Red Dead Redemption 2

[Pete05]

When I was growing up we only had Pong... so no issues with framerate for me .

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When I was growing up if you had pong, you needed a shower

 

[DVNTST8]

Files just hit my system for download.

92.742GB(99+ hours left....as bad as my internet is, it might take the entire week)

 

[Spacegoat]

Launch Trailer

Have to say that after watching this for the second (okay, third) time. Easily the best part about the trailer, is hearing John Marston's voice again.

Can it be next week already?

 

[Pete05]

Have to say that after watching this for the second (okay, third) time. Easily the best part about the trailer, is hearing John Marston’s voice again.


Can it be next week already?

FTFY

 

[Zipperface]

Damn, even pong was running at higher framerate! As child i played pong on the BSS 01, a console made in GDR
My problem is : Once you go 60fps you never go back LOL I can remember RDR1 on ps3, such a great game but soo poor performance, later buyed the x360 version, wich was running bit smoother.

 

[Whitestar]

I guess you guys are not that old. I am from a generation that didnt see the importance of fps over gameplay. I mean movies play at 24 fps. GTA5 runs at 30 fps and honestly 30 fps is more then enough for most singleplayer games.

Honestly, no it's not. . To me having 60 fps is an important part of the gameplay, at least in action games. I'm from generation X myself and I've always been a bit "sensitive" to motion smoothness on the screen. Which is why I also preferred the smooth sprite movement on the C64 over the more choppy one on my own Amstrad CPC 464, especially in sideways-scrolling games. Guess I'm a kind of smoothness fetishist so probably in the minority here.

That said, it does depend a bit on the game though. I'm not going to say that all games require 60 fps.

 

[Slapped]

I guess you guys are not that old. I am from a generation that didnt see the importance of fps over gameplay. I mean movies play at 24 fps. GTA5 runs at 30 fps and honestly 30 fps is more then enough for most singleplayer games.

Yes and no.

30 fps, but no lower, is perfectly fine for me when play 3rd person open world stuff, real time, or turn based strategy, or basically anything that doesn't need the twitchiest of twitch reflexes, or absolute precision timing. With most of those types of game I wouldn't even notice if they're not running at 60 fps.

However it has to be a minimum 60 fps for anything that's cockpit, or first person based. I simply cannot play DriveClub as it's locked to 30 fps and I find it eye tearing. Also fighting games ala Tekken and modern schmups need to be at 60 fps for me to enjoy them.

So it's really entirely genre dependent for me. I'm also an early Gen-Xer, and I think you need to consider the fact that a fair few of the early arcade machines that I cut my teeth on, especially those utilising vector graphics, were indeed running at 50 to 60 fps.

 

[PocketZeven]

Been playing GTA 5 (PS4) to get in the mood. I played half through GTA5 on the ps3 a long time ago and it really looks impressive on the PS4. I just hope I dont need to grind too much for some decent money to buy the things I want in RDR 2. In GTA5 it is quite easy to accumilate money.

 

[Spacegoat]

FTFY

Curse my spelling. Thank you. 👍

 

[Northstar]

The game is installed on my XB1, which is kind of odd as I've only just now hooked up an ethernet port and it's had a hard time connecting to my wifi lately.

Oh well, the important thing is that all 100GB are there in their western themed glory!

I just hope I dont need to grind too much for some decent money to buy the things I want in RDR 2.

If the side stuff is similar to the first one it shouldn't be too bad. I know I had an insane amount of money just from all the gambling, hunting, gathering and bounty hunting I did (never did care for the mini games like pinfinger though) so with even more stuff to do it should be easy to accumulate a decent chunk of cash.

 

[DDastardly00]

I think this game will be so much fun that grinding won't feel like grinding at all. Even the poker from the last RDR was fun enough to play it for lengths of time, and it was also a good money maker. I hope they are bring back Poker and the quick draw gun duels too.

 

[FPV MIC]

23 seconds of leaked footage (if it hasn't been taken down yet)

https://my.mixtape.moe/pcszbl.mp4

 

[noshog]

Trying not to get hyped, trying not to see any info etc etc....But cant help but be hyped for this, the countdown is on.
I just pre-ordered the standard version.
Even if this is only half as good as RDR1 it will still be a great game.
It also comes out a day before my birthday...So I asked for at least 12hrs free from the family for my birthday....Thats acceptable yeah ?

 

[Spacegoat]

It's going to become very hard to avoid the temptation of watching gameplay footage. Dying to see this game in action but also very fearful of spoilers. #FirstWorldProblems

So I asked for at least 12hrs free from the family for my birthday....Thats acceptable yeah ?

1000%. 👍

 

[Pete05]

Trying not to get hyped, trying not to see any info etc etc....But cant help but be hyped for this, the countdown is on.
I just pre-ordered the standard version.
Even if this is only half as good as RDR1 it will still be a great game.
It also comes out a day before my birthday...So I asked for at least 12hrs free from the family for my birthday....Thats acceptable yeah ?

What do you think it is? You’re Birthday isn’t all about you Mister. Try not to be so selfish.

*sarcasm

 

[Wolfe]

I never tried RDR1, I guess mainly because the praise it received frequently revolved around its story and I have never gotten anything out of the storytelling in games like this -- GTA, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, etc. If the story is what RDR is about, I was convinced it wasn't for me.

Now, I couldn't help but pick up on some of the gameplay features and attention to detail in RDR2, so I'm kind of caught by surprise in considering it. I'm also looking for something new to play at the moment. I've long desired to play something that simulates an open wilderness and survival to a level of detail and agency like what I'm reading with this.

 

[Pete05]

I never tried RDR1, I guess mainly because the praise it received frequently revolved around its story and I have never gotten anything out of the storytelling in games like this -- GTA, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, etc. If the story is what RDR is about, I was convinced it wasn't for me.

Now, I couldn't help but pick up on some of the gameplay features and attention to detail in RDR2, so I'm kind of caught by surprise in considering it. I'm also looking for something new to play at the moment. I've long desired to play something that simulates an open wilderness and survival to a level of detail and agency like what I'm reading with this.

@Wolfe

If you have ever, even remotely, wanted to go for a ride on a horse through the wilderness or, imagined what it would've been like to live in the times of the Wild West, do yourself a huge favour and pick up a copy of RDR.
They're probably going for pocket change at the moment & whatever you pay will be well worth the hours of enjoyment.

Prior to my experience with RDR, I wouldn't have given anyone the time of the day in exchange for their copy of the game. I was strictly a motor racing simulator guy only. I only own one single RPG & RDR is it. The free roam capabilities alone are worth every dollar.

 

[Wolfe]

@Pete05 -- I think this sequel is more likely the one for me, but I appreciate the feedback on the foundation this game is building from. My Xbox 360 has been shelved anyway.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Very compelling article about RDR 2. Wasn't completely convinced I wanted this until I read it.

RDR 1 was incredible not because of it's story (though I enjoyed it), but because of its atmosphere, its deep open-world experience, its detail, and it's unique ability for the player to engage and interact with the world. RDR2 appears to be cranking those elements to 11.

I remember this heinous thing I did in RDR1. I was playing poker with a group of NPCs. I lost a large bet to one particular NPC who subsequently said something snide. I lost my temper a bit. I roped him up (in full view of the horrified onlookers), threw him onto the back of my horse, and took him deep into the forest above Hennigan's stead. I then dumped a bottle of animal bait on him and waited for the predators as he struggled. To disclose fully, I don't actually remember if it worked or not (as in, I don't remember if a bear or pack of wolves came and finished him off) but the ability to set that up in a completely organically was something very special. By everything I've read, RDR2 will expand on these kinds of fluid interactions with the game world.

 

[Slapped]

...I was playing poker with a group of NPCs. I lost a large bet to one particular NPC who subsequently said something snide. I lost my temper a bit. I roped him up (in full view of the horrified onlookers), threw him onto the back of my horse, and took him deep into the forest above Hennigan's stead. I then dumped a bottle of animal bait on him and waited for the predators as he struggled. To disclose fully, I don't actually remember if it worked or not (as in, I don't remember if a bear or pack of wolves came and finished him off) but the ability to set that up in a completely organically was something very special. By everything I've read, RDR2 will expand on these kinds of fluid interactions with the game world.

Remind me to never play Poker with you.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

The other thing I absolutely loved about the first game (and file this one under ATMOSPHERE) was the fragmented & dynamic ambient soundtrack. You never got a full piece of music, but you picked up what felt like discarded jetsam of musical riffs. They would come and pass as if with the wind. Somebody has uploaded these to youtube and I sometime watch them just to kind of go back.





What Rockstar does better than anyone else is create a sense of place and inhabitation. So far away from the cold and purely-visceral open world of something like Forza Horizon.

 

[Northstar]

Is it Friday yet?

The other thing I absolutely loved about the first game (and file this one under ATMOSPHERE) was the fragmented & dynamic ambient soundtrack. You never got a full piece of music, but you picked up what felt like discarded jetsam of musical riffs. They would come and pass as if with the wind. Somebody has uploaded these to youtube and I sometime watch them just to kind of go back.





What Rockstar does better than anyone else is create a sense of place and inhabitation. So far away from the cold and purely-visceral open world of something like Forza Horizon.

RDR is probably the only game I've played for extended periods without my own music playing in the background. Which is kind of the opposite of what you would expect since there isn't a traditional game soundtrack like in most games. I also remember getting chills when alone in the desert and suddenly you hear whistling.

Hopefully they manage to capture that atmosphere in the second one as well.

 

[Spacegoat]

but because of its atmosphere,

Honestly, don't think I've ever played a game that's captured the atmosphere of it's setting, as well as RDR did. Really made you feel like you were actually in early 20th century America.

Is it Friday yet?

It's getting there, slowly.

 

[Pete05]

Very compelling article about RDR 2. Wasn't completely convinced I wanted this until I read it.

RDR 1 was incredible not because of it's story (though I enjoyed it), but because of its atmosphere, its deep open-world experience, its detail, and it's unique ability for the player to engage and interact with the world. RDR2 appears to be cranking those elements to 11.

I remember this heinous thing I did in RDR1. I was playing poker with a group of NPCs. I lost a large bet to one particular NPC who subsequently said something snide. I lost my temper a bit. I roped him up (in full view of the horrified onlookers), threw him onto the back of my horse, and took him deep into the forest above Hennigan's stead. I then dumped a bottle of animal bait on him and waited for the predators as he struggled. To disclose fully, I don't actually remember if it worked or not (as in, I don't remember if a bear or pack of wolves came and finished him off) but the ability to set that up in a completely organically was something very special. By everything I've read, RDR2 will expand on these kinds of fluid interactions with the game world.

I found a link to another comprehensive article, as I was reading the link you posted.

This one comes with a couple of gameplay videos & a list of characters in the game. The excitement is building people. Enjoy.

https://www.vg247.com/2018/10/16/red-dead-redemption-2-gameplay-online-pc-features-screens-demo/

 

[MatskiMonk]

The other thing I absolutely loved about the first game (and file this one under ATMOSPHERE) was the fragmented & dynamic ambient soundtrack.

Was definitely incredibly effective, but I'd also give a shout out to the few songs that were on the soundtrack too, their placement in the game was spot on.

 

[Zipperface]

Damn, bought the digital ps4 version yesterday.
Now playing games at locked 30fps to prepare my eyes&brain for the incoming pain HAHA
33 hours left, then release!

 

[DVNTST8]

Files just hit my system for download.

92.742GB(99+ hours left....as bad as my internet is, it might take the entire week)

I know, replying to my own post, but....

Due to my rural satellite internet connection, it took almost exactly 40 hours to download just the game.

Three add ons still waiting for start to download.

 

[Wolfe]

Good looking open world games are everywhere these days, but they’re only getting prettier – nothing has attempted to advance physics and AI in the way Rockstar is here. With visual improvements offering decreasing returns and with a new generation of hardware on the horizon, Rockstar may once again have created the next step in the evolution of the triple-A open world.

I've been saying something like this for years. You want me to care about more processing power? Put it to work like this.

RDR is probably the only game I've played for extended periods without my own music playing in the background. Which is kind of the opposite of what you would expect since there isn't a traditional game soundtrack like in most games. I also remember getting chills when alone in the desert and suddenly you hear whistling.

Hopefully they manage to capture that atmosphere in the second one as well.

That's a tough consideration! Having an engaging soundtrack is a huge part of the experience of gaming for me. The lightweight soundtrack in Breath of the Wild was pleasant enough and similarly atmospheric, but left me wanting for a more conventional soundtrack.

I'll give RDR2 a fair chance, probably pause my own music for set-piece missions/events, but I can already imagine the Xenoblade soundtracks as a backdrop for roaming the wilderness.

 

[PocketZeven]

I know, replying to my own post, but....

Due to my rural satellite internet connection, it took almost exactly 40 hours to download just the game.

Three add ons still waiting for start to download.

Hard to imagine living in a place with internet that slow. Glad you can make it work!

 

[Northstar]

but I can already imagine the Xenoblade soundtracks as a backdrop for roaming the wilderness.

Random roaming or doing odd jobs like horse taming was probably the lone exception where I would turn on some music. However when doing missions or hunting it just felt more immersive to only use the in-game soundtrack.

Obviously you should play it the way that results in you enjoying it the most though!