Motor Racing as An Olympic Sport - How?

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1. That photo was the best part of the Torino Olympics. I still remember that screaming V10 Ferrari vividly. 2. I got a better idea, How about X2011/VGT style cars built within VERY tight rules governing basic dimensions, safety features and whatever rules they have for athlete uniforms already but the powertrain can be anything but Gasoline/diesel ICEs and the cars have to be 99.9% (spec safety features excluded) built within the country that the team/driver are representing including wheels and tires (Example: US teams must run Goodyear tires, French must run Michelins and Japanese must run Bridgestone etc.) It would be environmentally friendly, entertaining, and we'd still get oppurtunities for amazing driving.

Then what're the smaller countries going to do?
 
Just have a bunch of nations all in LMP3 cars in a 24 endurance event, and they can only have 2 drivers per car.
 
I've had an idea for this for a while now, RALLYCROSS!
1.Spec cars, (similar to FIA RX Supercars or whatever they're calling them this week)
2.A manufacturer within the host country, or the driver's home country can sponsor the cars (eg. Games are in Germany, they're Audis.)
3.It could be run during winter or summer olympics! :sly:
 
Then what're the smaller countries going to do?

Now that you brought that up, maybe some wealthy individuals or generous, wealthy race teams who aren't working with their home countries could step in and help.
Just have a bunch of nations all in LMP3 cars in a 24 endurance event, and they can only have 2 drivers per car.
Why not ORECA FLM-09s since alot of them are going to be for sale soon
 
If Formula E was still a spec series, I think that would have been the only chance.
 
Now that you brought that up, maybe some wealthy individuals or generous, wealthy race teams who aren't working with their home countries could step in and help.

But then you're moving away from your original point.

It'd only work if the Olympic committee provided the athletes with the equipment and the competitors brought their coaches/engineers etc.
 
I like how that article keeps comparing Formula 1 to things that are nothing like Formula 1 to justify why Formula 1 could work in the Olympics.
 
I've had an idea for this for a while now, RALLYCROSS!
1.Spec cars, (similar to FIA RX Supercars or whatever they're calling them this week)
2.A manufacturer within the host country, or the driver's home country can sponsor the cars (eg. Games are in Germany, they're Audis.)
3.It could be run during winter or summer olympics! :sly:

Have a specification manufacturer-less car (think Super Truck or RX Lite). Electric, eco-friendly. Don't want advertising/manufacturer support etc. Compact track, can race anywhere. Pretty indestructible, should be easy to fix with minimum of moving parts. Tactical team sport with joker laps and spotters. Easy.

Would probably looks something like this. But hopefully a bit quicker

 
But then you're moving away from your original point.

It'd only work if the Olympic committee provided the athletes with the equipment and the competitors brought their coaches/engineers etc.
Admittedly you have a point that sinks the 100% British/American/Chinese whatever deal.
 
What if we dump the Olympics and just make it a world cup deal? LMP3's or old LMP2's or GT3's/GT4's would be perfect.
 
What if we dump the Olympics and just make it a world cup deal? LMP3's or old LMP2's or GT3's/GT4's would be perfect.
Racing drivers are athletes whichever way you look at it. They should be given a chance in the Olympics.

I'm thinking one make BTCC style racing but run it on a fresh track that no athlete would have had the chance to run on. High apexes would be another bonus instead of flat ones, keep the racing entertaining. No paint on the car except for a flag, the athlete's number and their name. Halfway through there should be a pit window where the athlete themselves gets out of the car and changes the tyres.

The cars would be provided by the Olympic organisers and tested at 60 or 100 mph with braking and a chicane and hairpin. Qualifying should be two laps where drivers get a different car to what they start with.
 
If motorsport is to be represented in the Olympics then it should be fully represented, not just one category. How angry/disappointed would say, Lewis Hamilton, be if he found out that cover-wheeled oval racing would be the only category, or someone like Jason Plato finding out that the category is open wheel F1 style. Sure there are many great drivers in the world, but to represent one category hurts so much of the community's chance to medal, let alone win. IF motorsport is included in a future Olympics it should have these categories:

Motorcycles 1000cc, 600cc, 250cc Circuit

Cover Wheel Circuit - FR 300-350 hp ideal, 400 max
Cover Wheel Oval - FR 600-650 hp
Cover Wheel Rally - WRC Specs probably best

Open Wheel Circuit - 575-625 hp, no DRS or ERS
Open Wheel Oval? (really only favours IndyCar/Lights drivers so probably not) - 550 hp max no P2P

Single Driver Circuit Endurance - 6 Hours - 1 make of LMP2 or Ginetta LMP3
Four Driver Relay Circuit Endurance - 24 Hours - same as above

Then there's the question of venue, let's run with the upcoming Tokyo Olympics as an example. The Oval event(s) could take place at Motegi, but would you have the circuit events there? I would argue no because the circuit is mostly straights, hairpins, and right angle corners which I think is not challenging enough for the drivers as the races should really be feats of athletic endurance to some degree. Obviously they shouldn't clash with the length of the endurance events but they should top 2 hours in length. So where should the events take place? Tsukuba is even closer than Motegi but is surely not suited to the large amount of machinery that would be brought in by the games. So of the big name ones that leaves Fuji and Suzuka, each is a very different track, but arguably Suzuka fits the Olympic bill better as quite a lot of the circuit is corner, requiring more physical effort.

Then there's another problem, pit stops would be a necessity with the length of the races, the simple fix to keep drivers exactly where they were on track, so long as the race stays green, is a mandatory stop time. The crews should be hired by the IOC and would be the only people allowed to touch the car apart from the driver.

The final super large problem, there's well over 200 countries in the world. Now if we only account for countries that quite regularly participate in motorsport there would still be likely well over 60 countries looking to take to the grid. Let's take 60 dead on as an example, so now, we have 60 countries competing on the oval. Clearly that's too many, the logical way to go about it is to run heats first. Do we have 2 heats of 30 or 3 heats of 20, sure the track can fit 30 cars, and while Motegi is wide, wrecks will be almost certain to happen. So 3 heats of 20 would probably be better, but how do you divide up who makes it to the final, do you increase the number to 30 so the top 10 in each race makes it through, or leave it at 20 so then 7, 7, and 6 go through? The heats should probably be the same length as the final as they are in all the other Olympic track events, so now we ask what happens for the 24 hour race, are you really going to run heats for that or run all 60 cars at once? If you run all 60 at Suzuka, even if they are actually the best drivers each country has, there will almost certainly be a first lap crash because Suzuka is so narrow in comparison to Fuji. However, as is SOP for the Olympics an entirely new venue could possibly be built, but that is unlikely seeing as the bid was made years ago and 4 years is not enough time to develop from scratch what would almost certainly need to be a Grade 1 FIA circuit.

I would love to see Olympic motorsport, I would watch the crap out of it, but I would feel generally let down if it was pretty much just F1 but in the Olympics.
 
If motorsport is to be represented in the Olympics then it should be fully represented, not just one category. How angry/disappointed would say, Lewis Hamilton, be if he found out that cover-wheeled oval racing would be the only category, or someone like Jason Plato finding out that the category is open wheel F1 style. Sure there are many great drivers in the world, but to represent one category hurts so much of the community's chance to medal, let alone win. IF motorsport is included in a future Olympics it should have these categories:

Motorcycles 1000cc, 600cc, 250cc Circuit

Cover Wheel Circuit - FR 300-350 hp ideal, 400 max
Cover Wheel Oval - FR 600-650 hp
Cover Wheel Rally - WRC Specs probably best

Open Wheel Circuit - 575-625 hp, no DRS or ERS
Open Wheel Oval? (really only favours IndyCar/Lights drivers so probably not) - 550 hp max no P2P

Single Driver Circuit Endurance - 6 Hours - 1 make of LMP2 or Ginetta LMP3
Four Driver Relay Circuit Endurance - 24 Hours - same as above

Then there's the question of venue, let's run with the upcoming Tokyo Olympics as an example. The Oval event(s) could take place at Motegi, but would you have the circuit events there? I would argue no because the circuit is mostly straights, hairpins, and right angle corners which I think is not challenging enough for the drivers as the races should really be feats of athletic endurance to some degree. Obviously they shouldn't clash with the length of the endurance events but they should top 2 hours in length. So where should the events take place? Tsukuba is even closer than Motegi but is surely not suited to the large amount of machinery that would be brought in by the games. So of the big name ones that leaves Fuji and Suzuka, each is a very different track, but arguably Suzuka fits the Olympic bill better as quite a lot of the circuit is corner, requiring more physical effort.

Then there's another problem, pit stops would be a necessity with the length of the races, the simple fix to keep drivers exactly where they were on track, so long as the race stays green, is a mandatory stop time. The crews should be hired by the IOC and would be the only people allowed to touch the car apart from the driver.

The final super large problem, there's well over 200 countries in the world. Now if we only account for countries that quite regularly participate in motorsport there would still be likely well over 60 countries looking to take to the grid. Let's take 60 dead on as an example, so now, we have 60 countries competing on the oval. Clearly that's too many, the logical way to go about it is to run heats first. Do we have 2 heats of 30 or 3 heats of 20, sure the track can fit 30 cars, and while Motegi is wide, wrecks will be almost certain to happen. So 3 heats of 20 would probably be better, but how do you divide up who makes it to the final, do you increase the number to 30 so the top 10 in each race makes it through, or leave it at 20 so then 7, 7, and 6 go through? The heats should probably be the same length as the final as they are in all the other Olympic track events, so now we ask what happens for the 24 hour race, are you really going to run heats for that or run all 60 cars at once? If you run all 60 at Suzuka, even if they are actually the best drivers each country has, there will almost certainly be a first lap crash because Suzuka is so narrow in comparison to Fuji. However, as is SOP for the Olympics an entirely new venue could possibly be built, but that is unlikely seeing as the bid was made years ago and 4 years is not enough time to develop from scratch what would almost certainly need to be a Grade 1 FIA circuit.

I would love to see Olympic motorsport, I would watch the crap out of it, but I would feel generally let down if it was pretty much just F1 but in the Olympics.
Where can we get you a job? :drool:
 
I think another major problem would be the scheduling. The Olympics take place right in the middle of most race series' seasons and getting every single one to take close to a month off would be impossible and I doubt any drivers would be able to leave their ride for that long.
 
Formula 1 is the last thing that should be used as a basis for ANYTHING. xD :lol:
Especially considering the Olympics are entertaining.

We're forgetting who has the biggest influence over the IOC, if we want any motorsport in it would probably have to be NASCAR.
 
Where can we get you a job? :drool:

One right between the FIA and IOC seems to be a good start apparently. :sly:

It's just an idea that I put probably 45 minutes of solid 'follow this train and see what problems might come up.'
I think another major problem would be the scheduling. The Olympics take place right in the middle of most race series' seasons and getting every single one to take close to a month off would be impossible and I doubt any drivers would be able to leave their ride for that long.

Yeah that's the big problem with the Olympics, although it's also kind of the great thing as well. It's the Olympics, they run events through the week constantly, so why not have the motorsport ones do the same? Most of the drivers that would be competing would surely be able to pay their own transport there and back many many times over, so they would probably fly there for a given week and do the practice/qualifying/races/whatever, and then fly back to where their respective series is racing. Sure it'd be a big waste of resources but most of them would likely do that. Yes during the week would be a bit nightmarish for fans to watch, but that's probably what they'd have to do to attract the best drivers to compete.
 
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