5 Evo II? Mercedes C-Klasse DTM 95', CLK DTM 00'?
Nissan 270R, Nismo Z, R33, R34 Z-Tune?
Honda Civic Coupè or Hachback 1.6 V-Tec 96'?
Mitsubishi FTO GP Ver?
Hyundai i20/i30N?

... No ok... we have to drive the ******* Key Car or the SRT Tomahawk for going on the moon. They continue to insert the cars we wan't request or desired.
And then there are cars without a criterion, it is not possible to recreate a race with cars participating in the same championship in real life, because they may also appear to be from the same category but they are from different years.
Embarassing.
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Yeah nobody requested a Jaguar XJ220, Porsche 911 2.7 RS, Alfa Romeo Giulia (both), Bugatti Chiron, Chevrolet Corvette C8, Suzuki Escudo, Nissan Skyline Supersilouhette, Ford RS500 Cosworth, BMW M2, Audi RS5 DTM, Citroën DS21, Porsche 959, McLaren MP 4/4, Porsche 918 Spyder.
 
evldave333
I though the same initially but the pacing is actually about right, there is nothing more hollow than a full collection. Its an illusion that you need to collect all the cars many VGT's and vintage / premium cars are meh. Having earned 400+ cars once you go through the drive / review phase I sold most and just have 130 keepers, and ended up with a huge surplus of credits. The main gripe with economy is having to earn in a constricted way on just a few courses. Certainly with the long view now its not as daunting a grind as it initially seemed as a lot of the fruit on the tree is sour lol. On the back end the game is much better with an established garage of customised faves and only doing custom races without even considering if you get credits or not. Its a shame there is not a test drive for each car before you buy it, restricted to Route x perhaps ( I suspect this would be rejected out of hand by the fiend who wants us to buy MTX ).
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Why I say I don’t mind acquiring the cars to some extent is PC2 if I remember correctly you could grab whatever car you wanted online, and that took a little fun out of it. It’s rewarding to do some races and buy some cars. It’s not rewarding to do some races, buy some cars and see the cars you really want and realize it’s going to take a lot of grinding and racing the same races over and over and over.

In my opinion the biggest flaw of GT7 is it doesn’t draw me into single player besides NEEDING to earn money. I don’t like the AI(it’s pretty bad and lifeless), I despise the chase the rabbit style races, limited events as in I have some cars I literally can’t use and I just find it boring overall. I don’t have all the cars but I already have cars I don’t drive which is fine I can sell them but at $15,000 average that ain’t going to gain me many credits.

I guess for myself, having to earn cars isn’t what’s kept me playing the game at all. Racing with others has kept me playing the game, physics updates, you name it, new cars new track. New menu races or whatever they’re called are neat but they don’t take long. New tracks is really where it’s at.

One thing that I think would be cool would be a multiplayer championship, if I could load up with a friend and we race the AI (even if its chase the rabbit) that could be cool. That would get me playing single player or I guess two player. Sometimes we race single player at the same time, same race just to try to feel like we aren’t playing the game alone. Or they could just add AI into online multiplayer.
 
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Techlet
Duplicates are understandable if the game already has 1000 other cars like GT4 but we're not even close to that.

Is there really no better car to add than another R32?
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GT4 has around 730 cars, and around 30% of them are duplicates (depending on your definition of what a duplicate is). So the number of “other cars” in GT4 is around 500.

GT7 has 468 cars, and around 10% of them are duplicates (again depending on how you choose to define it). That leaves around 420 “other cars” in GT7.

That’s pretty close for being not even close.
 
eran0004
GT4 has around 730 cars, and around 30% of them are duplicates (depending on your definition of what a duplicate is). So the number of “other cars” in GT4 is around 500.

GT7 has 468 cars, and around 10% of them are duplicates (again depending on how you choose to define it). That leaves around 420 “other cars” in GT7.

That’s pretty close for being not even close.
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I meant GT6.

The industry as a whole has also grown since then. There's a lot more enthusiast cars that people have come to desire in the last 10 years that's not another R32. Especially when the small visual differences between the models could easily have been custom parts in GT Auto and, similarly, the Tuning Shop exists to make up for any differences in performance.
 
MIE1992
I'm highly curious about that R32. I bet it's some sort of Nismo model, like we've seen in previous games. But I'm especially happy we're getting more Alfa Romeo models, as they have a history that goes back over a century. We probably wouldn't have Ferrari (and by extension, Lamborghini nor Pagani) if we didn't have Alfa Romeo.

Personally, I still think we need a lot more Alfa Romeo models, like the Tipo 33 Stradale, the original TZ, the return of the TZ3 among others, and the SE 048 SP for a potential Gr.1 car. But I digress - I'll take almost any model at this point. Even the Stelvio Quadrifoglio.

EDIT: The SEMA winner is also neat, but if we can't see the return of the older SEMA winners, then I'd really like to see more tuners in general, such as SARD, Mine's, HKS, and/or Tommykaira.
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JustMac
These updates are a bit bittersweet where a lot of us players are really just playing Online, where Daily Race A is generally a single make, and B/C are generally Gr.4 or Gr.3.

So to that end, I think adding the Calsonic R32 as a Gr.4 would have made more sense. That would be very usable, much like the trusty Silvia Touring Car at the minute.

PD really ought to make another daily race with a quirkier setup (tuning and a huge car array?), I'm sure they could come up with a way of letting these cool road cars into the online offering.

The alternatives are lobbies, which are lacking and hard to find and solo play... which until Sophy comes out is also kinda rubbiso
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hawkeyez
Why I say I don’t mind acquiring the cars to some extent is PC2 if I remember correctly you could grab whatever car you wanted online, and that took a little fun out of it. It’s rewarding to do some races and buy some cars. It’s not rewarding to do some races, buy some cars and see the cars you really want and realize it’s going to take a lot of grinding and racing the same races over and over and over.

In my opinion the biggest flaw of GT7 is it doesn’t draw me into single player besides NEEDING to earn money. I don’t like the AI(it’s pretty bad and lifeless), I despise the chase the rabbit style races, limited events as in I have some cars I literally can’t use and I just find it boring overall. I don’t have all the cars but I already have cars I don’t drive which is fine I can sell them but at $15,000 average that ain’t going to gain me many credits.

I guess for myself, having to earn cars isn’t what’s kept me playing the game at all. Racing with others has kept me playing the game, physics updates, you name it, new cars new track. New menu races or whatever they’re called are neat but they don’t take long. New tracks is really where it’s at.

One thing that I think would be cool would be a multiplayer championship, if I could load up with a friend and we race the AI (even if its chase the rabbit) that could be cool. That would get me playing single player or I guess two player. Sometimes we race single player at the same time, same race just to try to feel like we aren’t playing the game alone. Or they could just add AI into online multiplayer.
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Techlet
The industry as a whole has also grown since then. There's a lot more enthusiast cars that people have come to desire in the last 10 years that's not another R32. Especially when the small visual differences between the models could easily have been custom parts in GT Auto and, similarly, the Tuning Shop exists to make up for any differences in performance.
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If PD made the variants something akin to a tuner model of each, the backlash wouldn't be so bad. But then again.....

We already have an MR2 GTS, if they dropped a Tom's variant, or a TRD 2000GT, we'll probably still have the "NOT ANOTHER insert car here"
 
Techlet
I meant GT6.

The industry as a whole has also grown since then. There's a lot more enthusiast cars that people have come to desire in the last 10 years that's not another R32. Especially when the small visual differences between the models could easily have been custom parts in GT Auto and, similarly, the Tuning Shop exists to make up for any differences in performance.
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Let's put it this way, to reinforce your point. The Nismo that we will seemingly get, can be replicated with the tuning options available in the game and the existing R32, if not to 100%, very close to that. At that point, there are cars that should be prioritised.

But, they love to buff the car count with these sort of duplications. It happened with both Clio RS's, both EK Civic Type R's, both Integras, both Supras, and so on. Most of these cars, if they really want them to be in the game, shouldn't count as unique cars, but as variants of one single car (which the player should be able to choose which version he/she buys).

With this last point, they would be able to add many more variants to the game, that wouldn't count for the car list nor would take away resources from the modeling team. Let's say, you could go to the Mazda Dealership, and buy a Mazda Miata and choose any of the factory engines and/or transmissions it can get, and do the same with the Mustang GT (V8 or I4) and so on. In a way, "official" engine swaps, as you get the original car that they modeled, and you can buy it with a different engine.

But, the only way they would do this, is if it was to boost the car count.

wagnerFAM98
Just imagine if this was the R32. This is how you add a duplicate without even being a duplicate.

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That would've been great.
 
Famine
You know that Sung Kang's 240Z is only in GT because it also won a GT Award at SEMA, right?
www.gtplanet.net

Sung Kang's Datsun 240Z Wins 2015 GT Awards

Here it is: the 2015 Gran Turismo Awards Best-in-Show Winner is coming to a Gran Turismo game on the PlayStation 4.
www.gtplanet.net www.gtplanet.net

Again, not seeing why it's surprising that a car that would always be coming to the game because it won that award has come to the game, and that some other random car didn't.
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okay, im sorry i thought it was surprising
 
Techlet
I meant GT6.

The industry as a whole has also grown since then. There's a lot more enthusiast cars that people have come to desire in the last 10 years that's not another R32. Especially when the small visual differences between the models could easily have been custom parts in GT Auto and, similarly, the Tuning Shop exists to make up for any differences in performance.
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The history behind the car is the reason for its inclusion. It doesn't matter if the appearance can be recreated in GT Auto, or if the weight and HP can match the real car via tuning parts - the R32 Skyline GT-R Nismo is a piece of automotive history (it doesn't hurt that it happens to be on one of Kaz's favorite chassis ever).

If you don't understand why certain cars are included for historical reasons, you don't understand Gran Turismo, and never will. And that's okay - there's plenty of other games out there for you to play. For the true automotive enthusiast, we appreciate the tiny details.
 
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