Kaz responds "A Little Break" for #7 events

[66'Roadster]

Maybe theyre too busy working on GT6!

 

[mikeypm]

Just my two pence/2 cents but if you advertise something, then if you cant deliver you tell people....its called communication and in this day and age of FB/Twitter/websites,smartphones etc it shouldnt be hard to communicata, if the company I worked for did that then I think the would be issues pretty soon....I m not complaining just stating a fact

 

[will4noobs]

Just my two pence/2 cents but if you advertise something, then if you cant deliver you tell people....its called communication and in this day and age of FB/Twitter/websites,smartphones etc it shouldnt be hard to communicata, if the company I worked for did that then I think the would be issues pretty soon....I m not complaining just stating a fact

I argee

all it would take is just a simple message like:
'no seasonals this week, due for reasons x, y and z'

but noooo, 'a little break' thanks for the information Kaz

 

[WRECKU]

There is just a serious lack of communication that would never be tolerated in the business world. Beside the fact that it is annoying it is very disrespectful. But hey it's just a game.

 

[Yaycandy69]

Maybe to work on the up and comming GT5 Update.

 

[II IVORBIGUN II]

I find it hard to believe that so many people can complain about something so little. If you just paid attention to the whole picture, there is problems with GT Academy events, they are handling those and then the seasonals. Damn it is just a game! Give it a rest and race online.

Who is to blame for the farce that is GT Academy? Answer PD!

Sorry but PD are naive and inexperienced which is why GT5 is 10yrs behind the times. These days if your going to run a competition and have leaderboards then you need some kind of penalty system to prevent corner cutting, wallbashing and this penalty system needs to be throughly tested on all tracks. Now corner cutting, wallbashing isn't anything new because this occured on GT5P but unfortunately PD failed to learn from this.

I can't stand when people like yourself come on here and tell people to stop moaning. I purchased a G25/Wheelstand Pro/PS3 specfically for GT5 and yet 3 months from release my only options are grinding or racing online. The enjoyment I get from racing games is hotlapping and even without these seasonal updates it was farcical that GT5 didn't have leaderboards. Now these seasonal events haven't been updated im only left with 2 time trial leaderboards. This is pathetic in this day and age of video gaming.

 

[ElSecundo]

See the brave white knights defending a poor company...

Not hardly. I don't give two bits about PD or Kaz, but if a lack of features in a game brings out the worst in people such that they're calling for heads, they need a dose of perspective. It doesn't say good things about this 'community'.

There's a tweet referring to Kaz and/or the team taking a break, and a large group responds like spoiled brats. It's embarrassing to see that degree of whining over things so insignificant. And while they're calling for heads, they're playing the game they hate so much for 50 hours or more.

Maybe these guys should offer something constructive, if they can. Don't you think? *shrug*

 

[Fatboy-RC]

Maybe to work on the up and comming GT5 Update.

That would be my guess.
When we got the last update,maybe these were the only # of events set up on it. They probably need to let them run their course and our new setup will be in the same spot on the screen,with a new name and type of events.
Just a guess,but I hope that's it!

 

[SJames052]

There can only be so many developers working at PD. So, it wouldn't be surprising if a lot of them have been busy straightening out the GT Academy issues. There was also that survey sent out to some players not too long ago. Maybe they're working on some of those suggestions? Who knows?

 

[mekonrider]

When you're a goose that lays golden eggs you can do what you want.

I still get the feeling PD was forced to release the game for financial reasons, otherwise we'd still be waiting like Guns n Roses fans.

Kaz = Axl Rose

 

[Aus_Azn]

There can only be so many developers working at PD. So, it wouldn't be surprising if a lot of them have been busy straightening out the GT Academy issues.

That's probably it. Especially because it's descending into a complete farce now. They should just put the specially tuned cars into the Dealership and end the damn thing. Especially since it seems that the top people on the leaderboard can't be trusted.

 

[the Interceptor]

There's a tweet referring to Kaz and/or the team taking a break, and a large group responds like spoiled brats.

The problem people have with this is not that the PD staff takes a break. The problem is this:

Just posted in the News > INFORMATION section of GT5:

Our thanks to you all for you participation in the Seasonal Events!

From this point the Seasonal Events will generally be updated on Thursday every week at 04:00 (GMT).

Please note that the timing of these updates may vary by +/- 1 day, we recommend checking the distribution periods as listed in the Event list screen.

Make sure to keep an eye out for extra Special Events not included in the periodic updates! These will be notified separately in our news section.

Source: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=170020

This was on January 25th. Just a week later, Kaz twitters that they're taking a few days off, so the next update will be late. And since this is unofficial, we only know this because there are people following his account and making an effort to translate his tweets.

I would assume PD was not surprised by their own "little break". So why didn't they include this in their above message? If they need a break, by god, let them have it, they worked hard for it. But putting up an official message that seasonals will be updated weekly just to push back said update because of a needed break one week later makes very little sense.

 

[will4noobs]

+1 ^

I wish we got some official word about the delay

 

[johnw41]

+1 ^

I wish we got some official word about the delay

It would certainly be nice

 

[Rossticles]

I talked to Kaz on the phone yesterday. He said y'all should keep wasting your time speculating something no one knows.

 

[YuRiPa]

The problem people have with this is not that the PD staff takes a break. The problem is this:

Source: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=170020

This was on January 25th. Just a week later, Kaz twitters that they're taking a few days off, so the next update will be late. And since this is unofficial, we only know this because there are people following his account and making an effort to translate his tweets.

I would assume PD was not surprised by their own "little break". So why didn't they include this in their above message? If they need a break, by god, let them have it, they worked hard for it. But putting up an official message that seasonals will be updated weekly just to push back said update because of a needed break one week later makes very little sense.

Your quote already says it all to you, the GENERALLY is what you should focus on. They say they'll generally be updated on Thursday every week, but generally means that it isn't necessarily so. So, no SE's are too late, so they are not obliged to tell us anything.

And for everyone complaining, I guess you'll all be working during Christmas and New Year holidays. It's Spring Festival in Japan and China now, so don't expect anything for at least one week.

To all of you complaining:
For the rest, couldn't agree more with Freshseth83 and ElSecundo, seemingly the only rational people out here. If you all have spend so much money in-game assuming SE 7 would be launched this week, you'd better start racing again to earn your money and EXP back than complaining in this thread.

Of course PD could have handled this all better, of course the game is not perfect, but having tons of complains only threads is a bit over the top. If you're so brave, go to PD personally and tell them how they should improve the game or make your own racing game. Then you'll find out it's not all that easy. So, give them some credit and try to understand their culture too. The Japanese culture is different from the Western culture, and if Kaz only tweets in Japanese since his English is not good, if you want to understand, learn Japanese.

I too think the EXP system should have been better, at higher levels too much grinding in necessary, but then you can just take your time and do other things too, then you're just racing occasionally and GT5 will still be fun. I'm level 31 A-spec and B-spec and just race occasionally, mainly with SE's for easy EXP so I can reach the nice Endurance races like the 24h races and Nurburgring 4hr race. And I agree that there are way too less events, the number of events is much less than of previous GT's, which is a shame. But complaining all day in hundreds of threads won't help either, so better find a way to enjoy, or contact PD personally with your suggestions. For people saying the SE's are too easy, get a life instead of picking the best possible car (like taking the ZR-1 RM for the Corvette challenge). If there are restrictions, people are complaining because it's too hard, if there are no restrictions people are complaining it's too easy, seems like PD can do nothing right can they?

Can't remember EA adding free events after release of their games, all they do is release a 50% finished game for which you may buy the rest via downloads you have to pay for. PD isn't doing as bad as some of you might suggest, though they could have done better.

 

[frozzie]

I would rather wish they told me that there won't be any seasonal events than to be told nothing and not knowing what is going to happen.

Why can't they just tell us?

 

[MowTin]

+1 ^

I wish we got some official word about the delay

Yep. No company is so unprofessional as to not deliver a weekly event on time. Any company that delivers something on a weekly basis usually has content for many weeks in advance.

If PD didn't update the seasonal events on time then its because they ran into some kind of problem. They didn't tell us when the update would come because they don't know and they don't want to give another wrong date.

Let's face it, PD is not well managed. Remember we were supposed to have a damage update for Prologue. Then all the release delays.

I work in software and so I know that delivering well tested products on time, estimating properly and remaining within budget is the sign of good project management.

 

[speedracer_-44]

a simple news update stating "seasonal events postponed until further notice" would end ~95% of the complaining. But to leave people hanging after the last news is pretty sad.

 

[EnzoDBR9]

Awesome videogame devolpers need vacations too

 

[speedracer_-44]

Awesome videogame devolpers need vacations too

I don't think anyone has said that they don't.

 

[iLex]

Yep. No company is so unprofessional as to not deliver a weekly event on time. Any company that delivers something on a weekly basis usually has content for many weeks in advance.

If PD didn't update the seasonal events on time then its because they ran into some kind of problem. They didn't tell us when the update would come because they don't know and they don't want to give another wrong date.

Let's face it, PD is not well managed. Remember we were supposed to have a damage update for Prologue. Then all the release delays.

I work in software and so I know that delivering well tested products on time, estimating properly and remaining within budget is the sign of good project management.

This.
If I ran my business the way PD is doing right now I'd be out of work. Only a select few companies can afford to break promises and sadly PD seems to be one of them
I am not saying I feel that they should give us more content or whatnot, but it would be nice if they kept their promises.

 

[the Interceptor]

Your quote already says it all to you, the GENERALLY is what you should focus on. They say they'll generally be updated on Thursday every week, but generally means that it isn't necessarily so.

In my opinion, "generally" has a different context here. They say that they will generally update the events every week. They also give out the margin of +/- one day. And they add that there might be extra events on top of that. These very precise informations don't sound at all to me like they "might" give us an update every week, which is what you are implying if I understood you correctly.

So, no SE's are too late, so they are not obliged to tell us anything.

They are not obliged to tell us anything either way. But it would be considered good form if they would. There is very little communication with the customers anyway. So if they step forward and give out a precise schedule of how the seasonal events will be handled in the future, do you think it is too much to ask of them to inform their customers that there will be a break of a few days? I don't mind the break itself at all, I'm just saying they should have told us when they were giving out information about this anyway. I don't even want to know why there is a break. They could just say that they'll skip this week and continue as planned next week.

If you're so brave, go to PD personally and tell them how they should improve the game or make your own racing game.

Unfortunately, there is no way to contact PD directly. They don't have known e-mail adresses one can write to. People have written letters to their postal adress, but they never received an answer. There is no forum through which PD can be contacted. The only known way to talk to PD right now is to twitter Kaz, which is unofficial as well as quite limited.

Also, the "why don't you go and make a better game" argument has been brought up before. If you take a step back and think about it, it is a pretty weak one. A bad product is a bad product. Does the fact that I can't make a better version with my own hands mean that I mustn't complain about it? If so, I mustn't complain about anything in my life anymore and just take everything as it is.

If there are restrictions, people are complaining because it's too hard, if there are no restrictions people are complaining it's too easy, seems like PD can do nothing right can they?

They could do it right if they wanted to: leave the seasonals unrestricted, but add a set of optional limits to possible modifications of the car. These limits should put you in a situation similar to the first set of restricted events. Put a little credit/XP bonus on meeting those limits. A win win situation.

 

[MowTin]

Awesome videogame devolpers need vacations too

Businesses plan their vacations. Imagine going to the grocery store on Saturday morning and seeing a sign "Sorry, on vacation, taking a break." It's ridiculous.

They obviously ran into a technical problem and they don't have any idea when it will be resolved. Most likely it has to do with bundling the "Driver's Club" with the season event update.

These should have been separate and independent tasks.

 

[Icarus25]

Maybe these guys should offer something constructive, if they can. Don't you think? *shrug*

Ah if only that were possible. It seems rational thought is not a strong point for ~90% of the people in here. I think this thread is better suited to the Rumble Strip because it's sure got a ton of humor and little GT5. It's so amusing seeing well thought out, constructive, rational points be countered by ignorant whining and cliched arguments. The disappointment is that PD hasn't said anything, everyone is agreement on that.

Not everyone plays the game the same way. I know, it's such a shocking revelation. If GT is your life and you think you're being cheated because you have nothing to do, go ahead and complain, but at least do it with some integrity. There's too much infantile crying going on. No one cares if you spent $110 or whatever for the Collector's Edition and you think it's only worth $2.50. No one told you to spend that much. It's just a game, not a necessity. PD fell short, the game has flaws, it is unquestionable...but it sure as hell isn't Armageddon.

I'm sorry if people have trouble finding others to race online or think the online is broken, because that sure hasn't been my experience. Other than the Watch Race freezing bug and enough random disconnects to count on one hand, I haven't hand any issues with the online. I've found at least 3 regularly open rooms with good, clean drivers to race with along with the group I race with from here on GTP. I'm wondering how many people with supposed problems finding people either don't take the time to look through the rooms, or coordinate with people on here. Or just have this highly elevated view of just how awesome they think they are and are above all "normal" opponents.

I've come to realize why there is such a lack of respect and maturity in here. It seems that the rational people took a look, facepalmed, and left. Which is probably what I should have done instead of trying to rationalize with, and enlighten, people so bitter and jaded that their minds are closed off to everything other than "Burn PD! Fire Kaz! I'm never buying another GT game again!" until 6 is announced and they'll be the first ones here stating their anticipation and talking about their pre-orders.

And with that said, au revoir.

 

[YuRiPa]

In my opinion, "generally" has a different context here. They say that they will generally update the events every week. They also give out the margin of +/- one day. And they add that there might be extra events on top of that. These very precise informations don't sound at all to me like they "might" give us an update every week, which is what you are implying if I understood you correctly.

Yep, you understood me correctly. Now you mention it the way you do, I guess you're right. Though we'll never know the exact meaning of "generally" here, only PD knows, hehe.

They are not obliged to tell us anything either way. But it would be considered good form if they would. There is very little communication with the customers anyway. So if they step forward and give out a precise schedule of how the seasonal events will be handled in the future, do you think it is too much to ask of them to inform their customers that there will be a break of a few days? I don't mind the break itself at all, I'm just saying they should have told us when they were giving out information about this anyway. I don't even want to know why there is a break. They could just say that they'll skip this week and continue as planned next week.

Couldn't agree more with you here.

Unfortunately, there is no way to contact PD directly. They don't have known e-mail adresses one can write to. People have written letters to their postal adress, but they never received an answer. There is no forum through which PD can be contacted. The only known way to talk to PD right now is to twitter Kaz, which is unofficial as well as quite limited.

That's crazy, no email adresses to contact them. Never knew that. Tell your thoughts via Twitter indeed is pretty limited, unless you can speak Japanese. Hope the survey they're doing (or planning to do) among selected GT5 players will help improving the game.

Also, the "why don't you go and make a better game" argument has been brought up before. If you take a step back and think about it, it is a pretty weak one. A bad product is a bad product. Does the fact that I can't make a better version with my own hands mean that I mustn't complain about it? If so, I mustn't complain about anything in my life anymore and just take everything as it is.

You're right on this one too. It's just, some people only complain and complain, no constructive posts, that got to me a bit. But would GT5 really be such a bad product? I know it could have been so much better but to say it's really bad, dunno. Let's say it's just average (about a score of 6 out of 10), since it's not the worst, but it could have and should have so much better.

They could do it right if they wanted to: leave the seasonals unrestricted, but add a set of optional limits to possible modifications of the car. These limits should put you in a situation similar to the first set of restricted events. Put a little credit/XP bonus on meeting those limits. A win win situation.

That's a good idea. Maybe you should be on the GT6 development team.

 

[eSZee]

The problem people have with this is not that the PD staff takes a break. The problem is this:

Source: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=170020

I see. That indeed is the problem. Generally does not mean it's guaranteed.
I think "usually" gives a more assuring feeling than "generally" even though they are basically the same word.
In the end we can come up with our own meanings as to what they meant. Kaz and them doesn't seem to think they did anything wrong so generally must've meant exactly what it should mean.

 

[squishydk]

From Twitter in response to the question on when the #7 events will be up.

ちょっと一休み。(A Little Break) RT @anthonyputson: @Kaz_Yamauchi Kaz, will the new seasonal events be up soon?

What "A little break" means is anyones guess.

Wow... (z)Jordan made a new post

on-topic, I can see why people find it irritating, but in all fairness, PD isn't known for a picture perfect schedule. It can hardly be surprising to anyone, and myabe we will even get some extra new stuff next time instead, who knows?

I have startet a new save where i only allow myself to buy first car, and other than that only use the ones i win from events. (Higly recomendable) That also means i can't use the Season thingy anywyas, so I'll manage a few months more

 

[Unidos]

There over ambitious and should've never made GT5 without all cars being premium, GT5 was a waste of my money.

 

[WeeblBull]

Gt5 might have been over ambitious in it's scope and possibly a waste of some money for the developer considering the development time (which is what I assume you are referring to) but let's not get negative about the whole thing.

I think PD definitely need more staff and a better project leader. I remember when I saw the first ending movie in the game I thought "there must be more key staff than this?". Other games of this generation with the scope of GT5 have many more programmers and even modellers. They need to address this quite quickly IMO.