Gran Turismo World Series (2025 Manufacturers Cup | April 2 - April 19)

[SPDN Stefano]

I have no problems with the race settings for Interlagos. Having a long qualifying and no tyre strategy favors the fastest driver in the lobby, which is probably how racing should be. When you can only do one fast lap in qualifying there is an element of randomness to the grid because of people making mistakes. So now there is a mix of short and long qualifyings which is good imo.

 

[dazdilly75]

I have no problems with the race settings for Interlagos. Having a long qualifying and no tyre strategy favors the fastest driver in the lobby, which is probably how racing should be. When you can only do one fast lap in qualifying there is an element of randomness to the grid because of people making mistakes. So now there is a mix of short and long qualifyings which is good imo.

Quali doesn't determine race pace. You can have someone set one good lap, but that doesn't always translate to race pace. Wouldn't you rather have more race time as opposed to an extended quali period?

I think long qualy sessions is a HUGE mistake. I foresee a scenario where unscrupulous trolls set a good time early and then spend the remaining 15 minutes interfering with everyone else’s laps to maintain their standing. You can’t do that easily if you’re only on track for 5 minutes and what’s actually the penalty for it in a qualification session?

I actually didn't think about this scenario, but it's a very good point.

 

[Moose78]

We need to talk about interlagos... I think 18 minutes of qualification could have been better used to implement a multi tyre strategy, as opposed to just time trialing for almost half the entire session!

I agree. I don't mind these sprint races, but if I want that sort of thing, I can go do a daily race. The 30-lapper we had at Interlagos a few seasons ago was something I'll remember. This, probably not so much.

I'm not a fan of the longer qualifying. I think you're right. The ability to get one great lap is not the same as the ability to maintain a consistent race pace. Mostly, though, it just seems like a dull way to spend time we could be using for real racing.

I think long qualy sessions is a HUGE mistake. I foresee a scenario where unscrupulous trolls set a good time early and then spend the remaining 15 minutes interfering with everyone else’s laps to maintain their standing.

Is this a real concern in your lobbies? Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've never come across any trolls in my lobbies. Aggressive and bad drivers, sure, but nobody being intentionally nasty. I'm well aware that they exist, but it isn't something I've experienced enough to worry about it.

We've had the longer qualifying sessions for those RA-72 races -- Watkins Glen and Eiger Nordwand. I missed the first, but when I did the second, I had plenty of space in qualifying. No trolls. Plenty of time to exit out the pits and start over again if I got caught up in traffic.

 

[newmedia_dev]

If they are going to do this massive QT for interlagos why not throw in the joker and reverse the grid order?

 

[stpatty]

Back in GT Sport there was a Nations race at Willow Springs in the Civic Touring Car. 10 minute qualifying, something like a 7 lap race which only lasted about 9 minutes. I don't think that was the only time something like that has happened either.

It's a bit ridiculous but it's something different. You get to push hard in qualifying knowing if you make a mistake you're going to get another couple of chances. Then the race is just a sprint. where hopefully nobody is out of sequence and getting pushy because their qualifying was bad.

 

[MetalApe]

If they are going to do this massive QT for interlagos why not throw in the joker and reverse the grid order?

A really nice enhancement for GT8 would be multi-race events. So we could do something like F2/F3 Sprint races with at least a partial reverse grid order.

I remember years back a game I played had a format based on Aussie V8's, where they had three races. The first based on qualifying, the second reverse of the race order, the third the aggregate of race 1 and 2 finishing positions.

We could have heats that merge two lobbies, the top half finishers from each lobby get put together for the A-Final, the bottoms halfs get a B-Final. Where of course the A-Final carrys more points than the B.

I'm happy to have this extended qualifying as a change, it's better than the Nord qualifying where 8 minutes is actually qualifying, 8+ minutes is a pointless outlap, then 5+ minutes of watching the clock count down even though everyone has finished their lap.

I don't imagine we need to worry about an idiot messing up everyones laps, I'm sure he'd soon get some Karma playback in the race.