Nurburgring Nordschleife PP Board - Car/Tune Submissions.

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This thread is a link for any tuners or drivers that want to post or find a tune for any given car at whichever PP they desire, to run and post for the Nurburgring lap time board found here.
General tuning discussion, etc is perfectly fine as long as it's kept semi-orderly and not hateful.

Rules:
- The lap must be run in GT Mode : Practise : A-spec Free Run (driving in this mode will put miles on your car, change oil when you are noticing a loss of power (or don't)).

- Engine and chassis overhaul allowed.

- Oil change allowed

- SRF (skid recovery force) not allowed, other aids are allowed, grip has to be set to REAL.

- Tire Wear and Fuel Depletion (New for Spec II): OFF.

- On your first submission, a video of the lap using a driving view, or the replay file, may be required. If the lap seems too quick we may ask for a video as well.

- Videos are welcome! We will add them to the sheet.

- Must use 2.08 version of GT5.

- You may fit any car into any PP bracket you desire, by any means within the game that I am currently aware of. Any ballast, PL, Aero, etc.

- The tire grade required for each PP level is listed below, there are no exceptions.

SPREADSHEET HERE Where you can see all lap times for all categories of both Nurburgring threads.
(*Alphabetical list only shows stock cars from the 'production' and 'Race/Non-production ALL STOCK' categories).

Only the fastest laps for each car at a given PP will stay on the board.

Time Submission Format:
06:41.119 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 '09 - 600PP/RH (CSLACR) NEW,BEATEN or UPDATED
You Must type a time submission in this exact format, including the 0 on times less than 10 minutes.
You MUST include the tune used in detail. Power, parts, weight, balance, and all settings.

*Laptimes under 10 minutes require the '0' like this: 05:55.555

All laptimes must be posted in this thread.
Let us know in which category you are posting your new time as well.

We have listed the following categories:
300PP - Comfort Hard Tires(CH)
350PP - Comfort Medium Tires(CM)
400PP - Comfort Soft Tires(CS)
450PP - Sports Hard Tires(SH)
500PP - Sports Medium Tires(SM)
550PP - Sports Soft Tires(SS)
600PP - Racing Hard Tires(RH)
650PP - Racing Medium Tires(RM)
700PP - Racing Soft Tires(RS)



*Credit goes to bonobo4 for the original thread 👍
The new thread is to keep the first page updated with the spreadsheet.

Everything is updated by mike_gt3, w-g-e, CSLACR and also some help from zedextreme8177.









Tune links(Tunes MUST be posted in full format in this thread to get a link here)

700PP+


650PP
JohnnyPenso - Nissan GTR R35 TC
Praiano63 - Pagani Zonda LM Race Car


600PP


550PP


500PP
CSLACR - Lotus Evora
JohnnyPenso - Amuse S2000 R1
backpian1 - Isuzu 4200R Concept '89
HaylRayzor - BMW M3 GTR '03
Praiano63 - Ferrari 512BB '76
HaylRayzor - Suzuki GSX-R/4 Concept '01


450PP
JohnnyPenso - Mazda RX7 '02 Spirit R
CSLACR - Camaro Coupe Z28 '97
HaylRayzor - Toyota FT-86 Concept


400PP
XDesperado67 - Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-APEX '83
NEWDRIVER2 - Toyota Corolla Levin GT-APEX (AE86)'83


350PP


300PP
 
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700PP - RS
05:25.246 - Peugeot 905 RACE CAR '92 - 700PP/RS (mike_gt3)
05:29.437 - AUDI R8 RACE CAR '01 - 700PP/RS (Praiano)
05:29.470 - TOYOTA GT-ONE RACE CAR (TS020) '99 - 700PP/RS (Praiano)
05:31.458 - BENTLEY SPEED 8 RACE CAR '03 - 700PP/RS (Praiano)
05:34.215 - MAZDA 787B RACE CAR '91 - 700PP/RS (Praiano)
05:53.319 - Peugeot 905 race car '92 - 700PP/RS (lldantell)



650PP - RM
05:48.947 - Peugeot 905 RACE CAR '92 - 650PP/RM (mike_gt3)
05:57.262 - BMW MCLAREN F1 GTR RACE CAR '97 - 650PP/RM (Praiano)
05:57.684 - Mazda 787B '91 - 650PP/RM (CSLACR)
05:58.303 - GRAN TURISMO FORD GT LM SPEC II TEST CAR- 650PP/RM (Praiano)
06:00.538 - HONDA WEIDER HSV-010 SUPER GT '11 - 650PP/RM (Praiano)
06:02.421 - NISSAN GT-R R35 Touring Car - 650PP/RM (Praiano)
06:05.704 - MERCEDES-BENZ CLK TOURING CAR '00 - 650PP/RM (Praiano)
06:07.365 - DODGE VIPER GTS-R TEAM ORECA RACE CAR #51 '00 - 650PP/RM (Praiano)
06:08.603 - NISSAN R390 GT1 ROAD CAR- 650PP/RM (Praiano)
06:10.749 - Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car - 650PP/RM (MrGrado)



600PP - RH
06:17.573 - Peugeot 905 RACE CAR '92 - 600PP/RH (mike_gt3)
06:21.597 - HONDA LOCTITE MUGEN NSX '01- 600PP/RH (Praiano)
06:25.022 - HONDA NSX-R PROTOTYPE LM ROAD CAR - 600PP/RH (Praiano)
06:25.721 - Audi R8 LMS Race Car (Team Playstation) '09 - 600PP/RH (Praiano)
06:28.530 - AUDI R8 4.2 FSI R TRONIC '07- 600PP/RH (Praiano)
06:33.028 - Ferrari Enzo - 600PP/RH (MrGrado)
06:36.966 - Cizeta V16T '94 - 600PP/RH (MrGrado)



550PP - SS
06:48.924 - MITSUBISHI FTO SUPER TOURING CAR- 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:49.647 - LOTUS 111R RM '04 - 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:49.721 - LEXUS LFA '10- 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:50.185 - FERRARI 458 - 550PP/SS (mike_gt3/Praiano)
06:50.350 - HONDA HSC '03 - 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:50.668 - LOTUS EVORA '09- 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:51.388 - CITROEN GT BY CITROEN ROAD CAR - 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:52.750 - BMW M5 '05 - 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:52.886 - Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car '98 - 550PP/SS (MrGrado)
06:53.720 - FERRARI 430 SCUDERIA '07 - 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:53.990 - PAGANI ZONDA C12S '00 - 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:54.962 - TVR Tuscan Speed 6 RM - 550PP/SS (CSLACR)
06:55.278 - NISMO SKYLINE GTR TUNE (R34) '99- 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:55.642 - Aston Martin DB9 - 550PP/SS (MrGrado)
06:55.793 - LOTUS ESPRIT 350 SPORT '00 - 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:56.035 - RUF CTR2 '96 - 550PP/SS (mike_gt3)
06:56.742 - NISMO FAIRLADY Z Z-TUNE (Z33) '03- 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:58.236 - FERRARI F40 '92 - 550PP/SS (Praiano)
06:59.897 - Pagani Zonda C12S '00 - 550PP/SS (MrGrado)
07:01.812 - TOYOTA SUPRA RZ '97 - 550PP/SS (Praiano)
07:06.588 - Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR '08 - 550PP/SS (MrGrado)



500PP - SM
07:14.845 - MAZDA RX-7 SPIRIT R TYPE A (FD) '02- 500PP/SM (Praiano)
07:15.447 - LOTUS 111R '04 - 500PP/SM (Praiano)
07:15.905 - AMUSE S2000 R1 '04- 500PP/SM (Praiano)
07:17.687 - Suzuki GSX-R/4 Concept '01 - 500PP/SM (HaylRayzor)
07:17.720 - MAZDA RX-7 RS TYPE (FD) '98- 500PP/SM (Praiano)
07:17.902 - LOTUS EVORA '09- 500PP/SM (Praiano)
07:18.415 - HONDA HSC '03- 500PP/SM (Praiano)
07:19.728 - NISSAN FAIRLADY Z (Z34) '08 - 500PP/SM (Praiano)
07:20.210 - SCION FR-S '12- 500PP/SM (Praiano)
07:20.573 - Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car '98 - 500PP/SM (MrGrado)
07:27.512 - BMW M3 GTR '03 - 500PP/SM (HaylRayzor)
07:27.769 - Isuzu 4200R Concept '89 - 500PP/SM (backpain1)



450PP - SH
07:45.635 - LOTUS 111R '04 - 450PP/SH (Praiano)
07:48.331 - HONDA S200 TYPE V (US) '01- 450PP/SH (Praiano)
07:48.462 - LANCIA STRATOS '73 - 450PP/SH (mike_gt3/Praiano63)
07:49.829 - Mazda RX-7 Spirit R, Type A (FD) 02 - 450PP/SH (Johnnypenso)
07:50.600 - RUF 3400S '00 - 450PP/SH (Praiano)
07:55.075 - MERCEDES-BENZ 190 E 2.5 EVOLUTION II ’91 - 450PP/SH (Praiano)
07:57.127 - Hommell Berlinetta R/S Coupe '99 - 450PP/SH Mike_GT3/(XDesperado67)
07:57.394 - Toyota 86 GT '12 - 450PP/SH (MrGrado)
07:57.437 - Mazda Roadster RS (NC) '07 - 450PP/SH (MrGrado)
07:58.310 - Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Coupe '97 - 450PP/SH (CSLACR)
07:59.253 - Toyota FT-86 Concept '09 - 450PP/SH (HaylRayzor)
08:02.102 - Peugeot 207 GTI '07 - 450PP/SH (MrGrado)



400PP - CS
08:19.950 - Toyota MR2 G-Limited '97 - 400PP/CS (mike_gt3/Praiano63)
08:29.497 - Nissan Fairlady Z 280Z-L 2 Seater (S130) '78 - 400PP/CS (MrGrado)
08:38.488 - Toyota Corolla Levin GT-APEX(AE86)'83 - 400PP/CS (smrtb0mb/OTS_NEWDRIVER2)
08:40.100 - Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-APEX '83 - 400PP/CS (smrtb0mb/XDesperado67)



350PP - CM
09:26.892 - ALFA ROMEO SPIDER 1600 '66 - 350PP/CM (Praiano)
09:30.403 - Volvo 240 GLT Estate '88 - 350PP/CM (Theo777)
09:45.858 - Honda Beat version Z '93 - 350PP/CM(Bagmup/krenkme)
09:47.085 - Daihatsu Sirion CX 2WD (J) '98 - 350PP/CM (C-ZETA)



300PP - CH
 
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Example 1: Submitting a Time
06:41.119 - Dodge Viper ACR - 600PP/RH (CSLACR) NEW
Tune - https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7389436#post7389436

You must submit the time in the format provided in order for it to be added to the leaderboard.

You can also do this in the regular Nuburgring thread found here.


Example 2: Submitting a Tune
You can link it, like this: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7389436#post7389436

Or post it, like this:

Dodge Viper ACR '08 - Universal 600PP
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Build 2: 600PP - 648/1350/600/RH
Stage 2 Weight Reduction - Ballast 16KG @ 0
Sports ECU, Exhaust Manifold, Air Filter, Intake Manifold - PL @ 98.4%

Ballast
16KG's @ 0

Aero:
N/A

Transmission:
Stock

LSD:
9/19/5

Suspension:
-6/2
11.7/11.7
6/4
3/5
3/3

Camber/Toe:
2.2/1.6
-0.04/0.00

Brakes:
BB: 6/4
ABS: 1

Comments: These specs are without an oil change. To do this, simply don't change the oil on a new car, once it reaches 200 miles, it will fit these specs so long as you don't change the oil.
 
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Awesome Dom!👍 , i will get back on updating the spreadsheet soon, i'll be more involve again at the end of the summer, i just dont want to spend too much time on this when its so nice outside! I will add the no ABS class as well.

:)
 
I feel "special" being the first to post. :dopey:

I only wish I was better at the ring. This car is capable of much more than I am.


07:59.253 - Toyota FT-86 Concept '09 - 450PP/SH (HaylRayzor) New

Toyota FT 86 Concept '09 450PP

Originally Tuned for the Toyota 86 Tuning Challenge, offline, with a wheel. The only changes I made to the original tune for the Nordschleife are gear ratios.

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1000kg
248hp
450PP
Sport Hard Tires

Chassis:
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction

Engine:
Engine Tuning Stage 1

Intake:
Stock

Exhaust:
Stock

Transmission:
Fully Adjustable

Drivetrain:
All upgrades

Suspension:
Fully Adjustable

Settings:
Ballast - 110kg position 20
Power Limiter - 95.5%

Aero: None

Transmission:
1st 3.691
2nd 2.595
3rd 1.944
4th 1.522
5th 1.250
6th 1.036
Final 4.110

Suspension:
Height -5 -5
SR 11.0 9.0
DE 5 5
DC 5 5
AR 3 3

Cmb 2.2 2.0
Toe 0.10 0.20

LSD:
Initial 10
Accel 40
Brake 20

Brake Bias:
5 3​

The engine is fully broken in, with an oil change. I tuned this one to drive like a balanced Mid-Rear. It rotates quickly, but will require throttle control in the corners.
 
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Dont worry about your driving, i have no idea how 7:59 is for 450PP but the way it work ( i assume) every driver will try every tune and the fastest tune will be on the sheet with the tuner's name, you will only see the fastest tune for a given car (correct me if im wrong Dom)

Good to see a first tune! when i will have more time i will try it :)
 
6:33.028 - Ferrari Enzo - 600PP/RH (MrGrado) NEW
Tune

6:36.966 - Cizeta V16T '94 - 600PP/RH (MrGrado) NEW
Tune

6:52.886 - Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car '98 - 550PP/SS (MrGrado) NEW
Tune

6:55.642 - Aston Martin DB9 - 550PP/SS (MrGrado) NEW
Tune

7:20.573 - Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car '98 - 500PP/SM (MrGrado) NEW
Tune
 
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mike_gt3
Dont worry about your driving, i have no idea how 7:59 is for 450PP but the way it work ( i assume) every driver will try every tune and the fastest tune will be on the sheet with the tuner's name, you will only see the fastest tune for a given car (correct me if im wrong Dom)

Good to see a first tune! when i will have more time i will try it :)
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I was thinking more open-ended. Anyone can try any tune, fastest time/tune go on the sheet.(and OP with a link to the tune)
I just don't want anyone to "have" to drive (or tune) anything. Much like the rest of the board, pick and choose as you please, basically.

Thank you HaylRazor and MrGrado, nice work, and good formats.👍
 
Ok i see now, every tune will be displayed with their fastest time, so you can see how faster a tune is vs the other... sounds good :)
 
How is that?

8:58 - PDI Racing Kart 100 - 22 bhp / 95 kg / 461 PP / SS

Top Speed set to 110 , 10 kg Ballast at Pos 47


:)


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I assume those are all the settings possible for the Kart, in which case it's good to go.👍

I am curious why you would add ballast, not that I know much about karts, but you have some PP to spare...
 
If you can keep this thing on the track without Ballast , you can beat the time at least by 10 secs.
So try yourself.
btw I only did 1 lap (1st lap). On a flying lap , I guess I can do 5secs better.


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Can I make a request? :) If anyone wants to compare the M5 against the Z06 C6 at 550pp I would be very interested to see what's faster.
 
smrtb0mb
Can I make a request? :) If anyone wants to compare the M5 against the Z06 C6 at 550pp I would be very interested to see what's faster.
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Dont worry, with time every car will be displayed with their time. :)
 
CSLACR
Only the fastest lap with each car at a given PP will be shown to avoid a mass amount of similar laps.
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So basically, all the times Mike runs with a given tune and the scraps left for the rest of us....? :lol:

I'll see how many of mine will fit into the PP/tire reqs....probably not many yet.
 
8:51.480 - Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-APEX '83 - 400PP/CS (XDesperado67) New

The Outlaw Motorsports Garage tunes
Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-APEX '83, "Sunshine Express Nur175"
Recently CSLACR announced his Nürburgring Nordschleife PP laptime boards. This is an intriguing concept that differs from the other Nordschleife laptime boards because it has set PP limits and tire selection is dictated by the PP. Now having just tuned the "Sunshine Express" for a 450PP event featuring the newer Toyota 86 family you might expect Ol'Harvey Wallbanger to run it as his first entry for CSLACRs lists. But a couple things happened that led to this version instead. First was that PD brought back the Japanese 80s seasonal featuring a 420PP limit and comfort soft tires. Second was Ol'Harvey spending a bit of leisure time watching some Initial D. Now removing the Turbo and a few other minor changes easily got the car down to 420PP where even on the lower grade tires it proved to be both an easy car to win with and a lot of fun. Sticking with the comfort soft tires and further limiting it down to 400PP seemed like a great idea. Along the way Ol'Harvey inspired by the early version of Takumi's car in Initial D decided to make it closer to that version so a few changes were made not for the sake of improved performance but for more aesthetic reasons. The biggest change was to limit the amount of ballast used to only enough to bring it back to its stock weight. This decision meant less power from the engine and altered the weight distribution some, but with only minor adjustments to the suspension provide a very easy to drive and fun car. Where the "Sunshine Express" is a razor sharp time attack machine that requires full concentration and a masters touch on the controls to extract its awesome potential, this is a much more relaxed drive that isn't as quick to punish you for the slightest of reasons. Hopefully you will all find this as much fun to drive as the Wallbanger has.
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Source and Parts list:
Buy from: Used Car Dealership
Paintjob: Pearl Yellow (Paint by Lexus)
Wheels: Enkei JS+M (Painted Pearl Yellow by Lexus)
Aerodynamic Kit: None
Weight Reduction: Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction: Yes
Carbon Hood: No
Chassis reinforcement: No
ECU Tuning: No
Engine Tuning: Stage 3
Intake Manifold: Stock
Air Filter: Racing
Exhaust Manifold: Stock
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Exhaust: Sports
Turbo Kit: None
Transmission: Fully Customizable
Clutch: Twin-Plate
Flywheel: Semi-Racing
LSD: Adjustable
Center Differential: -
Drive Shaft: Carbon
Suspension: Fully Customizable Kit
Tires: Comfort Soft

The Tune
Aerodynamics: -
Ballast: 104kg at +50
Power Limiter: 98.6%
Transmission - process as follows;
1) Set to default
2) Set Final Gear to 5.500
3) Set Top Speed to 112mph
4) Set gears as follows;
1st=2.820,
2nd=2.150,
3rd=1.700,
4th=1.342,
5th=1.096,
6th=0.935
5) Set Final gear to 3.900
Should display an indicated top speed of 152mph in upper right corner.
LSD Rear Initial 12, Acceleration 12, Braking 48
Suspension
Camber Angle Front 2.8, Rear 3.2
Toe Angle Front 0.00, Rear 0.20
Ride Height Front -25, Rear -5
Spring Rate Front 12.8, Rear 9.5
Dampers (Extension) Front 1, Rear 3
Dampers (Compression) Front 3, Rear 7
Anti-Roll Bars Front 3, Rear 5
Brakes Front 1, Rear 7

The car has 400PP, weighs 940Kg with a 53/47 front/rear weight distribution, has 176HP and produces 143ft-lb torque@5,500rpm with a 8,000rpm redline.

Notes: This car is nearly perfect for driving with an automatic transmission and using a manual transmission is likely to only produce marginally better times.

Note 2: Ol'Harvey Wallbanger recorded a rather sedate 8:51.480 lap of the ring. Better drivers should be able to knock a considerable chunk off that time.:gtpflag:

Enjoy the ride and as Harvey Wallbanger always says...
Drive hard and have fun!:cheers::gtpflag:

Reviews and/or additional photos
 
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6:10.749 - Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car - 650PP/RM (MrGrado) NEW
Tune

8:29.497 - Nissan Fairlady Z 280Z-L 2 Seater (S130) '78 - 400PP/CS (MrGrado) NEW
Tune
 
@CSLACR Looks like we have dueling 400PP AE86 tunes going on...need a master driver like you or mike to tell us which is best!:lol:
 
XDesperado67
@CSLACR Looks like we have dueling 400PP AE86 tunes going on...need a master driver like you or mike to tell us which is best!:lol:
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Sure the Wallbanger car is the best and this is great idea :lol: :dopey:
 
I happen to have both of you on at least 1 of my friends lists, do either of you have the Toyota's on share? That's how I plan to do most of my driving that isn't my own tune, via sharing.(I hate installing tunes) :lol:

But I'll definitely give them a whirl if they're shared.
 
CSLACR
I happen to have both of you on at least 1 of my friends lists, do either of you have the Toyota's on share? That's how I plan to do most of my driving that isn't my own tune, via sharing.(I hate installing tunes) :lol:

But I'll definitely give them a whirl if they're shared.
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I have my "Sunshine Express" on share from the Toyota 86 Shootout.
You'll need to remove some parts and adjust things slightly but other than maybe the exhaust it should have everything you'll need for my "Nur175" version I posted here.👍👍

Note the power limiter may not be exactly as listed since the shared car has low mileage, this may also result in a very minor difference in the HP/Torque numbers.:odd:
 
CSLACR
I happen to have both of you on at least 1 of my friends lists, do either of you have the Toyota's on share? That's how I plan to do most of my driving that isn't my own tune, via sharing.(I hate installing tunes) :lol:

But I'll definitely give them a whirl if they're shared.
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The Midnight purple on share now you can take it for a tour :-) :dopey:
 
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Looking forward to pitting the first pair against each other. :mischievous:

Desp - Should be no problem, I'll find the way to be at least as close as possible if I can't get it exactly to spec.👍
 
07:27.512 - BMW M3 GTR '03 - 500PP Sport Medium (HaylRayzor) New

7 seconds behind the R390. Not bad with my hack driving.

"Razor M3" BMW M3 GTR '03
Created for the Nurburgring 500PP Street Car Tuner Challenge

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354hp
1191kg
500PP

Tires: Sport Medium

Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction
Chassis Reinforcement
Ballast: 67kg Position -25

Aero: None

No power tuning parts installed
95% Power Limiter

Transmission: Fully Adjustable
1st 3.266
2nd 2.370
3rd 1.800
4th 1.430
5th 1.174
6th 0.969
Final 3.691

Clutch: Twin Plate
Flywheel: Semi-Race
Differential: Fully Adjustable
-Initial 10
-Accel 40
-Braking 20

Suspension: Fully Adjustable
-Height -7 -7
-SR 9.5 10.0
-DE 6 5
-DC 7 6
-AR 3 2

-Cmb 2.3 2.3
-Toe 0.05 0.10

Brakes: 5 3​
 
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