Gran Turismo Spec IV Thread: Autumn Ring, Sugo Circuit, and More

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What if only 50% of GT7 players are able to unlock it by driving fast enough in a challenge or mission or license test? Or only 20%? Or perhaps 80%? Should those who are not fast enough never be able to get that car?? At least after we reached the cap in the GT7 collector level we should be able to buy, or you think we should never be able to buy it?
Games used to be fun because they challenged you to unlock content. I see the appeal in a sandbox, but having to overcome challenges to achieve things is more fun to me. People will differ on this, and that's fine. What doesn't work is a half and half approach. Either go for a sandbox or go for a journey.
 
Not sure if this has been posted before, but the Youtuber Mario Soler, known for being somewhat accurate in his predictions, is saying we might get the BMW M4 GT3 for Spec IV.

(Video is in Spanish)

 
Does anyone here speak fluent Japanese and can say what exactly Kaz said in Japanese for the "These are the two course layouts available" line?

We're all reading into it as two layouts for Autumn Ring, but I'm wondering if it's a translation thing where he's wrapping up the track section of the video, and the "two" is actually meaning Autumn Ring and Sugo.
 
Games used to be fun because they challenged you to unlock content. I see the appeal in a sandbox, but having to overcome challenges to achieve things is more fun to me. People will differ on this, and that's fine. What doesn't work is a half and half approach. Either go for a sandbox or go for a journey.
I'd be ok if it were GT1-GT2 levels of unlocking content. Putting myself through hours of not-very-interesting or difficult racing is not my idea of a fun game
 
Everything scannable in Suzuka West was there when they scanned Suzuka

Of course it was - it’s a real circuit. It doesn’t mean they scanned it. They scanned it for GT4, but if they didn't scan it when they did the last Suzuka updated they won’t include it.

I mean hell… they’re not including the new logo in the public build of the game so 🤷
 
Youtuber Mario Soler, known for being somewhat accurate in his predictions
No.

In essence they have a direct relationship with some GTWS live event attendees, and what they usually post is not "predictions" but info relayed from them at events.

There hasn't been another live event since... well, R1 but there were people at R2 as well, so there's no new info for them to acquire this way. And even then they didn’t spot the obvious Civic AH JTCC on the smegging monitors that many on here spotted in a blurry reflection of it in the official video...

This video is just guesses, though I'd say a guess of some more-recent Super GT cars to go with Sugo seems safe (and that would also mean some of the six known cars are not in the October Pt1). However, I also have no info on this, so don't take that as a confirmation.

Generally I don't hint or say if I do have more info on anything - because it comes across braggy and crass, puts sources at risk, generates unnecessary hype (and disappointment; no hype ever meets expectations), and experience says nothing is confirmed until it is in our hands and even then it can still be taken away - but on the basis of managing expectations alone: if they do have more specific information on Spec IV's cars then I'm surprised by what's not mentioned more than what is.

Don't hype that clause up beyond what it is - and who's to say any information I might have is any more accurate anyway? - or prod any further than that: while I usually won't even hint, I definitely won't be more specific than that.
 
Not sure if this has been posted before, but the Youtuber Mario Soler, known for being somewhat accurate in his predictions, is saying we might get the BMW M4 GT3 for Spec IV.

(Video is in Spanish)


Geeteetree ziss, geeteetree zatt...
I have my fingers crossed so when a new Aston Martin race car eventually comes, it will be the Vantage GTE '18 and not the Vantage GT3 '19. Just to see some people's hackles rise. lol

And when it comes to Super GT, I wonder if they consider the last Gen of real DTM cars as such. We already have the Audi R5 Turbo but it could very well be a simple happy coincidence. So let's see whether they will consolidate the existing field before moving on to the current cars.
 
Does anyone here speak fluent Japanese and can say what exactly Kaz said in Japanese for the "These are the two course layouts available" line?

We're all reading into it as two layouts for Autumn Ring, but I'm wondering if it's a translation thing where he's wrapping up the track section of the video, and the "two" is actually meaning Autumn Ring and Sugo.
I assumed that sentence meant "SUGO and Autumn Ring", not 2 layouts of Autumn Ring.
However, the official website suggests differently:
 
So been having a think on how these cars are going to be handed out, little prediction time:

Update 1 with Sugo.

  • Nissan Z Super GT '24
  • Toyota Supra Super GT '24
  • Honda Civic Super GT '24

Why 2024? Because these cars seem to be going into gaps of 8 years a piece, and the modelling time might well fit in. I think this update will be focused on racing cars so the next three will be:

  • Mazda RX-Vision GT3 Evo
  • BMW M4 GT3 '22
  • Honda Civic Motul

Three Gr2s, two Gr3s and one legendary racing car for Daily Race A.

Update 2 with Autumn Ring.

This to me will be a road car orientated release, so will contain all the others ie.

  • BMW M5
  • Citroen 2cv
  • Honda Stepwagon
  • Xiaomi VGT

Now then, considering racing cars now get a road car equivalent, I suspect we will see:

- BMW M4 '22 (the year for this and the GT3 is arbitrary)

Leaves one space. Now looking at the above, it feels like we need a headliner, and this is a wildcard really but:

- Aston Martin Valhalla

The licence is still being used with the Valkyrie and Vantage, it just feels right. That could be completely wrong on all fronts, for a start it's BMW centric but hey ho.
 
So been having a think on how these cars are going to be handed out, little prediction time:

Update 1 with Sugo.

  • Nissan Z Super GT '24
  • Toyota Supra Super GT '24
  • Honda Civic Super GT '24

Why 2024? Because these cars seem to be going into gaps of 8 years a piece, and the modelling time might well fit in. I think this update will be focused on racing cars so the next three will be:

  • Mazda RX-Vision GT3 Evo
  • BMW M4 GT3 '22
  • Honda Civic Motul

Three Gr2s, two Gr3s and one legendary racing car for Daily Race A.

Update 2 with Autumn Ring.

This to me will be a road car orientated release, so will contain all the others ie.

  • BMW M5
  • Citroen 2cv
  • Honda Stepwagon
  • Xiaomi VGT

Now then, considering racing cars now get a road car equivalent, I suspect we will see:

- BMW M4 '22 (the year for this and the GT3 is arbitrary)

Leaves one space. Now looking at the above, it feels like we need a headliner, and this is a wildcard really but:

- Aston Martin Valhalla

The licence is still being used with the Valkyrie and Vantage, it just feels right. That could be completely wrong on all fronts, for a start it's BMW centric but hey ho.

Where do we have to sign? 😁
 
Also my wish is they fix the new physics engine soon cause I hate the new one.
Don't see that happening, and yeah, it takes some getting used to before you get a good feel for it. I don't really play much Sport mode, but I'm liking the new physics so far, especially when I've set faster laps with all the Hypercars (except I was slower with the Porsche 963) compared to old physics.
 
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It surprises me that the Nissan R390 GT1 isn't mentioned much, given that it’s a very realistic possibility. It is a highly iconic car in Gran Turismo history, and it seems the "Stealth" cars given away during live events are the ones that had black liveries in Gran Turismo 4; alongside the Toyota GT-One and Mazda 787B, there were also the Nissan RCP92 and the Nissan R390. So, if they give away the Nissan RCP92 during the next live event, it would make perfect sense for the Nissan R390 to be added in Spec IV.
 
Don't mention it much but believe me it's on the wishlist 😁
 
It surprises me that the Nissan R390 GT1 isn't mentioned much
'98 race car from previous games: 72 votes.


'98 race car not from previous games: 33 votes.


'97 short tail race car from GT2: 45 votes.



'97 short tail road car from GT2: 90 votes.


And finally, '98 road car from previous games: 124 votes.

 
'98 race car from previous games: 72 votes.


'98 race car not from previous games: 33 votes.


'97 short tail race car from GT2: 45 votes.



'97 short tail road car from GT2: 90 votes.


And finally, '98 road car from previous games: 124 votes.


I meant that the Nissan R390 wasn't mentioned much in this discussion as a possible addition to Spec IV.
 
The R390 is the car that is my personal lead suspicion for the Espace F1 style "pop the live audience" spot that I was being coy about upthread.

My logic: The Viewers Campaign rewards this year are black stealth models, and the first two have had two of the four GT4 black cars as one of the two. It's shaky logic at this point because the two they've done so far are the two GTWS partners, so it could just be that, but if the Singapore rewards are announced and the R92CP is one of the two then I'd like to think they know what they're doing making that reference and would complete the set.
 
Suzuka West hasn’t been used for any racing events since 2019 for motorcycles due to the pitlane facilities not being up to standard, there have been a few track day type events but nothing in terms of racing cars events for a very long time.

It’s just not a real world layout anymore and most likely no license for it, so I can’t see why Autumn Mini would be excluded as it’s not a real world location and doesn’t need a license outside of PD for.
When has that ever stopped them before? The short layouts at Willow Springs aren't even really track day layouts. Le Mans and Monza sans chicane are pure fantasy layouts. I highly doubt any professional events are using Autopolis short. Need I continue?
 
Need I continue?
Sure why no Bugatti circuit then?

The answer is licensing, if it exists and an agreement is made then it’ll feature.

If no license exists, no feature.
 
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I can’t see why Autumn Mini would be excluded as it’s not a real world location and doesn’t need a license outside of PD for.
At present all we know is that Kaz stated "both" the classic and new longer layouts of Autumn Ring will be included. That suggest we're getting two layouts, one of which is new to the series and one is the original circuit layout.
 
Also, as someone who never really tried Shuffle Races the first time around, I'm excited to try them this time! Just a real field full of whatever, as far as cars go. I wonder if there could be motifs in some cases, such as for various SUVs/crossovers/pickups/minivans? Speaking of which, could the Honda Stepwgn be a worthy rival to the Toyota Alphard?
 
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These cars are free, and getting unique cars—like the ones in the Power Pack—is really rewarding.

It's still way more interesting than a café mode where you're just chasing rabbits while half-asleep.

And anyway, it's not like we're talking about beating a Dark Souls boss or anything.
I strongly agree with your comment about the slightly awful boring cafe menu book, & if I remember correctly, I also told that to Kaz on X directly that while for some new players, part of the cafe mode [the first menu books] it might be a decent way to learn GT7 & to easily collect some cars, but it is by itself extremely much worse than the single player campaigns in GT3&GT4&GT5, while also GT7 has many fun one make races & a few good missions & etc. it severely lacks good single player campaign, & that was before the Power Pack..!!
 
Sure why no Bugatti circuit then?

The answer is licensing, if it exists and an agreement is made then it’ll feature.

If no license exists, no feature.
Scanning and modelling the ~2 miles of Bugatti Circuit is a much bigger lift than the very small connector of Suzuka West, for a circuit that's almost universally considered a bit boring. That's not a comparable case at all.
 
Games used to be fun because they challenged you to unlock content. I see the appeal in a sandbox, but having to overcome challenges to achieve things is more fun to me. People will differ on this, and that's fine. What doesn't work is a half and half approach. Either go for a sandbox or go for a journey.
I agree kinda, but what if game completion [percent wise] were enough to unlock cars to buy them or winning them [by game completion percent] if it was like "like the wind" challenge in GT3 was too difficult [it wasn't] we would win the Mazda 787B when we reached 75% game completion!

Edit: A few years ago I tried to get gold in all of the GT4 license tests, I think i got one or two silver prize cars after 10-15-20[?] hours of mental torture of not improving my skills or my times, [with controller] but more than that was for me completely impossible!

And obviously I tried something similar many more years ago with GT3, albeit I don't remember how many hours, perhaps fewer hours before complete stagnation of skill improvement & better times. Luckily we could win [by racing the 3 difficulty levels] or buy all the cars in GT3 somehow, but in GT4 the only way for me to get all the cars in the game was to download a 100% completion save {and buy otherwise unavailable cars from the save game which also is fun progression because we must win credits to buy the cars} or an all gold license test save game but nothing more than that, the last option is mighty good fun for me...!!!
 
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So been having a think on how these cars are going to be handed out, little prediction time:

Update 1 with Sugo.

  • Nissan Z Super GT '24
  • Toyota Supra Super GT '24
  • Honda Civic Super GT '24

Why 2024? Because these cars seem to be going into gaps of 8 years a piece, and the modelling time might well fit in. I think this update will be focused on racing cars so the next three will be:

  • Mazda RX-Vision GT3 Evo
  • BMW M4 GT3 '22
  • Honda Civic Motul

Three Gr2s, two Gr3s and one legendary racing car for Daily Race A.

Update 2 with Autumn Ring.

This to me will be a road car orientated release, so will contain all the others ie.

  • BMW M5
  • Citroen 2cv
  • Honda Stepwagon
  • Xiaomi VGT

Now then, considering racing cars now get a road car equivalent, I suspect we will see:

- BMW M4 '22 (the year for this and the GT3 is arbitrary)

Leaves one space. Now looking at the above, it feels like we need a headliner, and this is a wildcard really but:

- Aston Martin Valhalla

The licence is still being used with the Valkyrie and Vantage, it just feels right. That could be completely wrong on all fronts, for a start it's BMW centric but hey ho.
I think it's more likely that all of the six teased cars will all come as a mix in the first update, and another mixed lot for second. I doubt we will get themed updates.

Looking forward to what's coming next :D
 
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