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Detroit Lions with Stafford healthy go 10-6. If the Packers weren't in the division they'd probably go 13-3 just because their team in my eyes is that good. Resilient is the best compliment I can give a team, and boy this team is resilient.
 
Whoa there, turbo. I don't want to get into "resilient" intangibles, but come on. 10 and 6? Really? I'll call it a good season if they go 8-8. They have no running game, passing game still has yet to prove itself, and the best players on the team are still too young (except Calvin Johnson) to do anything. Yes, Suh and Fairley are going to be good, but they still have a few seasons to prove themselves.

They are getting better, but they have a long way to go before any 10 win seasons start happening.
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6...eement-which-includes-hgh-testing-sources-say

Players eventually would be subject to random testing for HGH, in addition to annual checks -- as is the case for all banned substances in the league's drug-testing program -- only after the union is confident in the way the testing and appeals process will work.

The aim is to have everything worked out in time to start HGH testing by Week 1 of the regular season, but that is not guaranteed.

"We have to see if we agree with the test," Jacksonville Jaguars cornerback Rashean Mathis said. "If we agree with the test, then it's legit. If not, they have to come up with another one."

An NFLPA source told Schefter that players won't agree to the testing unless they get other big changes in the drug program.

Players likely will also be able to appeal suspensions under the drug policy to an independent arbitrator.
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Who's the first player going down?
 
No, and they are the first major sport to do so. Only minor league baseball was doing blood testing for HGH before this.
 
Fairley's foot is broken btw.

Anyway, you guys still have the Bears and the Vikings to deal with. Should be an exciting season.
 
Here's our sports beat writers:

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Hahaha, unfortunately for them, I don't think they get to be the smartest in any society if your description is accurate :lol:. I still haven't sat through that entire movie, I need to.
 
Back to football, players! The 2011 Preseason begins tonight. My Texans don't go to work until this coming Monday night against the Jets.

And to think there may not have been a 2011 season. As I said earlier- back to football! This will be our first look at some of the upcoming talent and a look at some of the returning talent. I can't wait to judge how my Texans hope to utilize their play, especially with the new 3-4 defense put in by Wade Phillips.
 
I've been very impressed with Tolzien for the Chargers and Portis for the Seahawks. Both looked very composed and were very efficient.
 
They also would've been toast against 1st teams. Both are mechanically good though. Portis had a better night than Vince Young, anyway. Can't say the same for Tebow.
 
Glad my Hawks got that all-important first win for moral. And yeah, Portis was lookin' pretty good. Just have to remember that it was against 3rd stringers.
 
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They also would've been toast against 1st teams.
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That's a given. Fundamentally efficient would have been better for me to include in my post :).
 
Farewell Ricky Williams. Dave Wannstedt's entire playbook was "Derp derp, give the ball to Ricky, herp derp." Just wanted to remind you guys of the pain and suffering we Dolfans experienced during the Wannstedt era:

 
Redskins didn't look too bad against the Steelers tonight. Grossman led a 82 yard drive in the 2nd Quarter which was finished with a Santana Moss td reception. Kicker Graham Gano came ready to play kicking 3 field goals, and our defense held Pittsburgh to only 7 points. So all in all a good performance. HTTR!
 
I dislike Jimmy Clausen so much. I hope Rivera has the sense to give Armanti Edwards or Cam the much needed experience to be the future of the Panthers, because Clausen has once again shown his ineptitude to play with the big boys. Two throws into 2011, one pick six. I'm very excited about Armanti and Cam though 👍.

Cam looks beautiful, no other way to put it. Granted, he's not throwing on a first-team D, but he hasn't even ran the ball yet and he's shining. Beautiful throws, except one.
 
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^Following the game on ESPN gamecast, has got me very optimistic about the season.

Clausen will probably end up in Miami next year. :lol:
 
Hahaha, I don't really care where he goes, just out of Charlotte. I'm in NC, so I get the game live, he's looking good. I foolishly forgot Armanti came to the NFL as an athlete, not a QB (I'm so used to watching him tear it up at App State), and he had two 20 yard+ punt returns :D.
 
I only get to see the games down here on Fox Sports early in the morning or on ESPN's MNF.

But good to see Armanti Edwards making some big plays, with Gettis on I.R, I was a little worried about our WR's.

Edit: I think Clausen just fell to number 3 on the depth chart. :lol:
 
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^Following the game on ESPN gamecast, has got me very optimistic about the season.

Clausen will probably end up in Miami next year. :lol:
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If we have a new QB next year, it will be Luck or Barkley. New staff too.
 
Yeah, the only reason everyone loved Clausen so much is because he came from Notre Dame. Present day Notre Dame football is probably the most overrated team in sports. But that's just my opinion, many other candidates to choose from.
 
After tonight, all of the NFL's teams will have played their first Preseason games. So tonight...

Jets at Texans tonight!

This will be my first chance to see the 2011 Texans and find out if we can really go from middle-of-the-road to contender. I just really don't know about my Texans. I just don't really know what we have and if what we have will be sufficient enough to prove to be any contender. Preseason will provide only a small indication of what we've got. I just want the defense to actually play much better than what laughable effort they've shown through last season. We should have (or could have) won at the Jaguars, at the Jets, at the Broncos... but our defense failed miserably. All the work of your offense doesn't mean s:censored: if your defense can't help seal wins.

As for the Jets, we somewhat have a chance at revenge after we've failed late at the Jets last season. The Jets are going to be a contender for sure with Matt Sanchez under center and their band of merry men on offense and defense.


Should be a good one tonight.
 
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Yeah, the only reason everyone loved Clausen so much is because he came from Notre Dame. Present day Notre Dame football is probably the most overrated team in sports. But that's just my opinion, many other candidates to choose from.
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Yeah, if you remember Chucky's QB Camp, Gruden REALLY didn't like Clausen. I guess he's as good a gauge as you can get.
 
Agreed. Although I was born into a hatred for Notre Dame, really. A few years before I was born, Notre Dame went 5-6 and got the last spot in a bowl game, while East Carolina went 8-3, much to my dad's disdain. So the only teams I was brought up to loathe were ND and UNC-Chapel Hill 👍.
 
Texans won 20-16 over the Jets. I was pretty impressed with the defense, especially in the first half. They kind of stumbled in the second half. I was also impressed with Matt Leinart (remember him, college football fans?). Then again, this featured two USCal Trojan QBs- Sanchez vs. Leinart. I want T.J. Yates to improve in his efficiency. I can see him as a good deep ball thrower, but he needs to be more efficient. We led 13-3 at the half though the Jets drew first blood on a field goal. The Texans may have a new star with Ogbonnaya at Running Back. I like this Texans unit so far. We'll have to see how the boys handle New Orleans next weekend.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Jets go into the playoffs and even go far into the playoffs. You may say whatever you want about Rex Ryan's crew, but this team is going to be fearful.
 
USC is, by far, my least favorite sports-related entity. USC is much lower on the totem pole than the San Francisco Giants (that says a lot coming from a lifelong Dodger fan). I just despise everything about USC. I don't like the uniforms, I don't like the coaches (especially now! I have a competitive respect for Pete Carroll but Lane friggin Kiffin just embodies all that I despise about USC), I don't like the location (the school is not in the best part of LA - UCLA is in a better spot, I don't like the shabby old Colisseum they play in, I don't like green eggs and ham. USC is the academic respresentation of plastic Hollywood. That school just reeks of everything I don't like about LA and southern California. Even the gangs! Since we don't have an NFL team in LA, random people (Raider fans) will root for USC like they're LA's pro team because UCLA is so weak.

Matt Leinart is a mega douche but even I'll admit that Mark Sanchez is probably a cool guy. Matt Barkley is lame too. I do have respect for John David Booty and Carson Palmer but Palmer just reeks of elitism - but at least he can back it up and I think he needed it to keep his Cincy teammates in check.

Guh. USC. The fans are everywhere here and they are just the worst. I was so happy when they lost to Notre Dame last year.

Clay Matthews will be getting skinnier once the NFL starts blood testing for HGH. Don't forget defensive rookie of the year Brian Cushing:

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/spits on floor.
 
Wow... your USCal dislike would be sweet in my college football threads. Anyhow, all 32 teams have played their first Preseason games. Though it's just one Preseason game for all the teams, who do you all like so far on your favorite team or on some other team?

I still thought Matt Leinart played a great game taking over for Matt Schaub. T.J. Yates (QB, North Carolina) needs to be more efficient with his passes, but I still think he's got a good arm for throwing the ball. I'll have to learn to spell Ogbonnaya (RB(?), Texas), but he's looking good. One person on Twitter kind of nicknamed Ogbonnaya as "Old Banana." Not too many Texans on defense stood out to me last night. The Texans have put on pressure on the QB, but they still somewhat have butterfingers trying to wrap up the QB. Otherwise, the blitzing was pretty sweet.



So how about your new and old players on your team(s)?
 
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