Le Mans 2010 and GT5

[Sam48]

3d trees!?

Errrrrr...sure. If it makes you happy.

@Stevisiov- Yes, but I was just referring to the situation which I presented. I already knew the result of the first one.

 

[aurelio_911]

3d trees!?

Get out! lol

 

[Dijital Majik]

it was a freak incident that's happened maybe twice.

Off the top of my head, I can think of at least four occassions that it happened (3 times the Merc CLR, and the above Porsche 911 GT1).
But I agree with your overall point, it was down to bad design and lack of wind tunnel testing. I couldn't see it happening to a modern LMP.

Also, back on topic, the 908 has Michelin logos on the tyres, is this the first time in a GT game? I remember there were rumours of PD collecting detailed tyre data, and this might support that.

 

[analog]

Also, back on topic, the 908 has Michelin logos on the tyres, is this the first time in a GT game? I remember there were rumours of PD collecting detailed tyre data, and this might support that.

Could be just another sponsor thing and I wouldn't see too much into it ( although I'd love to be wrong on this one ).

 

[muln]

The "premium" icon was also on the Nordschleife-Demo. Maybe it fits with the 24h-race day/night cycle.

 

[RACECAR]

Off the top of my head, I can think of at least four occassions that it happened (3 times the Merc CLR, and the above Porsche 911 GT1).
But I agree with your overall point, it was down to bad design and lack of wind tunnel testing. I couldn't see it happening to a modern LMP.

Also, back on topic, the 908 has Michelin logos on the tyres, is this the first time in a GT game? I remember there were rumours of PD collecting detailed tyre data, and this might support that.

If I recall, I think Michelin was already on various cars before.

 

[chrisrar]

premium tracks made fresh for gt5. normal tracks from existing tracks updated to fit alongside new tracks...higher resolution textures, more geometry etc.

id imagine all tracks having same day night cycle features and weather....else its not gonna feel right.

 

[Racin'Jason]

changing day night cycle would mean adjustable headlights too? driving La Sarthe at night with no headlights would be impossible....

 

[JetStar]

What if a modern day LMP1 car got turned around at top speed? wouldn't all the areo parts suddenly start working in reverse, causing the car to flip up backwards into the air?

It happens in NASCAR, and they have half the downforce and weigh about 1250lbs more.

Check out Stephane Ortelli's crash at Monza.

 

[Watevaman]

I don't think the aero working backwards has as much to do with them getting air as does the fact that the bottom is pretty flat so it catches the smallest amount of air and multiplies it as the angle increases.

 

[scope72]

changing day night cycle would mean adjustable headlights too? driving La Sarthe at night with no headlights would be impossible....

Headlights have been shown in the night racing trailer.👍

 

[Sam48]

Check out Stephane Ortelli's crash at Monza.

That was actually an LMP2 car, not an LMP1. The LMP2's are lighter, but I bet a similar incident would have occurred had it been an LMP1 car.

@Wateverman- The flat underside is only half if it. The other half is the spoiler. If a small spoiler can flip a 1.6ton NASCAR SC when it goes backwards, I bet it'll send and LMP1 car to the moon.

 

[tlongman]

umm... No. It actually WAS an LMP1 car.

 

[RACECAR]

That was actually an LMP2 car, not an LMP1.

That was a LMP1 car. The Courage-Oreca Aim car was in LMP1 only.

 

[mykem]

Here's the top speed of the competing cars at this year's Le Mans taken during the Free Practice:

24 Heures du Mans
Free Practice
Best speed
# N¡ Class Team Vehicle Driver Lap Speed (Km/h)
1 3 LMP1 Peugeot Sport Total Peugeot 908 HDi - FAP LAMY Pedro 34 348
2 7 LMP1 Audi Sport Team Joest Audi R15 TDI CAPELLO Dindo 23 348
3 2 LMP1 Team Peugeot Total Peugeot 908 HDi - FAP MONTAGNY Franck 52 345
4 1 LMP1 Team Peugeot Total Peugeot 908 HDi - FAP GENE Marc 32 345
5 9 LMP1 Audi Sport North America Audi R15 TDI BERNHARD Timo 39 344
6 4 LMP1 Team Oreca Matmut Peugeot 908 HDi - FAP PANIS Olivier 39 344
7 009 LMP1 Aston Martin Racing Lola Aston Martin BARAZI Juan 23 342
8 008 LMP1 Signature Plus Lola Aston Martin RAGUES Pierre 43 341
9 8 LMP1 Audi Sport Team Joest Audi R15 TDI FAESSLER Marcel 26 337
10 007 LMP1 Aston Martin Racing Lola Aston Martin 336
11 15 LMP1 Kolles Audi R10 TDI ALBERS Christjan 40 331
12 13 LMP1 Rebellion Racing Lola Rebellion Coupe BELICCHI Andrea 8 329
13 12 LMP1 Rebellion Racing Lola Rebellion Coupe PROST Nicolas 28 328
14 6 LMP1 AIM Team Oreca Matmut Oreca 01 - AIM AYARI Soheil 37 327
15 14 LMP1 Kolles Audi R10 TDI BOUCHUT Christophe 10 326
16 5 LMP1 Beechdean Mansell Ginetta - Zytek 09S MANSELL Nigel 41 324
17 11 LMP1 Drayson Racing Lola Judd Coupe DRAYSON Paul 15 324
18 25 LMP2 RML Lola HPD Coupe ERDOS Tommy 12 309
19 42 LMP2 Strakka Racing HPD ARX.01 LEVENTIS Nick 36 307
20 26 LMP2 Highcroft Racing HPD ARX.01 BRABHAM David 27 306
21 29 LMP2 Racing Box Lola Judd PIRRI Luca 24 304
22 35 LMP2 OAK Racing Pescarolo - Judd LAHAYE Matthieu 16 299
23 41 LMP2 Team Bruichladdich Ginetta - Zytek 09S OJJEH Karim 42 298
24 40 LMP2 Quifel - Asm Team Ginetta - Zytek 09S AMARAL Miguel 13 297
25 19 LMP1 Autocon Motorsports Lola AER LEWIS Michael 1 296
26 61 LMGT1 Matech Competition Ford GT Matech GACHNANG Natacha 7 293
27 60 LMGT1 Matech Competition Ford GT Matech MUTSCH Thomas 7 292
28 72 LMGT1 Luc Alphand Aventures Corvette C6.R POLICAND Jerome 20 292
29 24 LMP2 OAK Racing Pescarolo - Judd NICOLET Jacques 20 292
30 77 LMGT2 Team Felbermayr Proton Porsche 997 GT3 RSR LIEB Marc 18 291
31 64 LMGT2 Corvette Racing Corvette C6 ZR1 GAVIN Oliver 20 291
32 70 LMGT1 Marc VDS Racing Ford GT Matech LEINDERS Bas 6 291
33 39 LMP2 KSM Lola Judd NODA Hideki 18 291
34 63 LMGT2 Corvette Racing Corvette C6 ZR1 O CONNEL Johnny 6 291
35 97 LMGT2 BMS Scuderia Italia Porsche 997 GT3 RSR HOLZER Marco 35 290
36 50 LMGT1 Larbre Competition Saleen S7R GARDEL Gabriele 20 290
37 73 LMGT1 Luc Alphand Aventures Corvette C6.R JOUSSE Julien 11 288
38 82 LMGT2 Risi Competizione Ferrari F430 GT KAFFER Pierre 18 288
39 96 LMGT2 AF Corse Ferrari F430 GT PEREZ COMPANC Luis 32 287
40 80 LMGT2 Flying Lizard Motorsports Porsche 997 GT3 RSR NEIMAN Seth 18 287
41 95 LMGT2 AF Corse Ferrari F430 GT ALESI Jean 19 286
42 89 LMGT2 Hankook Team Farnbacher Ferrari F430 GT FARNBACHER Dominik 29 286
43 76 LMGT2 IMSA Performance Matmut Porsche 997 GT3 RSR PILET Patrick 34 286
44 83 LMGT2 Risi Competizione Ferrari F430 GT KROHN Tracy 24 285
45 78 LMGT2 BMW Team Schnitzer BMW M3 MULLER Jorg 9 284
46 37 LMP2 WR / Salini WR Zytek SALINI Philippe 6 283
47 88 LMGT2 Team Felbermayr Proton Porsche 997 GT3 RSR FELBERMAYR Horst Jr 28 282
48 85 LMGT2 Spyker Squadron Spyker C8 Laviolette DUMBRECK Peter 30 282
49 79 LMGT2 BMW Team Schnitzer BMW M3 PRIAULX Andy 8 282
50 75 LMGT2 Prospeed Competition Porsche 997 GT3 RSR VAN SPLUNTEREN Paul 25 282
51 36 LMP2 Pegasus Racing Courage - Oreca LC75 SCHELL Julien 17 280
52 69 LMGT1 JLOC Lamborghini Murcielago YOGO Atsushi 10 277
53 81 LMGT2 Jaguar RSR Jaguar XKR GT2 GOOSSENS Marc 3 273
54 92 LMGT2 JMW Motorsport Aston Martin Vantage BELL Robert 7 268
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[Sam48]

I think I get it now guys.

 

[gtone339]

I don't want to see this in GT5.

 

[CodeRedR51]

So let's be honest here. Who else on here fired up GT4 to take some laps around de la Sarthe after the 24 hour race was over?

 

[MichaelDelaney]

So let's be honest here. Who else on here fired up GT4 to take some laps around de la Sarthe after the 24 hour race was over?

I did! Jag, Audi, and Pug 905

 

[CodeRedR51]

I'm a little less brave. LOL. The Motul Pitwork 350Z was my weapon of choice.

 

[zevehcj]

So let's be honest here. Who else on here fired up GT4 to take some laps around de la Sarthe after the 24 hour race was over?

I did as well. Took the gt-one out for a couple of laps and did a 3:32 around the Sarthe( super hard tires all aids off and manual transmission). I also did a few laps with the Mclaren F1 race car and Oreca team Viper gts-r. GT4 still looks great after all these years.

 

[SavageEvil]

It's been a while since I hauled keister down the Hunaudaires in GT4. Anyone else notice that the G25 FF damn near rips your arms off in GT4, why is GT5 Prologue so tame in comparison? Heading to the Nürburgring for some much needed nostalgia, my sweet bumps how I have missed you...for in GT5 you are no longer part of my life.

 

[kikifq]

lol yeah i took the Audi r8 .. for a few laps around the track .. gosh FF on the g25 is insane .. im not very good at the game with the wheel .. i spent most of my time crashing due to them awesome bumps .. i ended up downgrading to a Holden CV8 .. least then i stayed on track

 

[alucard0712]

About "wrong" top speed in GT5.
First of all - tyres.
Second - tuning,gear ratios.I really doubt that stock LMP Pugeot in GT5 tuned same way as real.
Third - weather,wind.

 

[AleksandarSRB]

About "wrong" top speed in GT5.
First of all - tyres.
Second - tuning,gear ratios.I really doubt that stock LMP Pugeot in GT5 tuned same way as real.
Third - weather,wind.

Big difference is aerodynamics (adjustment of front and rear wing) and tires ofcourse!!

 

[Aloha62_2]

The demo not having the correct engine characteristics probably due to being made in short order makes trying to judge the top speed guess work at best.

If GT5 full has the same car with the same incorrect stats then that would be a real issue.

Personally iam more interested to see if they have the McLaren F1 correct.

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

So let's be honest here. Who else on here fired up GT4 to take some laps around de la Sarthe after the 24 hour race was over?

Guilty, Pescarolo, while the race was on, got a 3'19.500, sweet

@post above, what's incorrect? the speed? All you need to do is take some wing off and the speed will rise, so what's the problem?

 

[JetStar]

About "wrong" top speed in GT5.
First of all - tyres.
Second - tuning,gear ratios.I really doubt that stock LMP Pugeot in GT5 tuned same way as real.
Third - weather,wind.

I agree that tyres might have an effect, but not the set up of the car. In real life at a track like Le Mans, surely the car would be geared for a high top speed for the very long straights, therefore at the peak of the car's performance. And I think there must have been a very strong wind in the demo, based on the slipstream we saw.

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

I agree that tyres might have an effect, but not the set up of the car. In real life at a track like Le Mans, surely the car would be geared for a high top speed for the very long straights, therefore at the peak of the car's performance. And I think there must have been a very strong wind in the demo, based on the slipstream we saw.

You seriously think the tyres have a greater effect on the top speed of a car as opposed to the gearing, downforce levels, etc ?

I think you maybe should do some research into race car setup.

Tyres make you go around corners faster, they don't make you go faster down straights.

More downforce makes you go around corners faster, and slows you down on the straights.

 

[alucard0712]

Personally iam more interested to see if they have the McLaren F1 correct.

And make rear spoiler works!