Is having abs, traction control, and others off the most real settings

[SlipZtrEm]

Imagine being so desperate to be right about something, you derail a thread, but ended up being wrong about something within your very derailing comment. What do you even say to such a person?

Tell them an STI VI is identical to a 22B, probably.

To get a more real life experience on each car should I have all assists off. And just learn and practice more to get best lap times and most real life driving experience.

Eh, yes and no. The major issue with driving with assists on in GT Sport for cars that have said assists in the real world is that, in the real world, these systems are often tailor-made for the car, or at the very least, are unique to the manufacturer. In GTS, TCS on a Ferrari operates with the exact same algorithms as a Fit Hybrid.

I tried the GR Supra with ASM and TCS on to compare the virtual against the real. ASM and TCS are too heavy-handed in the default 3 settings, and a little closer to the real thing at 2 each. That's just one car though, and I'm sure some cars would be completely different, especially ones with very complicated driver-assist systems, like the P1 GTR and LaFerrari.

 

[bil coz]

Using no ABS might serve in the process of tuning a car or training yourself in the harshest conditions. I also recommend spending a week without eating, then on FIA day boom! KFC + ABS and destroy everyone.
It might be fun with some ffb in the brake pedal but probably not faster around the track.

 

[talhaONE]

Turn abs on and off for rest.

 

[bil coz]

To get a more real life experience on each car should I have all assists off. And just learn and practice more to get best lap times and most real life driving experience.

In a nutshell
All assists except countersteer assist and auto drive are real life things.
Of these real life things, only ABS isnt just good at spoiling your fun.

 

[GTV0819]

To get a more real life experience on each car should I have all assists off. And just learn and practice more to get best lap times and most real life driving experience.

Try also using the best tires as possible if you want the best lap times because they're great help, too, aside from having those driver assists/aids.

 

[305Michael305]

Cool chooses the right tire and keep everything off. Got it. Sweet.

 

[GTV0819]

The only con of choosing the best tires is that they wear out more prematurely. So do keep note of that.

 

[TexRex]

Who pissed in your cheerios hot shot?

Got a SambaBus as a daily workout gift, more like.

 

[bil coz]

Cool chooses the right tire and keep everything off. Got it. Sweet.

Actually it kind of makes sense to use some traction control when available on the stickiest tires.
That is because if you break traction on RSS tyres for example, you will be in much bigger trouble than if you break it on SH tyres.
By the way unless you're in a hurry to win races in carreer mode or something similar I don't recommend always using the best tyres available. My advice would be to use the default tyres the car comes with, usually SH for sport cars or RH for race cars.
I would say softer tyres require more skills to take full advantage of, while at the same time not being very helpful for building these skills.

 

[BaareCZ]

Ones u get used driving without abs you'll never go back.
More control entering corners and out braking the majority.
Don't no if gts has it (I think so) but all other gt's gave you more bhp without abs.

Switching ABS off = more BHP? WHAT? LOL. Outbraking everyone with ABS off? Definitely. 100% true. If you're skilled enough to brake hard without locking that is. More control entering corners while braking hard with ABS off? WHAT? LOL . So why the hell have they even bothered inventing ABS? Man, you must be one hell of a skilled driver.

 

[PrettyNiceGuy]

Switching ABS off = more BHP? WHAT? LOL. Outbraking everyone with ABS off? Definitely. 100% true. If you're skilled enough to brake hard without locking that is. More control entering corners while braking hard with ABS off? WHAT? LOL . So why the hell have they even bothered inventing ABS? Man, you must be one hell of a skilled driver.

You want to race me?

 

[bil coz]

You want to race me?

I think he really meant you must be very skilled.

 

[Thorin Cain]

Absolutely unequivocally false.

Not so much, no.

So you legitimately believe ABS off, in GT Sport, is faster - but only with a wheel

The potential is definitely there, yes. You could be on a controller too, it'd just be a hell of a lot harder . As it is with a wheel, using ABS on 'weak" takes, what a friend of mine would describe as "Atomic clock precision will the pedal and wheel inputs". But without a doubt, you can rotate the car better under braking on weak and better still when it's off than you can on default...and reduce braking distances. It's just bloody hard to be 100% consistent and the price for a mistake is bigger...especially with tyre wear on. You also get a better picture of what the games physics is actually like.

Edit: p.s. It is important to point out though, the more skilled the driver is, the less of an improvement will be noticed.

IRL sure, in GTS, nope. The Top guys in GTS use ABS default on everything but the Go Kart. There isn’t any/enough feedback in the pedals/wheel to go without ABS in this game.

I've noticed a few of them on replays are actually using "Weak" settings. there were some odd tell-tale signs I noticed in a couple of them, so it prompted me to check the settings out more thoroughly.
It was Sport mode qualifying at Tsukuba, can't remember the car sorry (might have been the Mazda roadsters ). The guy in First place at the time was using weak, and the guy In either 2nd or 3rd, had it off (yellow ABS indicator visible in replay ). So no, not all the top guys use default.

The gteye brake spring is your friend here. Although, I suppose I cant speak specifically to GTS as I use a g27 and havent picked up a hub yet. On GT5&6 though, the gteye spring was designed right into the sweet spot before the wheels would lock up, so you had a good feel for were you needed to be.

Yup, still the same 👍. I'm using the Brooks converter though so the FFB is a bit odd (can't get rid of the dead-zone in the centre on 900° setting), but the brake still more or less still works as you remember. I just got the GTeye mods earlier this year and it's made the world of difference .

 

[Pigems]

Not so much, no.
The potential is definitely there, yes. You could be on a controller too, it'd just be a hell of a lot harder . As it is with a wheel, using ABS on 'weak" takes, what a friend of mine would describe as "Atomic clock precision will the pedal and wheel inputs". But without a doubt, you can rotate the car better under braking on weak and better still when it's off than you can on default. It's just bloody hard to be 100% consistent and the price for a mistake is bigger...especially with tyre wear on. You also get a better picture of what the games physics is actually like.

I've noticed a few of them on replays are actually using "Weak" settings. there were some odd tell-tale signs I noticed in a couple of them, so it prompted me to check the settings out more thoroughly.
It was Sport mode qualifying at Tsukuba, can't remember the car sorry (might have been the Mazda roadsters ). The guy in First place at the time was using weak, and the guy In either 2nd or 3rd, had it off (yellow ABS indicator visible in replay ). So no, not all the top guys use default.

Yup, still the same 👍. I'm using the Brooks converter though so the FFB is a bit odd (can't get rid of the dead-zone in the centre on 900° setting), but the brake still more or less still works as you remember. I just got the GTeye mods earlier this year and it's made the world of difference .

Are you sure is wasn’t the go kart at Tsukuba? As I mentioned a few of them went with weak and off on that combo. All I was trying to imply is that the vast majority of the Aliens use ABS default is all.

 

[Thorin Cain]

Are you sure is wasn’t the go kart at Tsukuba? As I mentioned a few of them went with weak and off on that combo. All I was trying to imply is that the vast majority of the Aliens use ABS default is all.

No, it wasn't the karts, I didn't do that event at all so wouldn't have watched the replays.

I didn't have a problem with your comment, for the large part it's true.
I just wanted people to be aware that they are some who don't use default and are just as quick as those who do .

 

[Epic B]

I generally keep all assists off except for ABS on default, though I leave it off on the kart. As for the question of "realism", most modern cars have TCS and ABS anyway. So if you want the most "real" Group 3 experience leave them on. The better question is whether you can learn to drive faster without them. As for the secondary stuff like countersteer assist I've never used those ever. For standing starts I use one tick of TCS to get off the like then turn it back off.

 

[305Michael305]

So abs off or weak

So what should my settings be.

 

[Epic B]

So what should my settings be.

ABS on default and screw everything else is my setup. If you're comfortable without traction control leave it off too.

 

[Thorin Cain]

So abs off or weak

So what should my settings be.

Best way to find out is to really test them all out .

Personally, on my wheel, I practice/qualify for sport mode with weak, but switch to default for races. I just find it that little bit safer in a crowd . In league/arcade mode races I'll switch depending on the car. So far I've only used ABS off for testing purposes.

If you're using a controller, I'd definitely go with default though 👍.

 

[305Michael305]

So many different options.

 

[kilesa4568]

Definitely ABS on. You'll need it the same as 99% of the other players...for those panic braking moments.

I can sort of understand you wanting real settings for cars but it sounds a bit daft when the car's themselves aren't real. They're just digital assets ruled by the physics of the game and the best way I've found of making the most of them (I drive anything that isn't an FF) is to keep the safe ABS and turn everything else off. That way it's just you, the car and the physics with an easily accessible limit to all of them. A lot purer than the game developers intrusive 'assists' cancelling out some of your inputs.

 

[305Michael305]

Yup. Everything off. Except abs