Hyundai Ioniq & Kia EV Thread

[ProjectWHaT]

Kia EV5 concept

It is just a design concept and will most likely not become a production car

The Kia Concept EV5 Debuts To Preview Future SUV

The company debuted the Concept EV5 at Kia Chinese EV Day. It has a chiseled exterior and a cabin with swiveling seats.

insideevs.com

Also, the new title is misspelled, should be Ioniq with a Q

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Also, the new title is misspelled, should be Ioniq with a Q

Looks right to me.

 

[Keef]

Kia EV5 concept

It is just a design concept and will most likely not become a production car

The Kia Concept EV5 Debuts To Preview Future SUV

The company debuted the Concept EV5 at Kia Chinese EV Day. It has a chiseled exterior and a cabin with swiveling seats.

insideevs.com

Also, the new title is misspelled, should be Ioniq with a Q

Will likely not? Press X. The exterior is perfect for the American market. I bet the exterior is 95% complete here and there aren't even many concepty details that will change. Look at the aerodyanmic work especially at the sides and top of the rear end - the sharp edge to break off airflow cleanly, the downward curvature of the roof, how the rear window pinches down in width compared to the windshield, and the rear spoiler which appears to scoop air down onto the rear window. Designers do not design details like that, aerodynamicists come up with those ideas and they compromise over the course of a year or more as the design is being finalized. Traditional concept cars don't go through that level of development. It needs door handles but that is within that 5% of stuff that will change.

The body of this car is fully developed aerodynamically which I why I disagree that it's just a design concept. I suppose you're right that it might not go into production - the Chrysler Airflow was also a fully developed car that won't make it to production, but that one also was not "just" a design concept. It was a whole ass car that was scrapped. I doubt Kia will do that with this. Kia isn't an incompetent company.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Will likely not? Press X. The exterior is perfect for the American market. I bet the exterior is 95% complete here and there aren't even many concepty details that will change. Look at the aerodyanmic work especially at the sides and top of the rear end - the sharp edge to break off airflow cleanly, the downward curvature of the roof, how the rear window pinches down in width compared to the windshield, and the rear spoiler which appears to scoop air down onto the rear window. Designers do not design details like that, aerodynamicists come up with those ideas and they compromise over the course of a year or more as the design is being finalized. Traditional concept cars don't go through that level of development. It needs door handles but that is within that 5% of stuff that will change.

The body of this car is fully developed aerodynamically which I why I disagree that it's just a design concept. I suppose you're right that it might not go into production - the Chrysler Airflow was also a fully developed car that won't make it to production, but that one also was not "just" a design concept. It was a whole ass car that was scrapped. I doubt Kia will do that with this. Kia isn't an incompetent company.

You're probably right. Some other outlets said it previews a new SUV. I think I misinterpreted what that article meant by "purely a design showcase for the future SUV"


At a Hyundai event, a Hyundai designer revealed that the Ioniq 6 is based on the Stout Scarab

Hyundai Ioniq 6 Designer Says It Was Inspired By This Groundbreaking 1930s American Car - The Autopian

I’m here out in a fancy hotel in the Arizona desert, listening to the scratching of the sand weasels on the balcony doors, and thinking about something a member of the Hyundai Ioniq 6 design team told me while at dinner tonight. The Ioniq 6 is a really striking design, feeling different from...

www.theautopian.com

 

[ProjectWHaT]

The massive EV9 is going to get a sporty GT version

Kia Confirms EV9 Is Getting a High-Performance GT Model in 2025

Kia is currently developing a more powerful EV9, and we believe it'll feature the 576-hp setup from the EV6 GT.

www.caranddriver.com

Along with revealing more specs about new mid-size three-row EV9 SUV, Kia has confirmed a high-performance GT model is also on the way. The regular 2024 Kia EV9 will go on sale in the U.S. in the second half of this year, with the GT version that's currently being developed to be released in early 2025.

There's currently a EV9 GT-Line

 

[Keef]

Kia EV5 concept

It is just a design concept and will most likely not become a production car

The Kia Concept EV5 Debuts To Preview Future SUV

The company debuted the Concept EV5 at Kia Chinese EV Day. It has a chiseled exterior and a cabin with swiveling seats.

insideevs.com

Also, the new title is misspelled, should be Ioniq with a Q

The massive EV9 is going to get a sporty GT version

Kia Confirms EV9 Is Getting a High-Performance GT Model in 2025

Kia is currently developing a more powerful EV9, and we believe it'll feature the 576-hp setup from the EV6 GT.

www.caranddriver.com

There's currently a EV9 GT-Line

Wait a second...what the heck is going on here? Is Kia putting out concept SUVs faster than I can eat a bowl of frosted mini wheats? Since when the hell did the EV9 become a production car but the EV5 is just some newfangled concept? They're the same damn thing.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Wait a second...what the heck is going on here? Is Kia putting out concept SUVs faster than I can eat a bowl of frosted mini wheats? Since when the hell did the EV9 become a production car but the EV5 is just some newfangled concept? They're the same damn thing.

I think the EV5 is smaller and initially for the Chinese market. As the article states, the EV5 was revealed at Kia Chinese EV Day event in China

The Kia Concept EV5 – Stunning All-electric SUV Concept Showcases Pivotal Next Phase of Kia’s Transition to Sustainable Mobility

The Kia Concept EV5 is a prelude to Kia’s next dedicated EV model as a leading sustainable mobility solutions provider Bold, futuristic form insp... | Kia news

www.hyundaimotorgroup.com

Meanwhile, the EV9 design was officially revealed 6 days earlier while specs were announced yesterday

The Kia EV9 Revealed: Groundbreaking EV Fusing Progressive, Bold Design with Authentic SUV Character

Kia Corporation has today revealed full images of the exterior and interior design of the Kia EV9, its first three-row electric flagship SUV, which encapsulates bold styling and sophisticated elegance inside and out. The Kia EV9 represents a pivotal step forward in the company's journey towards...

www.kiamedia.com

Kia EV9 Reshapes SUV User Experience with Superior Design and Technology

Kia has today revealed full details of the Kia EV9, its first three-row seat electric flagship SUV that brings fresh thinking, design, and technology to the sector and spearheads the brand’s rapid transformation to a sustainable mobility solutions provider in the era of electrification.

www.kiamedia.com

 

[ProjectWHaT]

official teaser of the Ioniq 5 N

 

[ProjectWHaT]

 

[05XR8]

Cool stuff.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Another great video by Technology Connections.

He talks about how when using one pedal drive mode on the Ioniq 5 (and assumedly the EV6 and GV60), the brake lights do not come on until you're completely off the accelerator pedal, which is dangerous because it can be pulling 2G's of deceleration without the brake lights coming on.

When he looks into the regulations, it is actually not necessary for the brake lights to come on, because regenerative braking using one pedal drive is not considered to be "service brakes" but rather "supplemental brake system", thus the brake lights do not need to be on.

 

[Tornado]

I mean Hyundai also puts turn signals in the bottom of the bumper; and then makes them red anyway.

 

[Keef]

When he looks into the regulations, it is actually not necessary

The SAE is not very good at its job. NHTSA, yes, SAE borderline useless. They're not interested in safety standards, they're not interested in ergonomic standards, they don't consider human factors, etc etc. And when they do, car manufacturers simply ignore it to pinch pennies. There are SO many things wrong with American automotive regulations and engineering and design practices it is embarrassing.

The way the new Chevy Colorado buries its headlight controls deep within the infotainment system is actually one of the most clever solutions to an extreme problem that I've heard in a long time. Ever since some idiot college-educated engineer decided to combine always-lit gauge clusters with DRLs as bright as headlights, the number of mindless drivers turning their automatic headlights off has skyrocketed. So Chevy says, screw these dumb people, we'll just default the vehicle to automatic and then bury the headlight controls so deep that only a mechanic will be able to find it. Genius.

I personally think they should tie all interior lighting to the headlights which is how it worked for like 110 years before the late 2000s. That way, at night time, you get in your car and are forced to turn on the lights because the interior is pitch black and you can't even see the shift knob to put it in D.