Logitech G27 Guide

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Hi guys, can someone with a G27 tell me if there is a strong constant centering force in the wheel when playing GT5?

I have a MOMO, which "works," except for this centering force that I find really annoying. It's like no matter what is happening with the car, the wheel always wants to return to the neutral position. A good test is this: while the car is stopped, turn the wheel all the way to one side and let go of it. Does the wheel stay in the turned position, or does it immediately return to center? I think it should stay in the turned position, but the MOMO doesn't.

It's annoying enough to me that I would consider getting a G27 if it doesn't have the same problem, but I'd like to confirm that it doesn't before I spend all that money!

Thanks!
 
Unbelievable, there is still too much confusion going on.

Can someone with 100% working G27 and some common sense confirm what works and what not and what can be configured via DFP configuration options.

And please, before you turn on your PS3, make sure the G27 is connected to PS3 and its power supply is in wall socket and connected to the wheel. Thanks.
 
JetJaguar2000
Hi guys, can someone with a G27 tell me if there is a strong constant centering force in the wheel when playing GT5?

I have a MOMO, which "works," except for this centering force that I find really annoying. It's like no matter what is happening with the car, the wheel always wants to return to the neutral position. A good test is this: while the car is stopped, turn the wheel all the way to one side and let go of it. Does the wheel stay in the turned position, or does it immediately return to center? I think it should stay in the turned position, but the MOMO doesn't.

It's annoying enough to me that I would consider getting a G27 if it doesn't have the same problem, but I'd like to confirm that it doesn't before I spend all that money!

Thanks!
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you realize a real car does this right?
 
novcze
Unbelievable, there is still too much confusion going on.

Can someone with 100% working G27 and some common sense confirm what works and what not and what can be configured via DFP configuration options.

And please, before you turn on your PS3, make sure the G27 is connected to PS3 and its power supply is in wall socket and connected to the wheel. Thanks.
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not sure if I meet your requirements about common sense but I do have a working G27 and double checked everything. I tried many things in DFP 1 and 2; but I can't remap any button. I also defaulted before mapping all L and R buttons to 'Change View' but all buttons stayed with their default function. Until someone proofs the opposite I say the G27 buttons can't be remapped with the DFP configuration. 👎
I haven't tried any other wheels in the option menu; the hope dies last.

On a positive note the clutch works fine, gets activated by using it and deactivated by using the paddle shifters.
 
novcze
Unbelievable, there is still too much confusion going on.

Can someone with 100% working G27 and some common sense confirm what works and what not and what can be configured via DFP configuration options.

And please, before you turn on your PS3, make sure the G27 is connected to PS3 and its power supply is in wall socket and connected to the wheel. Thanks.
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The wheel cannot be reconfigure right now, trust me I tried everything.
Horn and Wiper don't work, so are R3 and L3.
On the steering wheel, the top left is Rear View, top right is High/Low beam (the rest are useless).
O is hand brake and triangle is Reverse. X and [] do nothing.
H-shifter and clutch works great. The car can be put in N and Reverse with the shifter.
Paddles work but you can't put the car in Neutral or Reverse.
I think it's a bug that you can't put the car in N or R with paddles, they worked in GT5P and GT4.
 
I am a Logitech G27 owner and here are my insights regarding the wheel.

1) I have the same issue with shifting from first to second gear with the stick. the game won't let you throw from first to second as you would in a real car. you have to shift to neutral and then shift to second (a two-step process).

2) I actually own and have raced a manual Mazda RX-8 (the exact same car in GT5) in real life and can say that the car is extremely easy to manage if you lose traction, (which happens a lot since the car by nature, is tail happy) however while using a g27 wheel, if you lose traction in an RX-8 or pretty much any FR car you cannot counter- steer to correct it an you will spin out. What is worse is that if you are in any event with competing drivers and you manage to get tapped by another car the same thing will happen. It is just too damn easy to lose control of a car if it loses traction! It is very aggravating. I completely own at Gran Turismo in general when using a controller. The reason is pretty much because I have played all the games in the series and own most of them. However, the minute I plug in the wheel, the most I can hope for is to win a few Beginner events, because I end up spinning out and getting passed by everyone. I am not sure if it is the fault of Logitech for making a crappy wheel or the game developer. GT5P was horrid with the spinning out issue, GT5 seems to be much better but the problem exists. NFS-Shift also is compatible with the wheel and the problem persists but to a much lesser degree.
 
Hi, first time poster here.

I am using the G27 and it has been working fine so far, except for one thing (there's always a catch!).

When approaching a corner I feel the wheel is self-steering slightly, subtly aiming me towards the apex. I can also feel the wheel trying to countersteer when I lose control as if there is some sort of assistance on. I have switched all of the assists off, skid recovery included but the problem remains.

Does anyone else suffer from this problem? Is there a setting I'm not aware of in a hidden sub menu somewhere? Otherwise, how do you turn off the force feedback in the G27 to eliminate this problem? It is not a gamebreaker but it is still very annoying.

Any help would be great, thanks.
 
Pac1Man
Hi, first time poster here.

I am using the G27 and it has been working fine so far, except for one thing (there's always a catch!).

When approaching a corner I feel the wheel is self-steering slightly, subtly aiming me towards the apex. I can also feel the wheel trying to countersteer when I lose control as if there is some sort of assistance on. I have switched all of the assists off, skid recovery included but the problem remains.

Does anyone else suffer from this problem? Is there a setting I'm not aware of in a hidden sub menu somewhere? Otherwise, how do you turn off the force feedback in the G27 to eliminate this problem? It is not a gamebreaker but it is still very annoying.

Any help would be great, thanks.
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under options go to the wheels setting and make sure that the steering assistance is set to "off"
 
Pac1Man
Hi, first time poster here.

I am using the G27 and it has been working fine so far, except for one thing (there's always a catch!).

When approaching a corner I feel the wheel is self-steering slightly, subtly aiming me towards the apex. I can also feel the wheel trying to countersteer when I lose control as if there is some sort of assistance on. I have switched all of the assists off, skid recovery included but the problem remains.

Does anyone else suffer from this problem? Is there a setting I'm not aware of in a hidden sub menu somewhere? Otherwise, how do you turn off the force feedback in the G27 to eliminate this problem? It is not a gamebreaker but it is still very annoying.

Any help would be great, thanks.
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It is possible I guess that in the main options menu, under Steering Options, you have your wheel set to "Amateur" ? There are also "Professional" and "Simulation" settings.

Also, I do not recall being able to shift to reverse with the paddles on my G25 in Prologue, and I played that for nearly 3 years every day 👍

All the best
Maz
 
Pac1Man
When approaching a corner I feel the wheel is self-steering slightly, subtly aiming me towards the apex. I can also feel the wheel trying to countersteer when I lose control as if there is some sort of assistance on. I have switched all of the assists off, skid recovery included but the problem remains.

Does anyone else suffer from this problem? Is there a setting I'm not aware of in a hidden sub menu somewhere? Otherwise, how do you turn off the force feedback in the G27 to eliminate this problem? It is not a gamebreaker but it is still very annoying.

Any help would be great, thanks.
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Not sure about the turn in bit, but you will get a feeling that the steering is self correcting when the car oversteers... this is similar to what you feel in real life. RWD cars with well set up steering will want to counter steer when the car is oversteering... your job is to decide how much counter steer is needed, to balance the throttle input to the amount of opposite lock and to wind the lock off as the slide ends.
 
Thanks for the quick replies. I checked my steering settings and I definately have it on 'Simulation'. I even put th 'Force Feedback' setting to it's lowest but the feedback feels unchanged. I'm guessing this is because the wheel is not officially supported and therefore the settings have no effect.

@Stotty - I understand what you're saying about the oversteer but I carried out a little test to make sure it wasn't that. I basically pointed the car towards a wall and started to slowly creep towards it with my hands off the wheel. The wheel then started to automatically turn away from the wall and back onto the track. It's really strange.

I'm suprised nobody else has reported this problem. Nothing is ever straight forward is it?!
 
Purpose of the force feedback is to give you information about what is going on with the car as whole (weight shifts, traction, etc.), it's not like in real car, therefore observing behavior of the wheel without your hands on it can be misleading.
 
novcze
Purpose of the force feedback is to give you information about what is going on with the car as whole (weight shifts, traction, etc.), it's not like in real car, therefore observing behavior of the wheel without your hands on it can be misleading.
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True but the wheel movements are obviously trying to steer me in the right direction. However after playing some more, I realised that it only happens in arcade mode. In GT Mode the wheel behaves as it should which is a relief. Still strange though.
 
I wanted the G27, it was the only thing I didnt get before the game got here. But reading all this, should I just buy the cheaper DFGT that was meant for PS3, since the G27 isnt perfectly matched for the game?
 
Does anybody besides me completely suck at driving with the G27 steering wheel compared to using the controller? I can control drifts, and even spinouts with the controller so that I quickly regain traction and speed with the controller no problem. When I switch over to the wheel, the slightest bump of an opponent or a wheel going on the grass and I lose total control to the car I am driving.
 
AGNT009
I wanted the G27, it was the only thing I didnt get before the game got here. But reading all this, should I just buy the cheaper DFGT that was meant for PS3, since the G27 isnt perfectly matched for the game?
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I'm wondering the same thing. I have the MOMO now, which works reasonably well, but it has some issues in GT5 that I find annoying, so I'm really on the fence about whether the jump to a G25/G27 is worth the cost if I'm only going to use it for GT5 (and whatever else comes out on PS3). Or would it be better to just get the officially supported wheel?

Overall are people pleased with the G27 in GT5? Say, $300 pleased? Heh.

Thanks!
 
Strata-R
Does anybody besides me completely suck at driving with the G27 steering wheel compared to using the controller? I can control drifts, and even spinouts with the controller so that I quickly regain traction and speed with the controller no problem. When I switch over to the wheel, the slightest bump of an opponent or a wheel going on the grass and I lose total control to the car I am driving.
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Ive always felt these games are just easier with a controller. It's easier to have total control with a little analog stick that you dont need to move much, and your reactions can be quick because there is less input needed from an analog stick, whereas with a wheel obviously turning it left and right takes a little longer than it would with a stick.

If I end up in a crazy tail spin I can recover easily with a stick, but with a wheel I really struggle with it. I just use my G25 sometimes for immersion, but if I want to win I use the controller.
 
AGNT009
I wanted the G27, it was the only thing I didnt get before the game got here. But reading all this, should I just buy the cheaper DFGT that was meant for PS3, since the G27 isnt perfectly matched for the game?
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It depends how serious you are about racing games. For me, the G27 makes it - the feel of the wheel and the peddles is enough (plus usable paddle shifters). If you just want a wheel for fun but are considering, even for a moment, using the DS3 at any point then you'll probably be fine with the DFGT & spending the difference on something else.
 
JetJaguar2000
Overall are people pleased with the G27 in GT5? Say, $300 pleased? Heh.
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I can't really answer your question because I don't know how the MOMO is.
But yes, I am very pleased with the G27. $300 pleased? I don't know.
But it feels great, it drives great.

I would never drive with a controller. I sincerely doubt that I could get better lap times with a controller, but maybe other people can. But for me it makes no sense to drive an advanced racing game like GT5 with a controller. Feeling the car pulling on the wheel, right before you lose grip... I just can't get enough of it. :)

P.S. This is my opinion on what feels right for me. Other people have obviously different ideas.
 
Subaru_AWD
does the G25 work fine?
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Both G25 and G27 work fine.

The only thing not working is all 6 extra buttons on G27, they all act as the same button. And you have to map the buttons as another wheel, but that's it.


For me, the wheel is the way to go, ever since i tried driving with it, the controller just doesn't cut it any more. G27 was well worth the money in my book, since I like the feel of it - it's not toyish or plastic-y 👍
 
Er.. can we talk about Active/Dead Zone control a bit please?
My G27 rocks, the feel if it is lovely. Better than Forza 3 with the M$ wheel. But 900 degrees is not what I want, and adjusting brake pedal pressure is all pretty standard stuff for racing games surely?

Obviously it's not there now, but what's the realistic chance of this being a patch?
 
ig88
..., and adjusting brake pedal pressure is all pretty standard stuff for racing games surely?

Obviously it's not there now, but what's the realistic chance of this being a patch?
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You can always lower the brake pressure in the car setup. I've mostly gone from the default five to three or even two, depending on the car.
 

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