gt4 tune up ideas

[frez]

i would love to see alot of new tune up apps.Including blow oof valves.Like choosing the kind of valve whether you want the shhhh sound or the prrrr sound.And the wheels to actually to have size specs like 17 inch,18 inch etc..

 

[Joecool593]

That'd be cool - the tuning in GT3 was veeeeeeeeeeeeery broad/general.

 

[Hyperglide]

Can you say BLING BLING?

Why waste all that time and effort on Blow Off valves, CAI's, Cat-backs, huge assed rim's etc.? They don't offer that much in terms of performance (especially rims they actually hinder performance). So wtf is the point? This is a GT game not NFS:U or the like.

 

[Naude]

ummm well tire size does improve handling and why not study the parts all in detail make some parts cost more than other and actually have a difference in HP gain

 

[Dave A]

Parts in GT3 do change the Bhp, you have to be more specific than that, theres loads of parts that change Bhp in real life and thoes that appear in previouse GT's change the power in the game.

 

[Jay]

Originally posted by Hyperglide
Can you say BLING BLING?

Why waste all that time and effort on Blow Off valves, CAI's, Cat-backs, huge assed rim's etc.? They don't offer that much in terms of performance (especially rims they actually hinder performance). So wtf is the point? This is a GT game not NFS:U or the like.

for example IRL i have a 4inch stainless steel mandrel bent cat back RS*R exhaust and a HKS pod filter fitted to my R33 skyline, i would like to be able to do these (or similar) type of mods in the game. instead of the lame stage 1 exhaust/filter.... yay i gain 10hp

 

[mindless_dude]

dont u think that parts in gt3 were not real,like a set of sports tire for 5000...? that would be racing tires and also a chip for 2000?

 

[Hyperglide]

Originally posted by VIPERGTSR01
for example IRL i have a 4inch stainless steel mandrel bent cat back RS*R exhaust and a HKS pod filter fitted to my R33 skyline, i would like to be able to do these (or similar) type of mods in the game. instead of the lame stage 1 exhaust/filter.... yay i gain 10hp

Good points. All that stuff gives you mediocre bonuses. Bolt on's are nice for adding sounds and looks to your cars but they don't offer much performance wise. Maybe 10-20 hp.

ummm well tire size does improve handling and why not study the parts all in detail make some parts cost more than other and actually have a difference in HP gain

Sure tire size helps, with grip and handling if they are wide. But Rim size doesn't. Also, IRL bigger tire sizes cost a lot more and eat way more gas. I just think they'd look pretty dumb in a GT game. 17" is a good medium for me I think, on most cars.

 

[Dave A]

A wider tyre can improve grip, increasing it's radius so it will go on bigger rims wont improve grip though.

 

[Flerbizky]

Originally posted by live4speed
A wider tyre can improve grip, increasing it's radius so it will go on bigger rims wont improve grip though.

Not entirely correct - By enlarging the rim, and thus lowering the tire profile, the profile of the tire will have less play (35 profile vs. mid 70s style high performance 60 profile - get the picture) which results in firmer contact with the asphalt - and thereby providing better grip...

 

[Glut]

Originally posted by Hyperglide
Good points. All that stuff gives you mediocre bonuses. Bolt on's are nice for adding sounds and looks to your cars but they don't offer much performance wise. Maybe 10-20 hp.

Depends on the car. Some cars have terribly restritive exhausts/turbos/intercoolers, etc. where bolt on replacements can provide very significant increases in performance.

Sure tire size helps, with grip and handling if they are wide. But Rim size doesn't. Also, IRL bigger tire sizes cost a lot more and eat way more gas. I just think they'd look pretty dumb in a GT game. 17" is a good medium for me I think, on most cars.

I think you should tell that to most racing teams, where wheel size is as large as possible. Check out the difference in F1 wheel sizes 20 years ago compared to today.
As long as you're fitting light weight wheels there should be no loss in performance over stock, where cost is usually more important than weight.

 

[Majarvis]

You guys aren't taking into consideration on the weight of larger rims. For a car the size of a Civic, the ideal size is 15" It's nice and light, which is what you want. The larger a rim you have, the more weight, the more unsprung weight, the more the suspension has to work, and the slower your car can react. So in theory, yes, a larger rim would provide better handling by giving you a stiffer sidewall, but it will just slow you down if the rim is too big.

 

[Majarvis]

Originally posted by Glut
I think you should tell that to most racing teams, where wheel size is as large as possible. Check out the difference in F1 wheel sizes 20 years ago compared to today.
As long as you're fitting light weight wheels there should be no loss in performance over stock, where cost is usually more important than weight.

Wheel sizes aren't as large as possible in racing series' quite the opposite actually. I'll expand on your F1 example, they use 13" forged magnesium alloy wheels, the sidewalls are quite a high-profile. If you look at most racing series, their wheel sizes are not as large as possible, they usually have a fairly high-profile tire equipped.

 

[Flerbizky]

Originally posted by Majarvis
Wheel sizes aren't as large as possible in racing series' quite the opposite actually. I'll expand on your F1 example, they use 13" forged magnesium alloy wheels, the sidewalls are quite a high-profile. If you look at most racing series, their wheel sizes are not as large as possible, they usually have a fairly high-profile tire equipped.

But an F1 car weighs in at what ?... 650kg wet ?... And the tires are how wide ?... They can afford to run high profile tirewalls where a 1200kg much slower *TCC (replace * with S or E) have to have a much lower profile as it puts much more stress on the tirewall and a higher profile would cause loss of feel due to flex....

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Speaking of weight - I'm not so sure that a 17" rim with a low profile tire is that much heavier than a 15" with a higher profile tire.. This assuming the overall diameter is the same.. Rubber is awfully heavy...
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[joe8]

In the interview with K.Y. in GAMEPRO-Mag he speaks about

TUNER´S VILLAGE and TUNING-Shops!!!

Ciao Joe

 

[ExigeEvan]

Also a larger wheel alows better top end speed while sacrificing acceleration.
I'm not very good with beamers, but doesn't one of the new ones have problems if you upgrade the tires to I think 17 inchs.
I wouldn't disagree to body kits, aslong as tehy were benficial to teh cars performance and not just for show. Also te ability to add spoilers IF NEEDED would also be of benefiet.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Originally posted by joe8
In the interview with K.Y. in GAMEPRO-Mag he speaks about

TUNER´S VILLAGE and TUNING-Shops!!!

Ciao Joe

Can you post the article for proof.

"Tuner's Village?" Uh-oh.

 

[Dave A]

It's in another thread just below.

 

[R-Spec]

i think that there should be alot more tuning options for suspension and engine internals.
like a lot more options on springs, shocks, sway bars, ect. so it's more realistic.
also dif cr pistons, dif kinds of cams, dif fuel systems and dif size injectors, ect. also deeling w/ tuning and ****, on a dyno.

 

[AP1]

If we can customize spoilers in GT4, it would affect the handling in grip.

 

[Rx7Ownz]

IF fuel is going to be a factor in GT4

Fuel Control System of some sort is a must.
Boost Controller?
More Details on NA Tuning, like cams etc. so the poor can buy parts at a time.
hmm...and this is just purely for suggestion. Nitrous Oxide? i see few race cars use them. more nitrous = more fuel use?. just a thought

O and Negative Cambers! =D

 

[Dave A]

Nitrouse is not allowed in any form of circuit racing I know of, only some classes of dragsters use it, so if nitrouse is in GT4, it has to be limited to drag racing only, the game would shift into the arcade racing type if it featured in circuit racing, because that just doesn't happen. When was the last time Shumacher switched on his NOS on the home straight at Monza, or Labonti (I think thats spelt right), switching his on as he speeds round the Charlotte oval.

 

[Rx7Ownz]

ok , my mistake.

 

[Famine]

Originally posted by live4speed
Nitrouse is not allowed in any form of circuit racing I know of, only some classes of dragsters use it, so if nitrouse is in GT4, it has to be limited to drag racing only, the game would shift into the arcade racing type if it featured in circuit racing, because that just doesn't happen. When was the last time Shumacher switched on his NOS on the home straight at Monza, or Labonti (I think thats spelt right), switching his on as he speeds round the Charlotte oval.

Formula Palmer Audi single seater circuit racing uses nitrous oxide. A maximum of 6 shots (I think) which can be used at any time, giving 30hp extra.

 

[Dave A]

Really! I never knew that, still, nitrouse is not allowed in most, but if PD put a formula Palmer Audi cup in, then why not. I say if they put a cup in not car, because it's the rules of thecup that determine if it's allowed. If the car is in, the it shouldn't have nitriouse, exept when in a cup for that car. So if you race that car in the GT All stars, it won't have nitrouse capability.

 

[Bradrifter]

If we can customize spoilers in GT4, it would affect the handling in grip.

You could alter the amount of downforce for your front and rear spoilers in GT3, should be there in GT4 as well.

 

[Mr P510]

I think it would be cool if when you choose"tune" whatever car you had currently selected would appear on a road ( 3- 6 Kms long) or so that leeds to the Recently mensioned "tuning village. This little road could be one of 20 or so random journeys(to cut out the bordom of the same road).Once in the tuning village you could drive into whatever garage you wanted depending what mods you wanted.This would add a little more depth to the tuning option.

 

[Rx7Ownz]

yea give me something more to do then just click buy and install.

 

[oscarfulz]

Originally posted by Mr P510
I think it would be cool if when you choose"tune" whatever car you had currently selected would appear on a road ( 3- 6 Kms long) or so that leeds to the Recently mensioned "tuning village. This little road could be one of 20 or so random journeys(to cut out the bordom of the same road).Once in the tuning village you could drive into whatever garage you wanted depending what mods you wanted.This would add a little more depth to the tuning option.

not only that but this is an idea of mine, what if instead of just drving around for tunning you coulc maybe drive back to your home or even better drive out to the "test track" where you could test your manuvers and turning and such, basically all that stuff EVERYTHING with tuining and testing such be on giant course... do you guys get me?

 

[R-Spec]

yea all that will be cool in gt4, hopefully sum of that will actualy be in gt4.....