Is it time to let go?

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I don't know which is stronger, my growing desire to want and see some information from PD or my growing impatience with losing interest with the franchise altogether. However I am an eternal optimist but I have to say PD would pass the test of for being the most testing applicant there is.
 
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What is GT? An everlasting gobstopper? The replay value in GT5 was awesome (course maker, practicing techniques on tons of strangely conjured layouts and the joy of taking cars out on Kart Space,,,mmmm What the flying quack were they thinking by limiting Kart Space to 3 kinds of karts while prohibiting cars to enter.

GT5 was amazing, GT6 needs to play catch up for a better experience, personally speaking. The Course Maker......

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

If Kaz/PD could have transferred the original Course Maker, instead of having us wait close to 2 years for the new one, I would have preferred it. TOOOOO LATE. They should've saved the new "Course Maker" for GT7.

Not to say I'm irritated. SOOOO much has come out of GT5 into GT6 and more. Brilliant game, but the structure. I'm not totally into Driveclub's Tour. The career isn't anywhere near as diverse as GT6, and having said that, neither is FM.


Just a few more moves, give the people what they want, CAR GAME DEVELOPERS!
And Just a few more moves, PD will stun. I'm impatient, but not about this. Dabble around and stop thinking GT games are in the same genre :P as everlasting gobstoppers.
 
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When every other racing game has made the move to the current generation of consoles already while GT is still stuck on old hardware, it's not hard to imagine why people may get a bit impatient. PD's usual, frustrating silent treatment as well as no news regarding GT7 doesn't help either.



GT5 charged $2 for one-use paint DLC, so I wouldn't be so sure about that.

If you look at current models of games. They charge 60$ and 40$ DLC I think Forza does it too. GT already comes with loads of content and features than these games. Moreover I do not think people will mind a bit if we get tracks like RB ring, Sierra rally course, Midfield raceway and the cars for free. GT6 already has one of the best if not the best tracks list and lots cars for its time and even to date 👍 Charging 2$ for Paint chips, lol worst idea ever to make money. I wonder how many people even bought it :scared:
 
Honestly, if you liked early GTs then you'll like Forza just fine. It's a far more obvious descendant of the early games where driving real cars and upgrading them to racing machines was the main goal. Forza still does that, but has built a whole lot of extra stuff around that core. It's basically just Super HD Gran Turismo 2 Online.

Gran Turismo has morphed into this slightly odd thing that is halfway between simulator, motorsports marketing machine, and pure automotive fantasy sandbox. To me, GT6 bears far less resemblance to GT2 than FM4 did. And FM5 was a very similar experience to GT3, but scaled up a couple of generations.

That made me realize what i was missing from GT5 and on... Forza still lacks a clear progression like GT2 and GT4 had though (i do really miss license tests).

This entire thread made me want to get a psx emulator going and dig out my GT2 discs... Second hand supra into red rock valley...

I remember doing the laguna seca endurance race more than once aswell, i think the GT90 was the reward for that one. Also, taking the Escudo around tracks, just accelerating into a corner, turning, just like a pinball. Ah, good memories.
 
Here is the description of my new book,

"The Turning Away" Hardcore fanboy to harsh critic walking away completely. The sad autobiography of the last 2 years of my 18 years with the GT franchise.

I'm now on the cusp of 39 years old, started with GT1 right after I was newly married. It's almost as if I married the franchise at that time as well.

I have been a true die hard supporter of the GT series for years but I have finally lost it. The months of waiting for any small shred of information to fall from the table of Kazunori, the empty promises, the broken dreams of what we thought "might be in that next update", and now most recently all the news of every other game on the planet getting updates that sometimes seem to be daily... so much so that the news headlines on GT Planet hardly even have anything to mention GT about anymore has finally done me in.

Tomorrow I sell 2 of my 3 motorcycles in an effort to raise money for a gaming PC to walk away from the GT franchise. It's almost like a divorce. Losing a love I've had for so many years along with some of my prized possessions in hopes of becoming happy again.

I want so badly to be happy, joyfull, and content with GT but even my regression GT5 counseling has shown me that it is simply too little too late to save our relationship.

While GT6 will still have visitation rights with my children and DS3 controllers my driving rig is moving downstairs and getting a dedicated PC and screen setup for something that I'll be happy with for many years to come.

Kaz, we had a great thing but you've ruined it. I no longer feel anything in my heart for GT. I'm sorry, it's not me, it's you.
 
@smskeeter23 you'll be fine mate. I had a similar experience, last year I ditched GT for Forza after Kaz said that standard cars would be staying for GT7. Now I've had my first anniversary with Forza and couldn't be happier! Guess what, updates, news, transparency, predictable development cycles, release dates you can bet your ass they will make, they didn't drop the ball once.

You know also these are only games, it's not like you marry them. After this year of staying away from GT I feel like I've made peace with the series. By having Forza as my main series now it doesn't bother me in the slightest that are no news and all the rest. If GT7 comes out I'll happily give it a go just like I bought F1 2015, I'll just wait for a cheap ps4 slim to come out and buy the game when it's in at a bargain price. It will be a care free relationship from now on.
 
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Wow, I just found this thread and can relate to a lot of the thoughts and feelings regarding the GT series. I've played all 6 of the titles at one point or another- recently digging out the PS3 earlier this year and getting GT6- and I feel like it's just gotten a bit stale for me. I still love the games, but I needed more- so I finally made the investment and bought an Xbone and some Forza...and it filled a big hole in my driving-game life, to sum things up in one sentence.
 
Wow, I just found this thread and can relate to a lot of the thoughts and feelings regarding the GT series. I've played all 6 of the titles at one point or another- recently digging out the PS3 earlier this year and getting GT6- and I feel like it's just gotten a bit stale for me. I still love the games, but I needed more- so I finally made the investment and bought an Xbone and some Forza...and it filled a big hole in my driving-game life, to sum things up in one sentence.

Welcome! :cheers:
 
Here is the description of my new book,

"The Turning Away" Hardcore fanboy to harsh critic walking away completely. The sad autobiography of the last 2 years of my 18 years with the GT franchise.

I'm now on the cusp of 39 years old, started with GT1 right after I was newly married. It's almost as if I married the franchise at that time as well.

I have been a true die hard supporter of the GT series for years but I have finally lost it. The months of waiting for any small shred of information to fall from the table of Kazunori, the empty promises, the broken dreams of what we thought "might be in that next update", and now most recently all the news of every other game on the planet getting updates that sometimes seem to be daily... so much so that the news headlines on GT Planet hardly even have anything to mention GT about anymore has finally done me in.

Tomorrow I sell 2 of my 3 motorcycles in an effort to raise money for a gaming PC to walk away from the GT franchise. It's almost like a divorce. Losing a love I've had for so many years along with some of my prized possessions in hopes of becoming happy again.

I want so badly to be happy, joyfull, and content with GT but even my regression GT5 counseling has shown me that it is simply too little too late to save our relationship.

While GT6 will still have visitation rights with my children and DS3 controllers my driving rig is moving downstairs and getting a dedicated PC and screen setup for something that I'll be happy with for many years to come.

Kaz, we had a great thing but you've ruined it. I no longer feel anything in my heart for GT. I'm sorry, it's not me, it's you.
That was an entertaining read, thanks:tup:👍
 
I grew up with Gran Turismo and have had no qualms with abandoning the franchise to play Forza instead. I find that I've got a lot less time to play games these days and Forza allows me to jump in and have a quick blast around a track, or paint my car, or modify it just to have fun. Gran Turismo has lost that magic for me, and the constant lack of news and updates only adds to the frustration of playing the game. I played GT6 for a few hours before it started to collect dust on my games shelf whereas I'm still playing Forza Horizon 2 and Forza 5 on my Xbox One.

I think another reason it feels less special is that there has been nothing to do with GT for the PS4 yet. In November the PS4 will have been out for 2 years and to not even have a glimmer of a GT game on the PS4 by now is pretty disappointing, even to lifelong fans.
 
To OP

I felt the same way you do, grown up with GT series myself.
But asked myself last week if i wanted to spend the cold nights of the coming winter watching stupid tv shows and sitcoms or play GT6 witch iv gotten tired of.

No i dont. So went and got a xbox one with forza 5, didnt take me many hours of playtime before i preordered Forza 6.
Im letting go, but wont forget the great memories from GT. and im not coming back unless GT7 blows the simcade racing world away.

And i allways told myself i was a die hard GT Fan, not so much anymore :O
 
To OP

I felt the same way you do, grown up with GT series myself.
But asked myself last week if i wanted to spend the cold nights of the coming winter watching stupid tv shows and sitcoms or play GT6 witch iv gotten tired of.

No i dont. So went and got a xbox one with forza 5, didnt take me many hours of playtime before i preordered Forza 6.
Im letting go, but wont forget the great memories from GT. and im not coming back unless GT7 blows the simcade racing world away.

And i allways told myself i was a die hard GT Fan, not so much anymore :O

Welcome to Forza! Make sure to drop by the gamertag exchange thread.
 
Welcome to Forza! Make sure to drop by the gamertag exchange thread.
Thank you, not completly new to Forza, played FM3 alot.

But il go do that right away :)
 
We may have both games. But the real question here is how much time and investment we put into.

And theres the other sim racers other than both, numerous infact, that entered the competition. Its not a duel anymore. And i hope each of them didnt get defeated by competition by not communicating often, months of delay, etc.

Hey, 2 VGTs for a couple of weeks! Couldnt you be more excited? Well the others got exactly two packs of IRL DLC but come on, two VGTs!
 
I don't understand why people feel the need to pick one or the other. Why not have them both?
the only reason I can see why people pick one or the other when it comes to Gt and Forza is cost reasons. Some people may not want to pay or cant afford to pay 299 bucks for an Xbox one and 59 for a new copy of Forza Motorsport 6.
 
Not everyone can afford to just double their gaming investment at will. I see people posting on forums complaining about spending $3 on DLC.
the only reason I can see why people pick one or the other when it comes to Gt and Forza is cost reasons. Some people may not want to pay or cant afford to pay 299 bucks for an Xbox one and 59 for a new copy of Forza Motorsport 6.
Nobody's talking about doubling investments. Save up, buy a used XB1, maybe wait for the game's price to come down, and keep buying games at the same rate you were before. If the electricity bill's a little tight, only run one console at a time to cut down on power usage. See?

I've have both consoles, even the Nintendo Wii U. Do I get a reward huh huh? :D

You get the Cookie of the Multi-Platform Master Race. Here you go!

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If your video games are seriously impacting your electricity bill, I'd be worried. They shouldn't be adding more than a few dollars, tops.
That would only happen to someone who played videogames 24/7
 
If your video games are seriously impacting your electricity bill, I'd be worried. They shouldn't be adding more than a few dollars, tops.
True. Still, I'd only run one console at a time because it's always good to save money where you can.
 
Is it time to let go? Let me give you a little perspective from a guy who came awfully close, but isn't quite prepared to say goodbye yet.

About a year ago, I was racing in a parity league when the owner announced that he was giving up GT and buying a PC rig for this new game Assetto Corsa. It was still in early access, but apparently was the t*ts and more importantly, definitely going to be part of the future of driving sims. I decided to have a little look, saw some screen shots and withing seconds I was checking my laptop specs to see if I could run it! Dell i3 Win 8.1 - 4GB Ram with onboard graphics. Not sure but I bought the game anyway and promptly ordered 4 more gig of RAM just to supplement the graphics. After a quick download and some messing around with my Ferrari Challenge steering wheel, I was driving my Mercedes SLS AMG around Monza in no time and without one single bit of grinding to do it! Not to mention that every single car in the game is premium. Period. Not sure about the gameplay, but that's one thing Project Cars has done extrememly well. Working gauges and engine controls were done very well. But I would still call it the Forza of PC sims, Versus AC being the GT of them. Good thing I don't have a girlfriend because she would have been badly ignored long enough to walk out on me, and I would probably just be noticing now.

I promptly said goodbye to my friends @ERAUfan97 - @JKRACING23 - @MOPARbarrett5 - @kz204 - @MOPARcards3 from the DERL and all the guys locally who I raced dirty with almost daily. I was moving to the future of driving sims. Almost a year later, the purchase of a G27, Project Cars, and Euro Truck Sim2 for my PC, I am back running with the DERL and occasionally racing dirty with my GT people. Things are working out fine with my laptop while I save the money to buy a serious PC and be able to retire my laptop to only programming and development, poor thing.

However, there is one thing that I have not matched yet on the PC side of it. That's the social community that GT has. My life has recently taken a very stressful turn and now that day to day living is killing me on the inside, the GT community is the group that I have had to turn back to for support and comradery during a time in my life that is only rivaled by a prison stint I did a few years back. A small aside on that. They say you are never supposed to cry in prison, and I agree 100%. It's not a good idea. But I did once. Around Christmas when GT5 came out. We were in our cell watching TV and a commercial for GT5 came on. I did cry. Not very loudly, but it was obvious enough that I had to get under the covers of my bunk so that everyone thought I was taking a nap. The first time I would not buy a version of GT when it came out was a tough lesson. I will not be allowing myself to get locked up ever again, that was so tough.

The Assetto Corsa and Project Cars communities are growing and have their advantages. Modding and addons being the biggest. At last count, in Assetto Corsa, I have 275 cars and 251 tracks, most of which are real track models, with only a few being fictional. Some of the car mods are crap, but many of us, myself included work tirelessly when we have the time to build on and improve those cars and track, and with a few exceptions, this is all for free. I don't think that's something we will ever likely see with console systems, and that's a big problem for me. I don't want to spend quadruple the cost of the game buying DLCs forever. Call me old fashioned. (49 years old good enough)?

There is some community on the PC boards, but it's not as loose as it is in the GT community and it's generally run by racing primadonas who think F1 is the only real racing in the world and that you are a Neanderthal if you are into anything else. There is little or no NASCAR community or Touge community, both of which I love greatly, the truth be told, we are badly in need of our fellow GT nuts to join us.

But when times turned Ruf (couldn't resist), I have returned to my GT community to talk, race, argue, and socialize with so quickly that I think it even surprised me when I came back. Now I am trying to maintain a good balance between the two and have even given thought to buying a PS4, should GT7 be better than average, and it should at least meet that goal. But Gran Turismo has become a lifestyle, and a social hub for a few of us who speak in terms of oversteer, understeer, PP, grind, dirty, Route X, VGT...etc.

If I owned a Dodge Daytona, and then bought an Tesla Roadster (IRL), would it be time to let go of the Daytona? Absolutely not! It might be a little old, but it is still beautiful and there are still people out there who want to hang out, look at them, talk about them, and race them. So I would keep both. In short, for me, no it is not. Thanks for listening folks. See you on track.
 
Na I don't think it's time to let go. I can understand why others will let go though. Some can handle its hardly evolving game series while others can't. It's just a thing with us humans. We strive something new every time weather it be on anything really. It's just natural. So if anything I say give PDI at least ONE more chance. They should be lucky millions are giving them a 2nd chance,but we all know GT7 will sell well or maybe it'll change for the series.
 
I've always been a fan of GT. Ever since I was a toddler, I'd play GT4 on my PS3 (because backwards compatibility). However, when Forza Motorsport 4 came out, I wanted it. Desperately. At the time, I already had GT5, and being a little(er) kid, I kept playing with what I had. When GT6 came out, I got it immediately. And you know what? I loved it. It had everything I like about GT5 (except acceleration tests) and even more. However, when I decided it was time to get an 8th generation, I was deciding: get the XB1 or PS4? I'm privileged enough to have one, so if I have to schoose one, make it the right choice. When I thought about next generation consoles, and next-gen racing sims, I thought to myself: do I want to wait and possibly be disappointed with GT7, or do I know for a fact that I want Forza, since that's already come out? I decided for months. However, I finally came to my conclusion: I'd trust PD and hope that GT7 comes on PS4, and better than ever. And you know what? I don't regret that decision; at least, not yet. I've a sentimental attachment to the series that I don't think I can quite leave just yet.
 
Just watched some Forza6 vids and by the looks of it Pcars is better. I do not like the FOV in Forza games. Pcars have nailed it and GT6 has 3 options too. Obviously Forza has lots of cars and modding and I guess will be a better game than Pcars. GT7 probably will release before Forza7 or may be during the same year :scared:
 
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