Gran Turismo - Open World Freeroam? (Read OP)

[another_jakhole]

I don't know how many would use it, and neither do you, and if it turns out to be few PD have wasted years doing something that only a few people enjoy. I say years, because if you really want them to make a city and I suppose you want it to be decent size, and more or less realistic as well, that's not something PD throws together over a weekend.

Also, as I said I don't see the point. Let's say they do make a city, with traffic and stuff. What then? You drive around, then drive around some more. I'd be bored to death after 15 minutes tops.

No matter what the slogan says, Gran Turismo is a racing simulator, and driving around in a city is not what racing simulators are about in my opinion.

Let's see...what's that quote from Braveheart?

"Freedom!"

 

[Youngun]

Let's see...what's that quote from Braveheart?

"Freedom!"

You may take our lives but you'll never take...... Our FREEDOM!!!

I think......

 

[Griffith500]

I don't know how many would use it, and neither do you, and if it turns out to be few PD have wasted years doing something that only a few people enjoy. I say years, because if you really want them to make a city and I suppose you want it to be decent size, and more or less realistic as well, that's not something PD throws together over a weekend.

Also, as I said I don't see the point. Let's say they do make a city, with traffic and stuff. What then? You drive around, then drive around some more. I'd be bored to death after 15 minutes tops.

No matter what the slogan says, Gran Turismo is a racing simulator, and driving around in a city is not what racing simulators are about in my opinion.

I don't think that will happen, and it's not really what I want, either. Like I said, stop thinking in terms of other games and look at what is already in GT5. Gran Turismo has always had an open structure, more or less, so adding actual "open" environments isn't that big a deal.

Plus, GT isn't much of a racing simulator, as all the sim elitists like to point out, and it probably never really will be (although online is fun.) I wonder what photomode locations have to do with racing?

 

[Strittan]

I don't think that will happen, and it's not really what I want, either. Like I said, stop thinking in terms of other games and look at what is already in GT5. Gran Turismo has always had an open structure, more or less, so adding actual "open" environments isn't that big a deal.

What do you mean with open environments then? Explain.

 

[Griffith500]

What do you mean with open environments then? Explain.

My wish is an extension to the course creator / rally "modes", where interesting driving roads are procedurally generated and interconnected with different themes available as you drive. It could possibly be themed according to real world locations, so you can drive through Toscana into northern Italy, into the Alps for some mountainous fun (as seen in the GT86 concept trailer), head towards Eiger (maybe even stop off for a few laps around the circuit), pop into southern Germany, drive up to the Eifel region on the Autobahn, maybe lap the Nürburgring, head over to Belgium and the fens, pop into Spa etc. etc. Naturally there would be branches and choices of theme at each branch / junction, and distance needn't be "realistic", although you could easily make it so by your choices.

It doesn't have to be anything like NFS, GTA, TDU etc.

At the very least, open configurations on existing tracks might be nice, and that's something else we've seen in "trailers".

 

[maxpontiac]

Anyone who has spent time in Gran Turismo 4 should remember this map. It allowed you to choose from venues, tuning, etc.

Most of us here, I would imagine, have not forgotten this either.

https://www.gtplanet.net/yamauchi-on-gt5s-mechanical-damage-updates-more/

In the link above you will see that... Yamauchi wanted to implement a “free roam” gameplay mode in GT5, where players could drive around, respecting speed limits and obeying traffic laws, and even exit the car to walk around and explore the environment on foot.

Keeping all this mind, why not put the two of them together?

- Let's say you start at a New Car Dealer of your choice.
- You then drive from the dealer to GT Auto for an oil change, etc.
- After this, you drive to the Tuning Village for modifying your car.
- Whatever car you are driving opens up a Racing Hall for you to go to.
- Or perhaps you want to go to Driver Park to test out your ride.
- After you win your race, you can then drive to Your Garage to store your car. With your garage, I see the cool demo on GT5 which has the hangar with cars to walk around and get in.
- But before you do that, you decide to take to the Auction House . For this, think Barrett Jackson Auctions, which would be a cool place to meet friends and players online. You could also walk around and see other peoples cars and dare I say even bid on them.

Yes, it's very TDU, but in my opinion it works really well.

 

[Ranman20]

Anyone who has spent time in Gran Turismo 4 should remember this map. It allowed you to choose from venues, tuning, etc.

Most of us here, I would imagine, have not forgotten this either.

https://www.gtplanet.net/yamauchi-on-gt5s-mechanical-damage-updates-more/

In the link above you will see that... Yamauchi wanted to implement a “free roam” gameplay mode in GT5, where players could drive around, respecting speed limits and obeying traffic laws, and even exit the car to walk around and explore the environment on foot.

Keeping all this mind, why not put the two of them together?

- Let's say you start at a New Car Dealer of your choice.
- You then drive from the dealer to GT Auto for an oil change, etc.
- After this, you drive to the Tuning Village for modifying your car.
- Whatever car you are driving opens up a Racing Hall for you to go to.
- Or perhaps you want to go to Driver Park to test out your ride.
- After you win your race, you can then drive to Your Garage to store your car. With your garage, I see the cool demo on GT5 which has the hangar with cars to walk around and get in.
- But before you do that, you decide to take to the Auction House . For this, think Barrett Jackson Auctions, which would be a cool place to meet friends and players online. You could also walk around and see other peoples cars and dare I say even bid on them.

Yes, it's very TDU, but in my opinion it works really well.

I respect your opinion.. But this sounds worse than loading screen/times. But I respect your thought.

 

[Strittan]

My wish is an extension to the course creator / rally "modes", where interesting driving roads are procedurally generated and interconnected with different themes available as you drive. It could possibly be themed according to real world locations, so you can drive through Toscana into northern Italy, into the Alps for some mountainous fun (as seen in the GT86 concept trailer), head towards Eiger (maybe even stop off for a few laps around the circuit), pop into southern Germany, drive up to the Eifel region on the Autobahn, maybe lap the Nürburgring, head over to Belgium and the fens, pop into Spa etc. etc. Naturally there would be branches and choices of theme at each branch / junction, and distance needn't be "realistic", although you could easily make it so by your choices.

It doesn't have to be anything like NFS, GTA, TDU etc.

At the very least, open configurations on existing tracks might be nice, and that's something else we've seen in "trailers".

That makes a lot more sense actually. I see many people in here talking about cities though, which is why I was going on about that.

 

[Griffith500]

That makes a lot more sense actually. I see many people in here talking about cities though, which is why I was going on about that.

I think a lot of people would still find it dull, but I'm not the most imaginative person in the world, anyway, so there's probably a more engaging way to do it.

It also annoys me that people can only think of cities - Forza Horizon and TDU aren't just cities. What's worse is that the original comment made by Kaz didn't even mention a city, either.
Perhaps the layout of SSR7, back when you could escape its walls, made a lot of people think that it specifically was part of this abandoned "open" plan Kaz was talking about - hence all the "Special Stage City" discussions. I'd rather such a city were just another course-creator theme (integrated in the way I described above), if possible.

 

[BongRipz]

Anyone who has spent time in Gran Turismo 4 should remember this map. It allowed you to choose from venues, tuning, etc.



Most of us here, I would imagine, have not forgotten this either.

https://www.gtplanet.net/yamauchi-on-gt5s-mechanical-damage-updates-more/

In the link above you will see that... Yamauchi wanted to implement a “free roam” gameplay mode in GT5, where players could drive around, respecting speed limits and obeying traffic laws, and even exit the car to walk around and explore the environment on foot.

Keeping all this mind, why not put the two of them together?

- Let's say you start at a New Car Dealer of your choice.
- You then drive from the dealer to GT Auto for an oil change, etc.
- After this, you drive to the Tuning Village for modifying your car.
- Whatever car you are driving opens up a Racing Hall for you to go to.
- Or perhaps you want to go to Driver Park to test out your ride.
- After you win your race, you can then drive to Your Garage to store your car. With your garage, I see the cool demo on GT5 which has the hangar with cars to walk around and get in.
- But before you do that, you decide to take to the Auction House . For this, think Barrett Jackson Auctions, which would be a cool place to meet friends and players online. You could also walk around and see other peoples cars and dare I say even bid on them.

Yes, it's very TDU, but in my opinion it works really well.

Would be amazing if they did that, made it optional so if you were in a rush you could skip to where you wanted to go, and allowed joyriding with some nice scenery. This could be integrated into photo mode as well allowing you to explore the environment with a camera in hand and take pictures of the car in different places or even whats going on in the city. I used to love to do that in GTA San Andreas.

 

[Stumps_GTI]

Anyone who has spent time in Gran Turismo 4 should remember this map. It allowed you to choose from venues, tuning, etc.

Most of us here, I would imagine, have not forgotten this either.

https://www.gtplanet.net/yamauchi-on-gt5s-mechanical-damage-updates-more/

In the link above you will see that... Yamauchi wanted to implement a “free roam” gameplay mode in GT5, where players could drive around, respecting speed limits and obeying traffic laws, and even exit the car to walk around and explore the environment on foot.

Keeping all this mind, why not put the two of them together?

- Let's say you start at a New Car Dealer of your choice.
- You then drive from the dealer to GT Auto for an oil change, etc.
- After this, you drive to the Tuning Village for modifying your car.
- Whatever car you are driving opens up a Racing Hall for you to go to.
- Or perhaps you want to go to Driver Park to test out your ride.
- After you win your race, you can then drive to Your Garage to store your car. With your garage, I see the cool demo on GT5 which has the hangar with cars to walk around and get in.
- But before you do that, you decide to take to the Auction House . For this, think Barrett Jackson Auctions, which would be a cool place to meet friends and players online. You could also walk around and see other peoples cars and dare I say even bid on them.

Yes, it's very TDU, but in my opinion it works really well.

I absolutely LOVE this idea.
They could even base their/our Home map off a real region. Like a screenshot from Google maps.
Have it "country based" depending on your country of origin/playing base.
Then cruise around the destinations using real roads that we are familiar with. 👍

 

[Niandra]

I wouldn't mind... but for some reason, the term "freeroam" just doesn't flow well in my head when I think of a quintessential Gran Turismo title. I can see them integrating some kind of freeroam feature in photo mode moving forward, but honestly I think adding more city courses and real circuits should be in their priority list. I like the idea of freeroam. Yes, it gives you more freedom, but that's not really I want. I want more variety: more cars to drive, more tracks to choose, more customizations for cars, and more events to compete. At the end of the day, GT5 is a racing simulator to me.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Some awful ideas in this thread. Bloated and useless menu features are the last thing that GT needs right now.

Even with the horrific menu loading times in GT5, it is still an improvement on GT4, where it takes a discouragingly long amount of time to do something like tuning a car and then finding a suitable race event. Need For Speed games use the free roam for tuning/safehouses/events, and the novelty wears off extremely quickly.

From an old thread, a menu design like this is compact while still elegant.

 

[Griffith500]

I don't think the traditional menu should be removed or replaced at all, and I'm fairly certain that most people think that way, so I'm not sure why you think that's what we're asking for.

Having a standard menu that you can access at all times might be nice, though, rather than this arbitrary limitation of only being able to do certain things at certain times and locations within the game's structure. Having the game boot straight to the location you last were with the last car you used and presenting the menu as an overlay would be great.

But this thread isn't about menus, it's about more open environments to drive in.

 

[ShiftingGears]

I don't think the traditional menu should be removed or replaced at all, and I'm fairly certain that most people think that way, so I'm not sure why you think that's what we're asking for.

I have my doubts about some posts in this thread.

Having a standard menu that you can access at all times might be nice, though, rather than this arbitrary limitation of only being able to do certain things at certain times and locations within the game's structure.

Might? It is essential. If free roam was implemented it mustn't encroach on the efficiency of the front menu at all.

Having the game boot straight to the location you last were with the last car you used and presenting the menu as an overlay would be great.

I feel that some here would object to a seeming continuity error by changing vehicles at any given location on the free roam map caused by a traditional front menu, considering the absurd lengths that some people here want PD to go to for "realism".

But this thread isn't about menus, it's about more open environments to drive in.

Free roam as suggested by most in this thread is essentially acting as an open world menu.

 

[Griffith500]

I have my doubts about some posts in this thread.

As do I; which is why I said what I said! Extrapolation is dangerous, by the way.

Might? It is essential. If free roam was implemented it mustn't encroach on the efficiency of the front menu at all.

My use of "might" was understatement employed as a form of sarcasm. Therefore, we agree.

I feel that some here would object to a seeming continuity error by changing vehicles at any given location on the free roam map caused by a traditional front menu, considering the absurd lengths that some people here want PD to go to for "realism".

I'm sure you could just comment with similar disdain and all will be well for you.

Free roam as suggested by most in this thread is essentially acting as an open world menu.

So why not contribute "better" ideas of open gameplay that don't rely on that constrained viewpoint instead of only responding in the negative to the stuff that offends you? Sure, some people might be demonstrating ignorance in their ideas of what "free roam" should be, but to reply in that unhelpful and dismissive manner is infinitely worse.

 

[ZedMan1996]

We need the Wangan!

 

[ae86fanatic]

It'd be interesting. I voted yes, but they still need to fix many of the issues GT5 has right now. When all that is taken care of, then you can add some useless features.

 

[cj10]

The free roam must be online

 

[another_jakhole]

It'd be interesting. I voted yes, but they still need to fix many of the issues GT5 has right now. When all that is taken care of, then you can add some useless features.

The free roam must be online

👍
Yuuuup.


http://andriasang.com/con22g/yamauchi_china_joy/

On the possibility of a PlayStation Vita version of Gran Turismo, Yamauchi said, "If we were to make it, we'd like to make use of the ability to play anywhere and the ability to use 3G at any time."

If Kaz said this about a possible GT Vita, then what would/should we think his idea for an open-world "feature" would be?

 

[Jump_Ace]

Negative.

Worst. Idea. Ever. Free roam accomplishes nothing but slowing the game down and will only add to the dev process that is already far too long. With the introduction of SRF, it's already acradey enough, no sense in blurring the line between what GT is now and Need For Speed/Forza Horizon. No thanks


Jerome

 

[another_jakhole]

PD/Kaz holds off from putting features into the game for the lack of value or quality it holds. (And you're being selfish!)
Please no one bring up NASCAR and Karting. Or anything that GT5 lacks. We all know that it didn't have as much content as GT4. It'll only further exemplify that PD needed more time to add more content.

They have experience with Day/Night cycles. That's one step closer in creating an open-world feature that's useless to some but useful for the Great Majority.

Free roam accomplishes nothing

The many online lobbies that aren't about racing and are about "cruising" would say/prove? otherwise. Look at the bigger picture?!

 

[ZedMan1996]

Negative.

Worst. Idea. Ever. Free roam accomplishes nothing but slowing the game down and will only add to the dev process that is already far too long. With the introduction of SRF, it's already acradey enough, no sense in blurring the line between what GT is now and Need For Speed/Forza Horizon. No thanks


Jerome

Not if it has objectives. Racing at Wangan in Japan usually seeing tother racers there is kinda common.

This would be great for online! Pull up behind a racer, then wait for him/her to confirm the race and then both of you are flying off dodging traffic with a hp bar that goes down when you are behind or when you hit something. How does that sound now?

 

[another_jakhole]

Get the F**za outta here! lol jk

 

[Jump_Ace]

Not if it has objectives. Racing at Wangan in Japan usually seeing tother racers there is kinda common.

This would be great for online! Pull up behind a racer, then wait for him/her to confirm the race and then both of you are flying off dodging traffic with a hp bar that goes down when you are behind or when you hit something. How does that sound now?

Even worse. GT is NOT Need For Speed and I hope it never comes to that. Dodging traffic is about luck, not about the principles of racing.


Jerome

 

[Samus]

Even worse. GT is NOT Need For Speed and I hope it never comes to that. Dodging traffic is about luck, not about the principles of racing.


Jerome

Ditto to that. Plus if any GT game included that sort of driving many manufacturers would be lining up to say "not with my cars you don't".

Also, "HP bars"? Really?

 

[Griffith500]

Negative.

Worst. Idea. Ever. Free roam accomplishes nothing but slowing the game down and will only add to the dev process that is already far too long. With the introduction of SRF, it's already acradey enough, no sense in blurring the line between what GT is now and Need For Speed/Forza Horizon. No thanks


Jerome

"Free roam" is not a genre description, and I would have expected a mod to actually read the thread and not just offer up the same, tired knee-jerk reaction.

Even worse. GT is NOT Need For Speed and I hope it never comes to that. Dodging traffic is about luck, not about the principles of racing.


Jerome

But I agree with this. Also, not all suggestions for a free-roam mode pertinent to GT are like that...

 

[awr117]

No free roam please. I'd play burnout if i felt like crashing into traffic at red lights.

 

[ZedMan1996]

Even worse. GT is NOT Need For Speed and I hope it never comes to that. Dodging traffic is about luck, not about the principles of racing.


Jerome

Woah wait! You can also go to the track. Freeroam could be to travel to GT Auto, car dealership, used car places and tuning companys even maybe auctions? And finally where you get most of the money and fun -the track.

Sound better?

 

[awr117]

Woah wait! You can also go to the track. Freeroam could be to travel to GT Auto, car dealership, used car places and tuning companys even maybe auctions? And finally where you get most of the money and fun -the track.

Sound better?

No, that would get old in about 1 minute.