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Yes I would agree, but as per poll, 60% here strongly believe that bikes would take something away from the cars. I strongly disagree, as cars are clearly Ky's first love, he would never allow them to dilute his franchise, or ruin it as some here might want you to believe.
I keep hearing members talk about bikers and cars in the same game as being unrealistic and not real world, as in the real world cars and bikes are never competed on the same platform. Well that is not totally true, because a close friend of mine competes his bike in sprint races, where there is a class open to all, bikes and cars.
Cars and bikes may not share any actual real competitive track time together, but they do share (as mentioned) tarmac on the ring, where yes 'officially' they are not racing. Well try tell Mr A on his motorcycle not to race Mr. B in his 911 or vice versa, when one is overtaken by the other. It happens, be sure.
I ride a motorcycle, and while I am out riding some nice roads, I have many times come across well driven car. My Last little encounter was with a Bentley Continental GT. We had the country roads all to ourselves, for about 30 miles until we got into London, at which point we decided to call it a day. Thumbs up and then we went our separate ways. My 9 years of riding, I have had many encounters with cars, none of which ended up in tears. To best avoid that kind of thing, avoid Squids if you are a driver wanting to play with a bike, and avoid ricers if you are a bike playing with a car. I normally play with the middle age guy in a 911 etc
Bikes share our public roads with cars, and as from the above, time to time we cross paths, and a little race may take place - unfortunately illegally, but none the less it happens. Since its incarnation back in 98, YES GT has been about cars, it’s never been specifically about real world racing series, although some are included to spice things up. We have many Instances of unrealistic vehicle scenarios presented in GT, like the possibility of F1 cars lapping it up with Suzuki Cappuccinos!! I do not think that has ever happened and never will. There are many other examples, like a full blown WRC car on a road circuit racing with what ever you like. If you are all going to use 'real life' as a base for an argument, then you have to come up with more then that. And yes, these scenarios may be car on car, but they are more unrealistic then a bike vs an F1 car, as this has happend several time to date - in the real world I might add!
All of the GT's have all offered very unrealistic scenarios that have nothing to do with the 'real world' or motorsport as a whole. So bikes and cars sharing the same strip of tarmac, may not be the most realistic, but is is definatley not the most unrealistic we have seen, and is a more viable prospect than some scenario's already included in GT to date - seeing as bikes in the real world, as in day to day share our roads with cars, as well as every day, day in day out at the Ring lapping it up with cars.
I do not care how bikes arrive in GT, as long as: If I want to create a race myself, involving the 2 then I think most that want bikes here will be happy. I would certainly be happy with bikes just as DLC.
I think we are all forgetting, anything is possible in a game, and that is what makes them fantastic. I would never in my life get the chance to fly an F15, at 30000ft, while having a dogfight with a MIG, but from the comfort of my chair, I can, nor in real life can I shoot aliens that have invaded earth etc, but Gears of War and countless other titles allow me to do this! There is a boxing game coming out where you can compete with Ali and fight Mike tyson, not likely to happen in the real world, but awsome none the less - so what is wrong with a car and a bike missing it up on track. And before you say burnout or PGR 2, please I want a serious sim, not an unrealistic arcade game.
Of course, games have to stick within there parameters, as in no lawnmowers lapping it up on the ring, but including bikes in GT is not a leap of faith, nor is it a ridiculous proposition. From a performance perspective, the objectives of a bike and car are the same, they both combust fuel, ignite it, often making fantastic sounds. We fit exhaust, tweak suspension and brakes just like our car foe's..... and we like to race with the aim of winning. Only the lack of 2 wheels really makes a bike different, but the purpose and PASSION is the same. A bike in GT should be treated as any other vehicle, so why all the fear of it ruining the GT series I do not know.
TT2 will be great, but I can't wait for 2 more years for something that may never come. To me it just makes sense, having bikes in GT5. It will become the complete motoring Sim that it always should have been.
As for lap time, of course, we all know that ultimately a car is faster than a bike. Personally I am not hugely interested comparing an F1 car, with and gp bike, as one quick Google search will give us the answer on any track that they might share - though, for the sake of it, I would compare them hehe.
I am more interested with road bikes and road cars, because at this level, things are not as clear cut and much closer. Road cars have there advantages, in most cases under braking, hold a more constant speed though corners, though data logging has proven that on most corners apex speeds are the same. As we all know, bikes accelerate faster than the vast majority of cars, though the big hitters like the Enzo Ferrari, Pagani Ronda, etc, are not that far off of the top bikes, but certainly accelerate faster from 160mph onward.
Either way, I would like to know how a ZX10R compares with a an M5 at the ring, I suspect the ZX10R will take it, but what If the M5 had a race exhaust , and perhaps some sport suspension, now it is more even. The scenarios are endless. Look on these boards, and you will see the things members do, tuning challengers, where we have FF cars, with a budget of 150000cr to build a car, then we compare laps. We have people comparing run of the mill road cars, and trying to find out how much it costs to make it competitive with a WRC car on the ring! This is the magical thing about GT, and is a huge selling point for me and many others.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12...10r-vs-clk-dtm
(ABOVE)This is a great vid of a ZX10R Following/racing a car - make your own mind up. Therer are many more like this on the net.
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