Project CARS - Hardware recommendation on PC

Discussion in 'Project CARS 1' started by rocafella1978, Nov 18, 2014.

  1. WhiteOakRacer

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    I'm looking to improve my PC to be able to run triple screens - have an i7 3770/3.4 GHZ, 16 GB ram with an ASUSTek P8B75M motherboard.

    Certain I need new video card(s?) and a better power supply.

    I'm able to start from scratch if necessary but wondered it the present setup can be upgraded.

    Do you have any recommendations that will allow me to run Project Cars on triple screens, 1080p and a good frame rate?
     
  2. Myles Prower

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    A card with a lot of VRAM
     
  3. Johnnypenso

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    Hopefully one of the members that are familiar with triple screen setups will come along, but it'll depend on a number of things. Will it bother you if you dip below 60fps at the start of races that are the most GPU intensive like full grids in the rain, but get back over 60fps once the grid spreads out?
    How high do you want the settings? Ultra is extremely demanding and I've been told that even with my single GTX970 I'll dip below 60fps in demanding conditions with settings on ultra. Things are much more manageable of course at medium to high settings.
     
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    I am quite new to this PC gaming thing, I bought most of a second hand rig from a guy at work a few months back and added a GPU, SSD and ram myself.

    I have an i7-2600, 16GB RAM and an Nvidia 750Ti (overclocked) at the moment, its decent but isn't going to set the world alight. Will this play Project Cars on a single 1080p TV at console quality or not?

    I know the graphics card is letting me down a bit at the moment but it was about 1/2 of what it should have cost so I went for it on the basis that if the PC didn't get a lot of use I hadn't spent too much on it, is it going to cut it come May (fingers crossed) or should I start looking for an upgrade now?
     
  6. Johnnypenso

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    Best guess is yes, you're right in the same general area as consoles.
     
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  7. Pamellaaa

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    Thanks, I am keeping my eyes out for a nice 4GB GTX980 or similar to come up but as long as its playable and reasonable pretty when I get it I won't worry too much :)
     
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  8. Johnnypenso

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    The 970 has almost the same performance for a little more than half the cost. I'd buy 2x970 before I'd buy a 980.
     
  9. Pamellaaa

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    Where I work has a clearance list from one of the suppliers that I get each morning, I got my 750Ti for £55 from there so if I do go for an upgrade that will be the source. It will just be whatever turns up.

    If that is the case though I will look for 970 as well as 980.

    Am I right in thinking that pCars favours Nvidia cards over AMD?
     
  10. WhiteOakRacer

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    I'd be happy with the performance I am getting from my PS3 consoles running GT6 in triple screen mode.

    After using Forza3, Forza4, GT5 and GT6 in triple screen, I am used to that and wish to remain in that mode. I've been told that GT7 won't run in 3 screens on the PS4 and PCars won't either, so that 's way I'm investigating the change to PC based gaming.

    As you may surmise, I am a definite novice in this area so am just beginning to acquire knowledge - any help would be appreciated. While funds are limited by reasonableness, I do have what I believe to be an appropriate amount of funds budgeted for this project
     
  11. NLxAROSA

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    Check this thread too for some of my experiences of running Project CARS in UHD (3840x2160) with a single GTX970 and a Core i5-4460. On UHD, settings at medium except textures (high), no AA, I had excellent frame rates (way above 60FPS) except for the most demanding situations. E.g. Spa + grid of 20 + night + thunderstorm is rather heavy on the GPU, in which case the FPS was still 45+.

    So with 3x 1080p instead of 4x you should expect better FPS, higher settings, or both :).
     
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    Keen to see what my build will get on project cars, I5 4690k @4.2Ghz, GTX970 G1 @ 1450Mhz. If I can get 60-70fps on high settings ill be happy
     
  13. Soulfresh_ACV

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    "If memory serves me right" lol (for those who watched the Japanese Iron Chef with English voice over), GT5 didn't get support with triple screen from the start until PD and Sony collaborated to support the use of triple consoles and copies of the game. I would question the source on GT7 not being able to but I'm sure triple PS4 setup will be adequate to drive triple monitor setup for both Project CARS or GT7 on PS4. It's just not really worth the development time at least for PCARS on PS4 as the adoption rate for a triple PS4 setup will be low and Sony could spend more time improving other more request PS4 features first.

    And the cost of 3 PS4 will get you a PC that will allow you to run triple on Ultra settings with way better frame rates and quality and best of all it's already implemented for triple screens.
     
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    I play in multi-screen since several years so got used to comparing 4K benchmarks to 3*1080p actual results. Unfortunately, it can be a bit different than the straight forward 3*1080p = 75% of 4k. You often get lower fps in 3*1080p than 4K:
    1/ for the same amount of pixels and number of objects to display, it costs something to the GPU(s) (and CPU potentially) to manage 3 screens instead of 1
    2/ 4k in the central screen is more pixels than 3*1080p... but 3 screens display more objects than only one, independently of the resolution. (for exemple, in racing games, at the start you will see cars and pits on lateral screens that you don't in a 1-screen configuration)

    On the good news side, for people who come from GT5 and even PS4/Xbox One current racing game, Project Cars on PC does not need to be set to ultra on all parameters to impress. And that is even more true in multi-monitor configuration.

    On my side, I prefer to keep a stable frame rate in all situations and lower some graphic options than the alternative solution... A 30+ cars grid with rain condition and damages activated is not the right time to face fps drops !
     
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  15. Schumi-01

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    Afternoon all, still undecided what spec PC to go for, would i benefit more from a i7 instead of an i5, or would an i5 be quite sufficient, just trying to save a few pounds, i wont be going for the triple monitor set up, just using my Tv.

    thanks
     
  16. alphabetagaga

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    are you building yourself? if not, who are you buying from? i'm thinking about buying mine soon
     
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    No unfortunately, i don't have the talent or know how , to build one myself, i had one built from PcSpecialist, last year for my nephew, great service, a bit expensive as they build them with what you want, just undecided whether to go for an i5 or an i7.
     
  18. alphabetagaga

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    good stuff. i had pcspecialist down as my 1st choice so thanks for the recommendation :tup: it'll be an i7 for me i think as my main use apart from pc will be fsx
     
  19. Schumi-01

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    Your welcome, i think for a couple of £ more i might go for the i7 myself, as for PCSpecialist, yes, very good indeed, really cannot fault them. Now roll on release date.
     
  20. thedottore46

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    My can w/o OC (and pretty cramped..), so yours can as well ;)

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  21. Johnnypenso

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    You never mentioned what videocard you were looking at.
     
  22. Schumi-01

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    Oops sorry, it is the Nvidia Geforce Gtx 970 .

    This is what i have without the processor as of yet.

    COOLERMASTER CM690 III ADVANCED CASE (GREEN)
    Motherboard Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 3: ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, XFIRE/SLI
    Memory (RAM) 8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X FURY DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz (1 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 970 - 1 DVI, 1 mHDMI, 3 mDP - 3D Vision Ready
    2nd Graphics Card NONE
    3rd Graphics Card NONE
    1st Hard Disk 240GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
    2nd Hard Disk 1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

    thanks
     
  23. Johnnypenso

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    That's pretty much the same as my recent build, just a couple of the manufacturers are different. I went with the i7 4790k but not because I thought I needed to or it was recommended, just because it was only an extra $100 and I thought, "what the heck, my first custom build, let's do this up right!":lol: . The i5 4690k would have done just as well with the rest of the system but the i7 hopefully means no CPU upgrade for me for a few years with any luck.
     
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  24. Flying_Kefran

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    It is a nice configuration.

    Here are my advices:

    1/ When I build a new PC, I generally plan it to have 2 GPU evolutions.
    Therefore, initially, I favor the motherboard and CPU over the GPU: better have a future-proof CPU than GPU !

    In your case, I would go for an I7, potentially, the "big" ones such as 4790K.
    To compensate, you could buy your rig without GPU (donit be afraid, installing a graphic card is the easiest upgrade you can do in a modern PC ! ) and buy a second hand GTX 780 (non TI) to install it yourself. It has very similar performances compared to a GTX 970 but you should pay it 130-150 euros less (and it stays nvidia as it seems your preferred option). Budget should stay more less the same than your original plan.

    2/ For the RAM, I think 2*4 gb memory or 4*2 gb would be better than 1*8 gb.

    Enjoy ! It is always fun to select components for a new PC.
     
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  25. blowfishrulez

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    You will be quite happy :cheers:
     
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  26. Schumi-01

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    Thanks, so really it is better to stick with the i7 then, at least it will last a good couple of years, without the need to upgrade.

    Thanks again, will definitely see if i can change the ram to 2*4gb instead of 1*8gb, thanks also for the advice on the graphics card will check it out, but the 970 is my preferred option.

    Thanks both.
     
  27. rocafella1978

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    Gentlemen! I did pull the trigger for the following!!!

    - Corsair Graphite Series 730T Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Gaming Case

    - Corsair AXi series AX1200i 1200W Digital ATX12V v2.31 and EPS 2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready

    - ASUS RAMPAGE V EXTREME/U3.1 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard

    - Intel Core i7-5930K Haswell-E 6-Core 3.5GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W BX80648I75930K Desktop Processor

    - Noctua NH-U12 S for Intel LGA 2011,1156,1155,1150 and AMD AM2/AM2+/AM3/3+,FM1/2 Sockets, U Type, 5 Heatpipe,120mm CPU Cooler Cooling

    - Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4-24000) Desktop Memory Model CMD16GX4M4B3000C15

    - NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GD5 12GB

    - SAMSUNG 850 PRO MZ-7KE512BW 2.5" 512GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

    - Seagate Hybrid Drives STCL4000400 4TB MLC/8GB SATA 6.0Gb/s NCQ Desktop SSHD

    - ASUS Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS

    - Nippon Labs USB 2.0 Internal Memory Card Reader 3.5" All In One ICR-BB
     
  28. Myles Prower

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    Well I'm guessing we know someone who can run PCARS at 12K
     
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    Not with a single TITAN X...
     
  30. Myles Prower

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    You could with low settings