Lots of Games have it Now. Should GT 5 have a Rewind Option?

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 5' started by Simple SIM, Sep 25, 2009.

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Gameplay Rewind Feature. Opinions.

  1. I will only buy GT5 if it makes it into the game.

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  2. Yes, it should be in GT5.

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  3. I don't care if it is included, nor if it isn't.

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  4. No, it shouldn't be in GT5.

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  5. I won't buy GT5 if it makes it into the game.

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  6. I would never use it if it's in the game.

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  7. I would use it only during practice.

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  8. I would use it only during races.

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  9. I would use it in both modes (racing and practice).

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  10. Other (explain).

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  1. Smoke&Slide

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    A good idea ( not rewind feature for GT games ) would be your car is placed back on the track ( if undamaged & right way up ), because you can't get out of the kitty litter.If bad damage happens & cant participate in the race, because of a roll over, hitting a wall or another immovable object, another car ( or combination of them ) or mechanical failure then you are out of the race & the race continues.

    P.s if you use all the fuel, then the engine cuts out & you coast the car on the track, and you are out of the race if you don't reach a pitstop.
     
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  2. vaioleto

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    My whole point is that rewinding negates the ability for people to use GT to learn driving, since they'll just play it like an arcade racer and rewind every time they mess up and not bother to learn from their mistakes because they'll be going 300mph into the next corner anticipating the next rewind.

    I always thought of GT as a learning tool and not something I can play pretend-racecar driver with, but rewind totally negates it.

    Just use restart option then.

    And no, rewinding =/= restart, maybe in your zone right now it is, but you will soon see the folly of your ways.
     
  3. Simple SIM

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    I find this all fairly amazing.

    Some people oppose a rewind feature only to go play GT and click on restart race.

    They claim they want it to simulate real life as much as possible but think the idea of damaging your car is overrated.

    Maybe when you play GT it should be hooked up to your bank account and when you crash your car you have to pay for the repairs with real money. Would that be enough simulation for you? :sly:
     
  4. McLaren

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    Sorry, that's your opinion, and it doesn't speak for the rest of us.
    Forza's rewind is there only if you use it. You don't have to use it.

    But, such a simple concept seems beyond that of many.
     
  5. Coiler

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    Yep, and that way should it stay...
     
  6. Stonemonkey

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    Can we have a "I win" button alongside "start race" option too?
     
  7. Exorcet

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    Incorrect. The point of rewind is to give you complete focus on one aspect of your drive (like a certain corner) You will be in the exact same position as you were in before your mistake. Now when you rewind into the exact spot, you change variables, and learn. This gives you far more accuracy in recreating a situation than restarting.

    And think about it, if you rewind and do the exact same thing (ie crash) how will it help you? You're not thinking it out.

    And one good thing about rewind is it's impossible online, where the real racing is.
     
  8. alfy13

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    sounds like you need a game that fits you. i dotn want PD to waste time implenting rewind, when they can be doing something else.
     
  9. vaioleto

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    Rewind feature won't improve my driving skills, fact.

    When practicing, if I mess up, I'll just keep going. If you argue that rewind should be in RACES then I don't know what to say to you, because you're a cheater. A car having control over space time continuum to gain the upper hand during a race isn't the same with a car just like everyone else that restarts on the same grounds as the rest.
     
  10. Hun200kmh

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    You already have that. Use B-Spec and come back later.
     
  11. Kinetic

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    It's just not GT, i have a few friends who were dissapointed that F3 has got the rewind feature also, and im guessing quite alot more feel the same.

    Restarting a race is so much different to rewinding, you screw the last corner up in a race and you restart it's all gone just the same as if you screw up and then get to the finish line in last, however just going back and rewinding takes away the whole risk element. Yes you dont have to use it, but when you know you can sometimes it just overrides
     
  12. Simple SIM

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    You quoted my post, but in no way responded to it.
     
  13. zuggerat

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    So, you're saying that people won't use the rewind feature? I find that hard to believe.

    Exactly.
     
  14. Simple SIM

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    If you had the ability to turn of the rewind feature before you started a race so that you couldn't use it, would you have any problem with it then?
     
  15. Denur

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    I'd love a rewind feature, but only in online races of course. Just think of it, we'll not only have Punters to live with, but also those bloody Rewinders! :dunce:
     
  16. Kinetic

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    Nope, i'd be fine with that :)
     
  17. vaioleto

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    I'm in favor of being able to restart from certain points along a track, but not rewind. You can restart from the end of the long straight near the start of the nurburgring or before the two tight hairpins, but NOT in the middle of a series of complex turns as many newbies will use the rewind to do.
     
  18. Simple SIM

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    People will use it ( or not ), but many seem to think that the only possible usage of a rewind feature would be for cheating.
     
  19. alfy13

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    because i didnt want to waste my time responding to each of your statments. just like i hope PD doesnt waste their time implenting somthing that MOST ppl dont care about.

    when a person has option to buy Item A, and B. they buy the item that fits their needs. so looks like forza 3 fits your need.
     
  20. zuggerat

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    It is not really cheating, it is a bit unethical.
     
  21. Simple SIM

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    Can you imagine:lol:
     
  22. vaioleto

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    I would still have a problem with it since that means PD will spend X number of extra days making this feature that everyone will turn off at the start of the race and certainly not abuse.

    I want Gt to have everything too, but don't get overzealous with your expectations. No, rewind is no a invaluable tool in GT, it's an invaluable tool for flame wars when fans of other racing games scoff GT cuz our players can't cheat our way through races.
     
  23. Simple SIM

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    What?

    How is it unethical?
     
  24. Exorcet

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    What's the difference?

    Who cares what someone else does with it?

    Why would someone restart in the middle of a corner and spin as their car becomes unbalanced?
     
  25. vaioleto

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    All my nitpicks of this obviously junk feature center around the fact that GT is already so far away, so let's not give them more meaningless work to drag out the development time even longer. I wish Kaz could snap a finger and all the features in the whole wide world would be in GT, but that's just a hope of course.

    I'd rather drive my 1000+ cars on over 70 variations of tracks with glorious cockpit view and mind bogglingly good graphics and physics ONE day before the world ends on 2012. I don't really care if SImple SIm and other rewindists don't buy GT cuz it lacks their one "invaluable feature".

    Call me selfish, whatever. XD
     
  26. Simple SIM

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    Would you have a problem with them implementing a damage model for ALL cars? I've heard some people say they don't care about damage because they "don't ever crash"

    Or how about "wasting time" with online play? I've heard people say they don't care about it and only like hotlapping.

    What about skid marks? would that be pointless?
     
  27. No46_TheDoctor

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    Because it's a dumb ass idea?
     
  28. turbomp301

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    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no

    I can think hundreds of other features I would rather have first.
     
  29. Exorcet

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    I agree, if any time went into making a rewind, I'd be angry at PD. I'm just saying there really isn't a rational argument against it, the feature itself.

    I will never use it, but that does't mean it's bad.
     
  30. Simple SIM

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    And it's a dumb idea because..........
     
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