Its official, NA Release = Feb 22nd

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El_Torero
Learn to speak english, boy... " Don´t those people understand english..." not doesn´t...

And by the way, we spanish speaking people are many more than those that speak whatever they speak in windmill-land... Danish? or Tullip? how was it?

Cheers...
You are an idiot, what you are talkng abou is The Netherlands, he is from Denmark
amperantly the only smart people that don't say : Dude, dude, dude are NASA guys.

So now pick up your Atlas , no not your crack, and see where those country's are.
And yes they are both in the beautifull Europe.
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LaBounti
Well the US version will have all the new features of the pal version. The new Mazda was already seen. Its only a few days apart from the oficial press release for pal and US.

3 weeks and counting, Bummer, i thought i'd have more time to play Champions Return to Arms.
I am in Europa so i bought James Bond 007:Everything or Nothing, so i wil be busy till the PAL release
 
I'm gonna go stand beside the mellow black man, I'm hearing what he's saying. I take it you're out of school John. People realize as they get older and go through a few real disappointments in life that most of it doesn't really matter anyway. Why get stressed out over a game? I'll say hello when it gets here. Until then I'll just keep playing Dynasty Warriors, TW2005, or a little Conflict:Vietnam. They all go good with a bowl.

About the delivery date stuff: I've done some delivery work for the local Sears and remember something that happened not long ago. There was a box that came in on UPS and it sat in the back for a couple of weeks before one of the girls decided to open it up and see what it was. It wasn't marked important and didn't have any identification or tags stating what it was or who it was for, so no one had touched it. It was actually a full display case of the final LOTR movies, which was due to be released in ANOTHER 2 weeks. We had it a full month before the date. That just tells me that the release date should be defined as the first day that the movie, or in this case the game, can be sold. How and when any particular store gets copies TO sell has no bearing on that date, they can't sell them before then. I'd say that it comes down to whoever is in charge of the actual receiving of the game for the store. If it's a gung-ho gamer or movie freak, they'll have their inventory ready to go asap. If it's someone that isn't interested in such things and just doing a job, it may be an extra day or two before you see it on their shelves.

2P vs. garage battles, extra cars, you get this and I don't, and why, oh why, oh why? Move to freakin Wisconsin. I've got 190 cars in my GT3 garage and I'd say 100 of them have no miles on them. (Not sure of the number but a lot of them have sky or evo in their name) I'll take whatever they give us and use what I like and if something bothers me enough I'll email PD or whoever else I can find to state what's bothering me, why it bothers me, and my suggestion for a solution. Anything other than that is beyond my control, so why stress about it?

To my European\Australian boardmates: Please forgive me for being where I'm from, the image your world has of us should not include all of us. America has a very wide variety of cultures and opinions, we're not a nation united under those that happen to be in power at the moment. It doesn't matter who it is, what they stand for, or how popular they are, they will NEVER satisfy everyone in this country because this country CAN'T be satisfied. You shouldn't be so quick to jump on the US though, it was founded by Europeans after all. Greedy Europeans that weren't satisfied with what they had.

I don't mean to sound so negative, I just have very little respect for the world I live in and the people who inhabit it. That's why I keep to myself. I'm actually a happy person who gets along well with most everyone, very mellow and laid back, like John said. Life is short and it will be over soon, so enjoy your stay.
 
"America has a very wide variety of cultures and opinions, we're not a nation united under those that happen to be in power at the moment"


In fact. for two elections in a row now, the winner didn't actually win....................more people in America voted for Gore last election, but because of the whole ballot being lost and "some of them were made to look like you were voting for one but were really voting for another" thing. Not to mention that even without that problem......more people in the states overall voted for gore...............it's because of the electoral votes system that the MINORITY vote won. Sad country huh?

Then lets start with this last one.
Can anyone say Ohio? How about almost 200,000 (90 percent of which were believed to swing to kerry's favor...which would explain why bush and gang pushed so hard for them NOT to be counted...) ballots were NOT counted. If they were counted, and even 60 percent of them were found to favor Kerry (and as I said 90 percent were thought to have been kerry votes) Kerry would have won Ohio and won the election.

Sorry my friends, but this system is screwed up. I don't like Bush. I hate him. But if he had won it fair and square I'd concede and I'd have to stand behind him. He would be the elected leader and deserves my support. But he didn't and I won't.



Anyway. No more off topic, sorry.
Ummmmmmmm gt4 rah! rah!
 
S31Ender
In fact. for two elections in a row now, the winner didn't actually win....................more people in America voted for Gore last election, but because of the whole ballot being lost and "some of them were made to look like you were voting for one but were really voting for another" thing. Not to mention that even without that problem......more people in the states overall voted for gore...............it's because of the electoral votes system that the MINORITY vote won. Sad country huh?

Spoken like a true democrat... Bush won both elections fair and square. The first time he won with the minority vote, and the second time he won with the majority vote. But both times he had the required amount of electoral votes needed to win. Total popular vote count doesn't mean anything...

Our founding fathers came up with this system, it makes the smaller states somewhat equal with the larger states. Its part of our checks and balances system, and it works. Your just pissed because your guy didn't get in.

S31Ender
Then lets start with this last one.
Can anyone say Ohio? How about almost 200,000 (90 percent of which were believed to swing to kerry's favor...which would explain why bush and gang pushed so hard for them NOT to be counted...) ballots were NOT counted. If they were counted, and even 60 percent of them were found to favor Kerry (and as I said 90 percent were thought to have been kerry votes) Kerry would have won Ohio and won the election.

Kinda like the Florida Panhandle in the 2000 Election? All the news stations called Florida 45 minutes before the polling places in the Panhandle closed. Which caused the people waiting in line to vote, leave because they though Kerry had won Florida. How could you call Florida, when its panhandle still has 45 minutes left to vote and its that close. Since the Panhandle is mostly republican, that hurt Bush's vote severly. Which is what made the race in Florida close. Check it out for yourself, go look up when Florida was called for Gore, then go look at a timezone chart. Florida is in two different time zones, which would give the panhandle longer to vote.

Anyways, about Ohio... There weren't 200,000, there were just under 155,000. Those votes weren't counted because they were cast in the wrong precincts, which sounds really fishy to me. 90% of those votes weren't believed to be for kerry, but he would need 90% of those votes to win. And since Bush won Ohio with 51.5% of the votes, its kinda hard to see how Kerry could have gotten 90% of those 155,000 votes to win.

S31Ender
Sorry my friends, but this system is screwed up. I don't like Bush. I hate him. But if he had won it fair and square I'd concede and I'd have to stand behind him. He would be the elected leader and deserves my support. But he didn't and I won't.

I'm kind of confused... You said earlier that Bush didn't win the 2000 election because he won the electorial vote and not the popular vote. YET, the same would have been with Kerry if he had won Ohio. He would have won the electorial vote and not the popular vote, so in your own words... He would have been the winner without winning. Isn't that right?

The system isn't screwed up, its you...

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Back to the GT4 discussion...

Just over 2 weeks till the NA version is released. Glad we finally have a solid release date, and I hope it isn't pushed back for some unforseen reason. Man this game is gonna rock, I hope I see some GT4 comercials for the Super Bowl, I haven't seen ANY yet...
 
Mods, sorry about the off topic, I'll keep it short.

S31Ender
... (90 percent of which were believed to swing to kerry's favor...which would explain why bush and gang pushed so hard for them NOT to be counted...) ballots were NOT counted. If they were counted, and even 60 percent of them were found to favor Kerry (and as I said 90 percent were thought to have been kerry votes) Kerry would have won Ohio and won the election.
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Everything I quoted is an outright lie. ALL ballots were counted. Kerry conceded before all ballots were counted because he knew he didnt have a snowballs chance of winning Ohio with them.

Back on topic
syclone538
Will stores that are open 24 hours like Walmart and Meijer sell it at midnight?
 
As Americans (those who are anyway), lets calm the fighting for now, enjoy the superbowl tomorow, and celebrate this beautiful beautiful month until the 22nd and play the hell out of the game the day after. No need to fight guys
 
Black95Z28
Any word on any extras or fixes for the N/A release?

I wouldn't expect too much, especially with it being released before the PAL version. We'll most likely get the same thing as the PAL, maybe with a couple of extra cars. But I would imagine that would be it.
 
i worried that we might not even get what PAL's getting. i hope we do, but with no announcment, i don't know what to expect.
 
You guys got me all hyped up, so i preordered the game today! Just 17 more days, but my gamestop usaully receives the order a day or 2 early!
 
S31Ender
"America has a very wide variety of cultures and opinions, we're not a nation united under those that happen to be in power at the moment"


In fact. for two elections in a row now, the winner didn't actually win....................more people in America voted for Gore last election, but because of the whole ballot being lost and "some of them were made to look like you were voting for one but were really voting for another" thing. Not to mention that even without that problem......more people in the states overall voted for gore...............it's because of the electoral votes system that the MINORITY vote won. Sad country huh?

Then lets start with this last one.
Can anyone say Ohio? How about almost 200,000 (90 percent of which were believed to swing to kerry's favor...which would explain why bush and gang pushed so hard for them NOT to be counted...) ballots were NOT counted. If they were counted, and even 60 percent of them were found to favor Kerry (and as I said 90 percent were thought to have been kerry votes) Kerry would have won Ohio and won the election.

Sorry my friends, but this system is screwed up. I don't like Bush. I hate him. But if he had won it fair and square I'd concede and I'd have to stand behind him. He would be the elected leader and deserves my support. But he didn't and I won't.



Anyway. No more off topic, sorry.
Ummmmmmmm gt4 rah! rah!

Kerry wouldn't have won even with Ohio
 
S31Ender
"America has a very wide variety of cultures and opinions, we're not a nation united under those that happen to be in power at the moment"


In fact. for two elections in a row now, the winner didn't actually win....................more people in America voted for Gore last election, but because of the whole ballot being lost and "some of them were made to look like you were voting for one but were really voting for another" thing. Not to mention that even without that problem......more people in the states overall voted for gore...............it's because of the electoral votes system that the MINORITY vote won. Sad country huh?

Then lets start with this last one.
Can anyone say Ohio? How about almost 200,000 (90 percent of which were believed to swing to kerry's favor...which would explain why bush and gang pushed so hard for them NOT to be counted...) ballots were NOT counted. If they were counted, and even 60 percent of them were found to favor Kerry (and as I said 90 percent were thought to have been kerry votes) Kerry would have won Ohio and won the election.

Sorry my friends, but this system is screwed up. I don't like Bush. I hate him. But if he had won it fair and square I'd concede and I'd have to stand behind him. He would be the elected leader and deserves my support. But he didn't and I won't.



Anyway. No more off topic, sorry.
Ummmmmmmm gt4 rah! rah!

There is so much wrong with this retarded post, I am tempted to just forget about it...........but I don't think I will. First off, I find it mildly amusing that you claim Bush's first election was illegitimate because he received a minority (by just 500,000 votes btw) of the popular vote, yet you would gladly give Kerry the last election even though he lost the popular vote by over 3.5 million votes! Either you like the electoral college or you don't. Can't have it both ways. Secondly, your numbers are erroneous in regards to Ohio. No LEGAL votes were thrown out in Ohio. And even if they were, 60% of 200,000 votes going to Kerry would still not have overcome Bush's 135,000 vote margin in the state. Face it, America voted and chose G.W. as our president. Just because you and your liberal fanatic buddies don't like him does not make him illegitimate.
 
Majin SSJ Eric
There is so much wrong with this retarded post, I am tempted to just forget about it...........but I don't think I will. First off, I find it mildly amusing that you claim Bush's first election was illegitimate because he received a minority (by just 500,000 votes btw) of the popular vote, yet you would gladly give Kerry the last election even though he lost the popular vote by over 3.5 million votes! Either you like the electoral college or you don't. Can't have it both ways. Secondly, your numbers are erroneous in regards to Ohio. No LEGAL votes were thrown out in Ohio. And even if they were, 60% of 200,000 votes going to Kerry would still not have overcome Bush's 135,000 vote margin in the state. Face it, America voted and chose G.W. as our president. Just because you and your liberal fanatic buddies don't like him does not make him illegitimate.

Very educated person speaking here... 👍

But to make his case worse, there weren't 200,000 votes not counted, it was only just under 155,000. So Kerry would have had to win nearly all of those. But yea, your 100% right. 👍
 
uh...shouldnt we get back on topic?...anyways WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Its out in 17 days...read it right, that SEVENTEEN!!!all my life has been elading up to this moment...or so i claim....but dammit...i have school
 
themann42
i worried that we might not even get what PAL's getting. i hope we do, but with no announcment, i don't know what to expect.

You'd think that we would get at least what PAL is getting. I mean, yes NA is getting it before them, but only by a few weeks, and there is no way PD could add even more things to the PAL....all they have to do is translate it into more languages for PAL, so that is probably why it will take longer for PAL. If we don't get the fixes, then it will be a small disappointment, but i won't really mind. I just want the game!! :dunce:
 
S31Ender
"America has a very wide variety of cultures and opinions, we're not a nation united under those that happen to be in power at the moment"


In fact. for two elections in a row now, the winner didn't actually win....................more people in America voted for Gore last election, but because of the whole ballot being lost and "some of them were made to look like you were voting for one but were really voting for another" thing. Not to mention that even without that problem......more people in the states overall voted for gore...............it's because of the electoral votes system that the MINORITY vote won. Sad country huh?

Then lets start with this last one.
Can anyone say Ohio? How about almost 200,000 (90 percent of which were believed to swing to kerry's favor...which would explain why bush and gang pushed so hard for them NOT to be counted...) ballots were NOT counted. If they were counted, and even 60 percent of them were found to favor Kerry (and as I said 90 percent were thought to have been kerry votes) Kerry would have won Ohio and won the election.

Sorry my friends, but this system is screwed up. I don't like Bush. I hate him. But if he had won it fair and square I'd concede and I'd have to stand behind him. He would be the elected leader and deserves my support. But he didn't and I won't.



Anyway. No more off topic, sorry.
Ummmmmmmm gt4 rah! rah!

Maybe he is referencing the 1992, 1996 and 2000 elections. In all three of these elections with winner had less than 50% of popular vote. But in 2004 Bush accomplished what Clinton never did, more Americans wanted him to be President than did not.

Now, the electoral college: if you get rid of it, then New York and California pick the President, and that isn't right. Think about it, its the United States of America, not the United People of America. We are a union of different states, and each state must be somewhat equalized. The electoral college offers a glorious balance of peoples and states rights. So bite me, and go vote for your Prime Minister.
 
well I just went to the Best Buy Website and they are going to sell the game on the 23rd. I wonder y on the 23rd and not on the 22nd. BASTARDS!! I wonder if thats going to be the day all the stores are going 2 sell it instead of the 22nd? :guilty:
 
Not sure if you all know but it seems the PAL release is broken up into two dates; 9th March for pre-orders and the 11th for normal sales. Is the same thing going to happen for the NA release?
 
People, you need to do something very important, and that is called reading!
The game is officially launched by SCEA on the 22nd, as in, it is no longer being held from distributors, and can potentially go on sale then, but most likely, due to shipping limitations, it is usually released the next day.
It goes on sale to the public on the 23rd, 24 hours later, live with it.
If you have a pre-order, you may or may not receive it on the 22nd.
 
Hey, now! Since when did this thread turn to politics? I thought it was to express our thoughts on the North American release of this game. So as I hear, we're getting Enthusia March 8th as Forza got delayed to May. I guess Microsoft Game Studios must be perfectionists of their own to delay their racing title.
 
Majarvis
People, you need to do something very important, and that is called reading!
The game is officially launched by SCEA on the 22nd, as in, it is no longer being held from distributors, and can potentially go on sale then, but most likely, due to shipping limitations, it is usually released the next day.
It goes on sale to the public on the 23rd, 24 hours later, live with it.
If you have a pre-order, you may or may not receive it on the 22nd.


Actually, most games get shipped on friday or saturday. I preorder Madden EVERY year (for the past 5 years) and I get to pick it up tuesday or sometimes monday night after store hours. Some stores will have someone drive to the airport to pick up the games, and then sell them after store hours that way they will go on the next days sales report (just to make it look legit).

And best buy may say it is comming out on the 23rd just to make sure they have it by that day, but more than likely they will sell it on the 22nd
 
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