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Motorcycles in GT5?
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HKS racer
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If you want to play motorbikes go buy SBK X http://www.sbkthegame.com We are still waiting GT5 after a long time, just don't give them the BAD idea to daley it again.. Iif you are a motorbike fan just buy SBK and play it. It's a great game, really.
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To me, there's a huge difference between taking the time to develop bikes for GT5 and creating TT2. It's rather simple, really. I'd love a a full blooded TT2, a game that's bike culture's Gran Turismo. Spending that time on something, well, a 'half arsed job', so to speak, doesn't seem worth it to me.
I just like both cars and bikes to much to see either watered down by the other, that's about it.
One part of what makes GT the game it is (and should make TT2 the game it should be), is the incredibly amount of vehicles to pick one from. I fail to see the point of, like, 20 to 30 bikes being added to GT5 via DLC. It goes against the whole 'encyclopaedia of vehicles' idea.
Yup, that we could definitely agree on:tup:
Having a cross-game interaction would also enable people to race bikes against cars while still having two full blooded games to choose from.
The basic idea behind it was that you'd chose GT if you wanted to race a car, TT if you wanted to race a bike. The games would just exchange the models necessarry for the race (unless you own a copy of the other game and it's installed to your HDD or something). If the games are just exchanging the positional data of the other vehicles, both could run on specific physic engines, which would probably be necessary to create a proper feeling of riding a bike in TT2...
That's what crossed my mind, at the very least. And the price per bike would be considerably lower, as well
You might want to just read my response to analog's post, then.
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To me, there's a huge difference between taking the time to develop bikes for GT5 and creating TT2. It's rather simple, really. I'd love a a full blooded TT2, a game that's bike culture's Gran Turismo. Spending that time on something, well, a 'half arsed job', so to speak, doesn't seem worth it to me.
I just like both cars and bikes to much to see either watered down by the other, that's about it.
One part of what makes GT the game it is (and should make TT2 the game it should be), is the incredibly amount of vehicles to pick one from. I fail to see the point of, like, 20 to 30 bikes being added to GT5 via DLC. It goes against the whole 'encyclopaedia of vehicles' idea.
Yup, that we could definitely agree on:tup:
Having a cross-game interaction would also enable people to race bikes against cars while still having two full blooded games to choose from.
The basic idea behind it was that you'd chose GT if you wanted to race a car, TT if you wanted to race a bike. The games would just exchange the models necessarry for the race (unless you own a copy of the other game and it's installed to your HDD or something). If the games are just exchanging the positional data of the other vehicles, both could run on specific physic engines, which would probably be necessary to create a proper feeling of riding a bike in TT2...
That's what crossed my mind, at the very least. And the price per bike would be considerably lower, as well
Thinking about this again I think I have to agree almost fully like my initial preference was to have 2 separate games fully dedicated to their specialists subjects all along, just reacted to the news of Kaz mentioning the possibility of bikes being available later as DLC in GT5 which somehow intrigued me and was surprised by the hostile responses it created regarding bikes in general.
The idea could theoretically still work and would have no effect on those who choose not to purchase bike-DLC and I'm still not convinced by the development time arguments since it's basically a decision which platform to launch those bikes in ( TT2 or GT5 ) but let's leave it at that.
It might be better in many ways ( practical and ideological
) to have 2 separate titles and a possibility to have cross-game interaction would create all the benifits of them put together for those who'd like that without the downsides ( paying for TT2, as the DLC would also require cash I reckon, and not having the convenience of sharing one disc are of minor concern frankly ).And would be fair to offer hardcore bike fans ( with no interest in cars ) a game they could buy without having to buy a car game first and then paying extra to have bikes included.
So there you have it, I'm back on track waiting for Tourist Trophy 2 to eventually arrive.
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I think it would be interesting to have bikes as DLC and I would probably pay to download a selection just to try them out on the GT5 engine (i've not played TT, so this is new to me).
It would be cool to have a bike VS car online battle series i.e the player chooses from a fixed selection of cars and bikes that are roughly even on performance points. Having said that, I think it could become frustrating on a bike if you kept falling off, which is likely in my case
It would be cool to have a bike VS car online battle series i.e the player chooses from a fixed selection of cars and bikes that are roughly even on performance points. Having said that, I think it could become frustrating on a bike if you kept falling off, which is likely in my case
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This thread is all sorts of awkward, wasn't the news article about Bikes being DLC to begin with? Unless that was the unannounced secret that Kaz was hiding all this time.
Too many people in here with this iron clad dislike for bikes for whatever reason, your inflexibility shows the kind of individual you are. Listen, if bikes are added to GT5, obviously PD won't force you to drive along side them in races. You people dislike bikes for whatever reason and automatically assume it will be like PGR4 or Midnight Club...seriously why would you even think along those lines? PD won't even allow Karts versus cars, for obvious reasons...even if they did I would probably be for the lightest of cars in the game and more than likely be optional. PD isn't stupid, their bread and butter is cars, but they won't limit themselves to just cars as proof they crafted Tourist Trophy.
Please people get out of your little boxes and see that the world isn't black and white, there are varying shades of innumerable colors. Why would PD who created such a great physics engine, not attempt to include bikes? I'm pretty sure that Kaz will attempt to include the Paris to Dakar rally one of these iterations of GT. That race entails Rally cars, Trucks and assorted off road 4 to 6 wheelers and guess what else....bikes(dirt bikes). PD can give us that scale of race in a game built like GT5 would be nothing short of awesome, and bodes well for rally, as they would have realistic courses(no invisible barriers). While the pessimist can only moan and groan, I can only see this as a good thing. Cars alone is not where this creators vision lies, seems like he loves all automobiles.
Too many people in here with this iron clad dislike for bikes for whatever reason, your inflexibility shows the kind of individual you are. Listen, if bikes are added to GT5, obviously PD won't force you to drive along side them in races. You people dislike bikes for whatever reason and automatically assume it will be like PGR4 or Midnight Club...seriously why would you even think along those lines? PD won't even allow Karts versus cars, for obvious reasons...even if they did I would probably be for the lightest of cars in the game and more than likely be optional. PD isn't stupid, their bread and butter is cars, but they won't limit themselves to just cars as proof they crafted Tourist Trophy.
Please people get out of your little boxes and see that the world isn't black and white, there are varying shades of innumerable colors. Why would PD who created such a great physics engine, not attempt to include bikes? I'm pretty sure that Kaz will attempt to include the Paris to Dakar rally one of these iterations of GT. That race entails Rally cars, Trucks and assorted off road 4 to 6 wheelers and guess what else....bikes(dirt bikes). PD can give us that scale of race in a game built like GT5 would be nothing short of awesome, and bodes well for rally, as they would have realistic courses(no invisible barriers). While the pessimist can only moan and groan, I can only see this as a good thing. Cars alone is not where this creators vision lies, seems like he loves all automobiles.
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No people here REALLY need to understand that GT5 have too many cars with no interior view, the standard cars, this is a problem. Poliphony Digital create a sort of difference in cars that exist ONLY in this game, this is not real it's just a Gran Turismo thing, a bad thing. The fans are not so happy about that, people hope to see the most possible number of standard cars converted into premium ones, and fans would like to drive the newest models next year, they will require and pay for them via DLC. Exhample "the exhotic pack" Ferrari 599 GTO, Lamborghini Murcelago LP670-4 SV, the new Nissan GT-R SpecV.. things like that.. all these cars are not included in GT5 at the moment, PD need to take time and create it, but at the same time they can't forget to convert some standard into premium. We all know how many time PD need to do something.. years. Car fans don't want to wait their premium cars because of the motorbikes. If PD start saying "We will give you motorbikes instead of premium cars!" the fans could say: "WHAT THE HELL IS THAT??" Hope all you bike fans can understand that.
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Tourist Trophy has the best on-board look/feel out of all bike games I've played, so having bikes as DLC would be awesome. Having said that, if they never make it into GT5 I won't miss them at all ..the cars are already too cool.
Bikes are radical in real life. But in games? ..not so much.
Bikes are radical in real life. But in games? ..not so much.
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please no bikes in GT-Series. GT is for cars. i want an extra racing simulator for bikes like tt just a little bit more like GT.
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Yeah you should be able to get out and run around the track and stop another player and then take his car. That would be awesome.
It would be cool if they added some weapons to the character to. And a city to run around in. And choppers to fly around in. And then throw in some mob bosses and we got the A-class version of GT. Let's call it GTA.
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I'd like to see bikes in the game. All they would do is just grab the bikes from Tourist Trophy, add some new ones, and slap them in there, but bikes are better than no bikes, no?
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There are a few stories floating around the web about it:
http://www.pushsquare.com/20105/yam...tm_campaign=Feed:+pushsquare+(PushSquare.com)
http://www.incgamers.com/News/25659/?
http://www.devicemag.com/2010/10/21...ringing-bikes-to-the-gaming-world-in-future/?
Could be something to look out for.
PS. Sorry for adding wood to the fire of speculation.
http://www.pushsquare.com/20105/yam...tm_campaign=Feed:+pushsquare+(PushSquare.com)
http://www.incgamers.com/News/25659/?
http://www.devicemag.com/2010/10/21...ringing-bikes-to-the-gaming-world-in-future/?
Could be something to look out for.
PS. Sorry for adding wood to the fire of speculation.
well we all would prefer this if we had a choice. definitely more cars and/or tracks. besides this want, it wouldn't be to bad as long as they are separated. considering the sales of TT1, there may never be a TT2 because they will put all development into the more success GT series. I'd use them if they were there but it wouldn't kill me if they weren't. if they can put worthless slow cars or special cars that you can't do noting with, they can put in bikes. i have the need for speed. at least a bike can do what the nike car can't, and that's run on a track. i am not a huge bike fan but i could deal with them. it could also shorten the gap from xbox. considering alot of forza guy may get a ps3 for gt5 anyways it will just widen the gap from gt5 and forza. actually i should say gt6. let gt5 be and put in gt6. this way proper DLC time and development can take place.
i think the two grand titles have merged via consumer request,lol.
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Hi all I am a long time reader, but first time poster. I am primarily into cars rather bikes, however, I voted for yes to bikes as DLC in GT5. I would quite happily pay £7.99 for a download pack that contained all the bikes from Tourist Trophy and also contained the Isle Of Man TT Race Circuit. In my opinion this would then make it the complete racing simulator of all time, as I believe racing covers all forms or motorsport including karts, cars, bikes etc. Notice how I say "Racing" and not "Driving" or "Riding" to differentiate between various aspects of motorsport.
If bikes were included as DLC they would have to be kept as a seperate entity to the cars and would NOT race on the same track at the same time. The bikes would have their own challenges and license tests as they did in Tourist Trophy. Also the whole concept of DLC is that it is OPTIONAL - if you want the extra content you pay your money and download it into the game, if you don't want the extra content you keep your money and you carry on racing the same as you have previously, and haven't lost anything ... Simples
Additionally I see a lot of comments regarding the possibility of a Tourist Trophy 2 as a seperate game, and whilst I agree that the physics engine for controlling a bike is completely different to the physics engine of driving a car, there must surely be some common ground to both, that only needs a little tweaking to incorporate one or other. From a purchase point of view I would much prefer to pay the following:-
£59.99 GT5 Collectors Edition UK (Already pre-ordered)
+£7.99 for DLC including bikes (Tourist Trophy 2 add-on game pack)
as opposed to:-
£59.99 GT5 Collectors Edition UK (Already pre-ordered)
+£39.99 for Tourist Trophy 2 (GT5 engine but bikes only, no cars) - effectively paying twice for the same game but with different vehicles!!
If bikes were included as DLC they would have to be kept as a seperate entity to the cars and would NOT race on the same track at the same time. The bikes would have their own challenges and license tests as they did in Tourist Trophy. Also the whole concept of DLC is that it is OPTIONAL - if you want the extra content you pay your money and download it into the game, if you don't want the extra content you keep your money and you carry on racing the same as you have previously, and haven't lost anything ... Simples
Additionally I see a lot of comments regarding the possibility of a Tourist Trophy 2 as a seperate game, and whilst I agree that the physics engine for controlling a bike is completely different to the physics engine of driving a car, there must surely be some common ground to both, that only needs a little tweaking to incorporate one or other. From a purchase point of view I would much prefer to pay the following:-
£59.99 GT5 Collectors Edition UK (Already pre-ordered)
+£7.99 for DLC including bikes (Tourist Trophy 2 add-on game pack)
as opposed to:-
£59.99 GT5 Collectors Edition UK (Already pre-ordered)
+£39.99 for Tourist Trophy 2 (GT5 engine but bikes only, no cars) - effectively paying twice for the same game but with different vehicles!!
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