is it worth 40 usd ....

[Joey D]

Wow was that post was pretty poor. Just because I think it's an overpriced demo doesn't mean others do, I realise that. And for the record I don't play Forza.

 

[Gaz Vonhammer]

I'm in the uk and $40 is a bargain for this game, I never understand why people call it a demo, I got the demo from the japanese store months ago.
I've always treated this for what it is and what the word prologue means. introduction.

it's there to introduce you to the GT5, and I think John bm01 sums it up perfectly in his last post

 

[Rocket Punch]

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

It's always the people who don't got it posting. Go ahead and wait, we importers and the faithful who feel it's worth it will be playing. Funny, no one who HAS it complains about the price,eh?

Maybe because the people who have it felt that it was worth their money before they bought it? 💡

 

[frestkd]

frestkd, Why the hell do you like to cause arguments? Most of your posts include something like "haha, now I'm just making the argument worse." Go somewhere else if you just want to fight with everyone.
Also, I don't see how you need to tell everyone whether you think this is worth the extra money or not. Your probably not changing anyone's opinions.

Don't worry. At this rate, he'll be shown the door, esp. since he likes going into the other forums saying, "Oh the rantings hehe".

The one thing he is wrong about is that it is not a demo. The price may be debatable like anything, but what GT5 is classified as (game or demo), isn't. It's a $40 game, not a demo. No demo has ever given this much content.

I have the need to fill my need of being a little brother somehow ... it brings me joy to see how many people I can piss off ...

and in order to enjoy of 8 players online game you have to have live account, that's how much per each year? and the thing is, FM2 tops out at 300+ cars. real life tear and wear is only cosmetic, doesn't affect on driving physics or top speed.. do I need to go on? and that's only if the 360 doesn't scratch the disc or start flashing the RRoD(tm)..

if you want to rave about outdated FM2, keep it to XBOX360 section, don't start flamewars here.

Dude there's damage in FM2 and it's not cosmetic ... FM2 is the direct competition of GT5P. It's the same price, and does more than GT5P. Competition is good for gaming industry so discussing it is also good. I'm pointing out what each product is offering, and in my opinion so far Turn10 offers a better product. Yes you can only play up to 8 players online on a paid service, but paying for the service gives a better gaming experience. Sooner, or later Sony will most likely start charging to play online.

 

[GTP_JASE72]

Yawn

 

[McLaren]

I have the need to fill my need of being a little brother somehow ... it brings me joy to see how many people I can piss off ...

Too bad nobody is pissed off, just annoyed.

Doesn't matter. I'm sure the moderators will deal with you when they see this is your only reason to be on this site.

 

[scandisk]

Dude there's damage in FM2 and it's not cosmetic ... FM2 is the direct competition of GT5P. It's the same price, and does more than GT5P. Competition is good for gaming industry so discussing it is also good. I'm pointing out what each product is offering, and in my opinion so far Turn10 offers a better product. Yes you can only play up to 8 players online on a paid service, but paying for the service gives a better gaming experience. Sooner, or later Sony will most likely start charging to play online.

So a "BETTER" competing product makes another game not worthy of it's price?
Sure it's not better than FM2 and I wholeheartedly agree. But there's just too many factors to determine a game's worth (most of them are subjective IMO).
So by that you mean GT5s not worth it because it's inferior to FM2 in so many ways, it's because FM2 is the only competing product, the only alternative to GT. Well, Racing sim/racing market =/= Forza!

 

[GTP_JASE72]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought FM2 was a full game ?

Where as Prolouge by definition is a mere introduction.

So I guess in that respect FM2 my well be better.
But if you are ranting so much now.
Man you are going to be having kittens when the full GT5 hits.

 

[TopGearFan08]

FM2 create cars by feeding their specs into a mathematical algorithim, they dont even drive half the cars in the game! That should be the end of FM2 vs GT5 IMO.

Having driven a Mini Cooper S on a race track, as soon as I jumped into the VW Golf GTI I got an instant feeling of similarity, and that was with just a controller...

I would pay full price £50/$100 for prologue just to drive the cars round the tracks, There is no question over whether or not it is "worth it".

 

[zondahelmet]

I give up.

Joey, and others, thanks for reinforcing the idea that the NA market is too stupid, finicky, and easily confused to bother releasing this game here. Enjoy your Forza and your '07-and-newer-only-Bini.

The more time passes, the more I realize how lucky I am that they bothered to release Prologue here at all. Since they announced the release date it's just been brutal.

Thanks to PD and SCEA for going out on limb for the die-hards, and I apologize in advance for the headaches it's obviously going to create for you, and for tolerating a population that has expectations (for everything) that go beyond the scope of reality.

he's just defending his stance, dont be so pussy hurt and defensive

theres nothing wrong with his opinion

 

[FoolKiller]

It seems like a greed move by Sony and PD to release what is essentially an unfinished game. I mean I understand it's pure economics to release this because fans of the series will buy it, but at the same time it seems like they are taking advantage of the situation and not in a good way for the consumer.

Two things to note here:

1) Your argument could be used to say the same about any IP with a side-story game on a portable handheld system. God of War: Chains of Olympus comes to mind. $40 for dumbed down graphics, a short story, and if the demo is any judge, it causes system slowdown, and it doesn't move the main story along. I'll probably still play that too.

2) I can't call it a greed move as so many fans were upset that we didn't get GT4 in NA. I think Sony is really just responding to a market demand for something unusual in a region that demands they want what other regions are always getting.

I kind of look at it this way, as someone confirmed my suspicion that the difference between GT4 and GT4 was noticeable, this is equal to a PSP in-between only they kept it on the main system to avoid sacrificing graphics and whatnot.

Just a couple of things to think about when you wonder if it was a greed move by Sony.

It's one big balancing act keeping everyone happy then they're bombared mostly by the US market claiming it is a rip off........ Fine, that's your opinion, don't buy it. Strange that during GT4P days there was nothing but complaints how the US market didn't get it, just can't ever win.

I think this is the issue, Sony is responding to die hards in NA, but now the other side is complaining. Personally, I prefer the option, even if I don't want to take it.

But that is also why I am not trying to fight with those that don't think it is worth the money. I have toyed with that debate internally and finally opted to buy it. It is a choice, not a forced game, so it isn't bad. Rather it is a way to give die hard fans an appetizer until the main course is ready. But some people don't like paying $5.99 for cheese sticks, or whatever appetizer they choose, and only get the main course.

It works for me and I fail to see what the argument is about. I am not about to tell someone they are an idiot or just don't get it because they didn't get bacon cheese fries or potato skins. Nor do I think I should be told I just got ripped off because I did. I mean, dude I am hungry now, and since there is no unlimited supply of free chips I am getting an appetizer. You can fully choose to be hungry while I take the edge off my hunger.


Now that I have taken this way too far.....

For me it's not worth $40, so I'll wait for GT5 to come out. I'll probably have plenty of other games to play.

Ah yes, the only debate I have left. I have 40 games on my Gamefly list. I am trying to play through a bunch of PS1 games again, and I know I want to buy at least two other games right now. None of those things will happen for months after I buy this.

But I just made my wife change plans to have people at the house on April 18th, so I think I made my decision to the point of creating marital strife. Pampered Chef can wait! I need the living room!

Dude there's damage in FM2 and it's not cosmetic ... FM2 is the direct competition of GT5P. It's the same price, and does more than GT5P. Competition is good for gaming industry so discussing it is also good. I'm pointing out what each product is offering, and in my opinion so far Turn10 offers a better product. Yes you can only play up to 8 players online on a paid service, but paying for the service gives a better gaming experience. Sooner, or later Sony will most likely start charging to play online.

Was it the same price when it was new? I thought 360 games were all $59.99 at first? If so it is an unfair price comparison I believe. I mean, I could say GT4 is half the price as Forza 2 and contains more content. But I don't because that is also not a proper price comparison.

I don't disagree that you may feel it is not worth the price, but trying to make it out to be less than a year old, full game, after a price discount is just being argumentative and I don't think that arguing over this issue will help anything.

Feel free to say why you disagree about the price, and I even invite you to rent it so you can make a fully informed decision. But I don't see why you had to bring Forza into the discussion aside from just saying you would rather spend the money on Forza 2 to tide you over until GT5 comes out.

Besides we have a Forza vs GT thread.

 

[JohnBM01]

I noted that devoted fans would pay this amount to get GT5P. Well, would any of you still buy if this was... $80? $100? $400? What if it was $20 or $30?

 

[FoolKiller]

I noted that devoted fans would pay this amount to get GT5P. Well, would any of you still buy if this was... $80? $100? $400? What if it was $20 or $30?

I think $40 is my limit. Start pushing full game prices, or more, and it does look to be a greed trick just to take advantage of hardcore fans.

I would prefer $30, as that would be more than a PSN game and not quite a Warhawk full game. But I can accept $40 as I will probably get more out of this than I did/do Warhawk.

Perhaps if I didn't suck at Warhawk....

 

[GTP_JASE72]

LOL
Warhawk is ok but soon got forgotten about with the arrival of GT5P

 

[un_peacekeeper]

I noted that devoted fans would pay this amount to get GT5P. Well, would any of you still buy if this was... $80? $100? $400? What if it was $20 or $30?

My limit would be probably $60, as a full priced game, but not much more than that. Add to that some Canadian government tax...it's pretty expensive.

 

[Strop]

I followed Forza 2 pretty closely right up until the release. At first glance it looked like a possible replacement for GT-4, at least until GT-5 comes out. In the end though I lost interest. Firstly the original trailers looked incredible. Then as we got closer and closer to release the graphics got worse and worse until finally it barely improved on the previous version, and that even allowing that it wasn't going to even try 1080p. Disappointing to say the least.

The final nail in the coffin was refusal to support any decent racing wheel (DFP or G25 particularly) in lieu of forcing you to buy Microsoft's own kiddy-racing wheel. To this day the topic comes up regular on their forums and the answer is always the same - it will never happen.

I went back to GT-4 and having been having a blast driving in the WRS.

 

[shaka]

Have you seen the graphics of this badboy and the most fun online gaming for real now, thats endless fun.

i gladly pay the full 60, GT series are legendary everyone with a PS3 should buy it.

 

[mazdaman83]

FM2 is the direct competition of GT5P. It's the same price, and does more than GT5P.

Other than the (restricted) damage I don't see what is does more

I absolutely love GT5Prologue. I bought Forza 2, It doesnt have realistic car handling. I really tried to get used to the feeling of the cars and the controls. I even bought the Microsoft Steering Wheel because driving Forza 2 with a controller really sucks, And I still could not enjoy that game

I also hate the camera angles in the Replays

But I know many people love Forza 2, so I'll respect your choice of game. But it doesn't do it for me

 

[frestkd]

Restricted Damage ??? What do you mean about restricted damage on FM2? Umm you do know that a player on FM2 can pretty much kill a car to a point that it won't move. Let me ask you a few questions. Can a player in GT5P change out a drive line from an E34 Skyline to a S13 Silvia? How about online play configurations like turning on/off collisions, tire wear, damage, fuel consumption, engine layout, racing class, and etc? Hmm the 1080p, and 16 players is starting not look so good. In my opinion it's NOT worth 40 bucks.

Other than the (restricted) damage I don't see what is does more

I absolutely love GT5Prologue. I bought Forza 2, It doesnt have realistic car handling. I really tried to get used to the feeling of the cars and the controls. I even bought the Microsoft Steering Wheel because driving Forza 2 with a controller really sucks, And I still could not enjoy that game

I also hate the camera angles in the Replays

But I know many people love Forza 2, so I'll respect your choice of game. But it doesn't do it for me

 

[McLaren]

Restricted Damage ??? What do you mean about restricted damage on FM2? Umm you do know that a player on FM2 can pretty much kill a car to a point that it won't move. Let me ask you a few questions. Can a player in GT5P change out a drive line from an E34 Skyline to a S13 Silvia? How about online play configurations like turning on/off collisions, tire wear, damage, fuel consumption, engine layout, racing class, and etc? Hmm the 1080p, and 16 players is starting not look so good. In my opinion it's worth 40 bucks.

Congratulations for the most pointless post ever.

You do realize GT5 is NOT going to have all of GT5's features. You might as well be criticizing GT5 for only having 71 cars.

 

[un_peacekeeper]

Restricted Damage ??? What do you mean about restricted damage on FM2? Umm you do know that a player on FM2 can pretty much kill a car to a point that it won't move. Let me ask you a few questions. Can a player in GT5P change out a drive line from an E34 Skyline to a S13 Silvia? How about online play configurations like turning on/off collisions, tire wear, damage, fuel consumption, engine layout, racing class, and etc? Hmm the 1080p, and 16 players is starting not look so good. In my opinion it's worth 40 bucks.

Congratulations for the most pointless post ever.

You do realize GT5 is NOT going to have all of GT5's features. You might as well be criticizing GT5 for only having 71 cars.

Second to the congrats.

What an idiot...

 

[Hereward]

Ignore the nay sayers LOL
Personaly I'm going to say first up this is a demo...........With 70+ cars 12 tracks (inc variatons) 16 player online races and tuneing options plus a single player mode wher you need to earm your cars. That is in the scheme of things one BIG demo! I'm not going to draw comparispns with Forza 2 altough I could, but rather one of my favorite 360 online raceing games, PGR3. That game stole so much of my life as it did many others LOL essentialy though there were 3 main tracks that I played online and probubley 20 or so cars depending on the class of race. 3 lap races were a good lengh and the races were allways close run things throughout the field of 8 cars. Now the graphics were good and the tracks well layed out with a nice car physics system.
Looking at GT5 P your getting more than PGR, ok so the single player may be smaller and the overall track and car list is smaller......But! for those who haven't experienced a decent online racer the single player and the online sections are seperate games if you like, Like COD4 you'll spend the majority of your time online! Tuneing your car and getting the setup right is for the single player then the main meat of the game is online. 3 Favorite tracks and about 20 favorite cars is well within GT5P lineup, mastering this amount of combinations to a decent level will take months of enjoyable online raceing......It took the release of Forza 2 (about 12 months) before I stoped playing PGR3 using the same number of combinations.
So I've strayed of the topic a little, Well not really, personaly the cost is a bargain when you consider this "Demo" actualy has more to offer than some full price AAA titles!
Oh and don't read fanboy stuff into this, I'm a big raceing fan, PGR3 and Forza 2 being excellent games on the 360, unfortunatly theres no driveing sims on the PS3 until GT and ferrari challenge arive (No motorstorm or paradise are not simulators LOL) so I used the games I know and love to draw comparison

GT5P should see a good online community especially if rumors of integration into home is true, I can see this game more than filling the gap before GT5 finally arrives and the New TOCA and theres always Ferrari Challenge to mix things up while the PS3 racing community awaits Sonys big hitters.

Apologies for the poor spelling I know it's bad.

 

[JohnBM01]

I try not to spell bad. I was in a Spelling Bee in my younger days (until I got shafted). Frestkd, seems like you're not making too many friends on GTPlanet. I'm personally not excited about damage, so I'm shying off of that topic completely. "GT5: Prologue" is just that- a Prologue. Even in the past, we've all learned that crashes will be confined to racing machines only (unless we get to have RacingModify (to use "Tourist Trophy" speak) modifications to cars, then almost any car would be fair game). I haven't seen much in the way of damage to begin with. We could probably just see paint getting scraped off the cars from collisions at best. Since this Prologue will not be a full-on GT game, don't expect too many full-on features. If you're willing to speculate on GT5, you are free to in other discussions.

Meanwhile, feel free to enjoy getting OWNED by most of the people on here, including my fellow Texas native, * McLaren *.

 

[FoolKiller]

Meanwhile, feel free to enjoy getting OWNED by most of the people on here, including my fellow Texas native, * McLaren *.

So does that mean you are getting a PS3 in the next month?

 

[frestkd]

Congratulations for the most pointless post ever.

You do realize GT5 is NOT going to have all of GT5's features. You might as well be criticizing GT5 for only having 71 cars.

Second to the congrats.

What an idiot...

Not an idiot, just a little dyslexic ... I pointed out that GT5P is not worth 40 bucks, because for the same price FM2 that is a better product.

How am I an idiot when I can compare both products at this very moment and some people here are so closed minded that they think looking on youtube is just as good as comparing them in front of them with their own eyes? You're a bunch of ignorant fanboys ...

 

[GTP_JASE72]

You're an IDIOT because you insist on comparing a full game to what is essentially only one third if not even less than what is going to be the full game.

Ignorance is Bliss - So wipe the smile off my face

 

[McLaren]

Not an idiot, just a little dyslexic ... I pointed out that GT5P is not worth 40 bucks, because for the same price FM2 that is a better product.

How am I an idiot when I can compare both products at this very moment and some people here are so closed minded that they think looking on youtube is just as good as comparing them in front of them with their own eyes? You're a bunch of ignorant fanboys ...

And you're a complete and udder moron.

You're sitting here faulting Gran Turismo 5 Prologue for not having the features, that the finished game might actually have.
And you're also being an ignorant fool for comparing the prices when Forza 2 retailed for $60, not $40 when it came out.

 

[scandisk]

He's also a troll in the Forza sub-forum, Ignore him. He kinda hates his life. Poor kitty.

 

[Hereward]

Well I'm convinced! I'm off to buy Forza 2 right now........Hang on that games only on the 360! how will that work on my PS3?
Follow this argument for a second, If I owned a 360 (I sold mine 2 months ago) and I had a choice between Forza 2 and GT5P (if it was available on the PS3) and I could only buy one.......then yeah I'd have Forza2........why? well it's a full game isn't it! if I had the choice of GT5P and the Forza 2 demo......yeah GTp everytime and the same goes for the full GT5 game and Forza 2.
If you want to compare stuff then great if it's multi platform or your comparing 2 games on the same system! what should we do go out and buy a 360 and a copy of Forza 2 instead of GT5p? Kinda getting expensive, your argument should read "GT5p $40 or Forza 2 + 360 $300 which will you buy? "
In the uk taking into consideration exchange rates GT5p=$50 full priced game=$100 40gig PS3=$600 PSN game=$10 so come on it's a half priced game to us poor taxed morons LOL
Now everyone stand back from the cage and stop feeding the 360 troll

Just to negate my fanboy status I ran a large Forza 2 online race club on both the demo and full priced game with bi-weekly races and ongoing time-trials, in fact the club still goes on without me after I turned to the darkside!

Heres 2 of my team raceing cars taken from forza 2s photo mode! just to sooth your anxious brow.