Monaco (1.05.775)F1 2010-2016 

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Uber lap:)

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:drool: Incredible!
 
11/11, and with assists. I can point out a handful of places where you would have lost time and traction without using them. ;) Still, a nice drive.
 
11/11, and with assists. I can point out a handful of places where you would have lost time and traction without using them. ;) Still, a nice drive.

No such thing as a perfect lap. Sorry Mr. perfectionist :)

At the time i was 19th out of thousands. What was your lap? (PC btw)

11/11.. its become standard for time trial, cant blame me for that.
 
I can point out a handful of places where you would have lost time and traction without using them.

Sorry disagree, for me anyways medium traction was a full second faster. if you can get a 1.04, then we speak lol.
 
Sorry disagree, for me anyways medium traction was a full second faster. if you can get a 1.04, then we speak lol.


But you can't post 1:05 without using medium TC, and that's my point. The leaderboards are being reset Monday anyway. I just wish they would make an entirely separate leaderboard for those using assists, instead of grouping them together with the non-assisted drivers.
 
But you can't post 1:05 without using medium TC, and that's my point. The leaderboards are being reset Monday anyway. I just wish they would make an entirely separate leaderboard for those using assists, instead of grouping them together with the non-assisted drivers.

I always drive without traction, not a big deal. Still got lots of unrealistic traction even off. You should start playing sims instead of arcadey CM games :)
 
I just wish they would make an entirely separate leaderboard for those using assists, instead of grouping them together with the non-assisted drivers.

Me too!👍
 
But you can't post 1:05 without using medium TC, and that's my point. The leaderboards are being reset Monday anyway. I just wish they would make an entirely separate leaderboard for those using assists, instead of grouping them together with the non-assisted drivers.

I used no TC for my 1:05 flat. Not to sound like an arrogant sod, but I find it funny the amount of people who put some good lap times down to driving aids or set ups. e.g. I sometimes get messages from people who I've been racing with saying "wow you must have an amazing set up, can you share it?" so I oblige and give them my set up and they're still two seconds slower....
 
I used no TC for my 1:05 flat. Not to sound like an arrogant sod, but I find it funny the amount of people who put some good lap times down to driving aids or set ups. e.g. I sometimes get messages from people who I've been racing with saying "wow you must have an amazing set up, can you share it?" so I oblige and give them my set up and they're still two seconds slower....

I find it funny that some wheel users think they are at a disadvantage to controller users in games such as GT when the wheel is the fastest. Or people using driving aids is cheating or if someone used cockpit view they would lose seconds of pace.

I do find it strange though with driving aids I can sort of match you but once I turn them off in these F1 games I'm like 2-3 seconds slower consistently. Have you tried driving with aids before and seen if you are much faster or are you at a similar pace? I need to work on understanding why still. Hopefully I will get there one day.
 
I find it funny that some wheel users think they are at a disadvantage to controller users in games such as GT when the wheel is the fastest. Or people using driving aids is cheating or if someone used cockpit view they would lose seconds of pace.

I do find it strange though with driving aids I can sort of match you but once I turn them off in these F1 games I'm like 2-3 seconds slower consistently. Have you tried driving with aids before and seen if you are much faster or are you at a similar pace? I need to work on understanding why still. Hopefully I will get there one day.

Yes, a wheel is virtually always faster, because it's simply the better tool to navigate a course with - there's a reason why they haven't changed the wheel since it was first used to steer an automobile over a hundred years ago. The one exception to this rule that I can think of was SuperCar Challenge, but this was because the pad users had a built in oversteer correction to the physics that the wheel users didn't have, so that any advantage the wheel users would normally have had was outweighed by the fact that pad users effectively had a stability control that they couldn't switch off - a driving aid.

TC is faster in F1 2011, it's not like GT where it dulls the revs and hurts your acceleration - it just holds the throttle any time you have too much and picks it up again as soon as the physics allow it, the computer doing all the hard work for you, to perfection - you cannot better it. The real advantage isn't so much the ultimate lap time in it, but rather the consistency it gives you as you're not penalised for using different amounts of throttle from lap to lap. Many corners you can take just as successfully without it, it's just you're less likely to. However, it's the kerbs which you can ride much more aggressively which gives you some genuine lap time with TC. And it's a massive advantage in the wet obviously.
 
Still quite amazed they haven't got rid of the 11/11 setup 'cheat'.
 
I used no TC for my 1:05 flat. Not to sound like an arrogant sod, but I find it funny the amount of people who put some good lap times down to driving aids or set ups. e.g. I sometimes get messages from people who I've been racing with saying "wow you must have an amazing set up, can you share it?" so I oblige and give them my set up and they're still two seconds slower....


Good drivers are good drivers. Some drivers are better at making use of the aids to get times, others are better at actual driving skills like braking points, throttle control, and approaches to apexes, etc. The point I was making though is that I see places in that video in particular that make me think he would have posted at least a 1:06 time or more without TC on, because I can see a handful of instances where it kept the car on rails even though he was just using the accelerator like an on/off switch, etc.


And I don't really understand the development of this argument anyway. I simply pointed out that I could tell he used assists, but I said it was a great drive nonetheless. Everyone knows the patch is out Monday, so hopefully it will fix some things, but there is still a reason that the leaderboards are flooded with assisted drivers posting the top times.
 
Yes, a wheel is virtually always faster, because it's simply the better tool to navigate a course with - there's a reason why they haven't changed the wheel since it was first used to steer an automobile over a hundred years ago. The one exception to this rule that I can think of was SuperCar Challenge, but this was because the pad users had a built in oversteer correction to the physics that the wheel users didn't have, so that any advantage the wheel users would normally have had was outweighed by the fact that pad users effectively had a stability control that they couldn't switch off - a driving aid.

TC is faster in F1 2011, it's not like GT where it dulls the revs and hurts your acceleration - it just holds the throttle any time you have too much and picks it up again as soon as the physics allow it, the computer doing all the hard work for you, to perfection - you cannot better it. The real advantage isn't so much the ultimate lap time in it, but rather the consistency it gives you as you're not penalised for using different amounts of throttle from lap to lap. Many corners you can take just as successfully without it, it's just you're less likely to. However, it's the kerbs which you can ride much more aggressively which gives you some genuine lap time with TC. And it's a massive advantage in the wet obviously.

TC is definately a lot faster for me as well as ABS on F1 2010 and also 2011. GT TC is not too bad, someone posted the 2nd fastest time in GT Academy with TCS on 1 in the UK. I understand what you mean though as F1 2011 gives you close to perfection. I think the F1 games by Codemasters are a lot harder to drive fast than the PC sims personally for me with no aids. For example Ferrari Virtual Academy has recently got the 150 Italia added to it. That car for me gives me more confidence in corner exits than F1 2010 or 2011. I don't get how you can get so high traction with no traction control in F1 2010. I remember I did a couple of laps on Spa and you got on the power so early, even with TCS on I was struggling to match that traction level. I'm hoping it is due to the wheel and pedals as I changed the wheel weight in the settings and that made no ABS braking a lot easier in F1 2010 while braking in the same place and holding the steering wheel the same. Very strange I must say.

In wet conditions LewyOs was extremely fast with no traction control:

http://i55.tinypic.com/21n093r.jpg

I used TC. One thing I have noticed though is everyone who is extremely fast with no aids is using a G25 or better. I think the game was tested out with something like a G25 or G27 with a modded F1 wheel addon so that might help but I'm not sure. The pedals I think might have more range of values which might help. I'm hoping to upgrade to a G27 sometime next year and will do a test then, to see if I'm slower or faster than using a DFGT though. Anyone have both to test?

Sorry for being off-topic, looking forward to the patch so I can then attempt the time attacks competitively without worrying about the leaderboards getting wiped.
 
Quite unrealistic time. 10 sec faster then in real life.

Nice drive tho.
 
No offense but i dont see anything special...its not exactly a balls to the wall lap.
Not saying i could do better but its far from an 'uber lap' in my opinion :)
 
I used no TC for my 1:05 flat. Not to sound like an arrogant sod, but I find it funny the amount of people who put some good lap times down to driving aids or set ups. e.g. I sometimes get messages from people who I've been racing with saying "wow you must have an amazing set up, can you share it?" so I oblige and give them my set up and they're still two seconds slower....

ha.. i find it funny that you use the 11/11 cheat but criticise traction
 
No offense but i dont see anything special...its not exactly a balls to the wall lap.
Not saying i could do better but its far from an 'uber lap' in my opinion :)

This is much quicker ;):

 
lol he completely cut that corner
 
lol he completely cut that corner

Which one?

I have not checked on leaderboards but I have seen on other forums faster times which will make this time also a further second or two off the pace.
 
Which one?

I have not checked on leaderboards but I have seen on other forums faster times which will make this time also a further second or two off the pace.

57 sec in
 
57 sec in

It is not that bad. Sure, he took a bollard off and hit the barrier but this competitive time trialling in a video game that counts it as valid ;)
 
No offense but i dont see anything special...its not exactly a balls to the wall lap.
Not saying i could do better but its far from an 'uber lap' in my opinion :)

fine the lap sucks, thanks:tup:
 
I used no TC for my 1:05 flat. Not to sound like an arrogant sod, but I find it funny the amount of people who put some good lap times down to driving aids or set ups. e.g. I sometimes get messages from people who I've been racing with saying "wow you must have an amazing set up, can you share it?" so I oblige and give them my set up and they're still two seconds slower....

You gave me some setup help, and I was only a few tenths slower almost immediately! Muahaha Shaggy, i'm catching you! :trouble:
 
Magzire
ha.. i find it funny that you use the 11/11 cheat but criticise traction

Because im not retarded and will use the fastest set up. It's not a 'cheat'. And where do I criticise tc users?

P.S you're becoming bizarre, saying earlier in this thread that you can't blame 11/11 users. Don't gurn at me if you're going through a mental episode thanks 👍
 
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