Shouldn't PD (Or Sony, since they're the publishers) get more people to help to make Gran Turismo?

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I don't know... i just think that having only 2-3 people to work on the AI isn't good since GT's AI is complex to make it good.
 
if they hired more people, then they wouldnt profit as much from a game that is not 100% complete.
 
More people at PD won't necessarily solve any problems. It could just encourage them to promise even more things they won't deliver and put the new staff on fruitless projects we'll never see in the game. A well organized team could always use new blood, but a disorganized floundering one will simply continue to flounder.
 
Yeah I think it is less than 150. For such a big franchise it need more specialist and new guys as well
 
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They are simply out of touch and it would require competition to understand it, they are clearly complacent.

Project Cars needs to blow GT out of the ball park for the sake of GT making a decent edition again.
 
You know what i find weird? These are the games that turned people into professional racers.
I'm sorry, but GT still needs more upgrades to become the true "Real Driving Simulator"
I think i might even SKIP GT7 if nothing changes.
 
If they outsourced some of the car builds to 3rd parties, they would then have more time to spend on other things. The guys in the video below done a good job, & I'm guessing that there are many other talented people out there who could do the same.



https://www.gtplanet.net/looking-beyond-gran-turismo-5/
 
Sony should take the axe to the majority of PD's development team (particularly the sound and AI guys) and bring in fresh blood, even if they're from Europe or America.
 
The problem isn't PD its Kaz and his game testers at fault. Lets face facts here GT is Mr Kaz's enterprise if you will but instead of honing it fine tuning it making it better he prefers or gives the impression that his actual passion is being a race car driver which GT as a franchise helped fund, Now I have no problem with this its a clever way to get a race seat and make friends with manufactures my problem is that it seems to have taken over and GT has been somewhat forgotten, If it wasn't for the GT franchise I highly doubt Kaz would be partaking in races or be friendly with some of the most productive manufacturers in the world.

And now for the game testers, I am sorry but I have to be blunt about this are they a bunch of monkeys ?, If I had the chance to I would happily take over from them and point out what isn't good enough, A recurring problem being sounds, What is the darned difficulty in testing a car in game and actually going to the sound dept and saying its not good enough do it again ?

So truth be told I don't think PD need more people they need structure and insight, They have a boss who is too busy pretending to be a real racing driver, A sound dept that are for the most part totally inept, If PD do need anything its someone in public relations.
 
The problem is they're stubborn. Kaz has said on record he likes a smaller team on purpose, doesn't want to outsource anything and likes to keep the same staff since GT1 days. This is surely part of the reason why the game hasn't moved forward a great deal in 15 years.
 
Samus
The problem is they're stubborn. Kaz has said on record he likes a smaller team on purpose, doesn't want to outsource anything and likes to keep the same staff since GT1 days. This is surely part of the reason why the game hasn't moved forward a great deal in 15 years.
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I got a GREAT word to define this: Tradition.

And it's safe to say that their tradition of making GT is getting very old. Sorry PD, but this isn't 2004 anymore.
 
I don't think Kaz would allow it unfortunately, he still stands by his idea of a crack team of programming wizards to help him build a vision.
 
bluecharger
I'll complain about their game; I'll suggest features for their game; I'm not about to tell them how to make their game.
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That's commendable. But hey, apparently people here are so desperate to see Yamauchi sacked...

Like it or not, Yamauchi = Gran Turismo. With another guy leading the charge, it just wouldn't be the same. Besides, Kaz isn't the CEO of Polyphony Digital. He owns it. And Japan it's not America, you can't sack the guy who owns the place.
 
I had faith in PD right until GT6.

When I first played GT6, I enjoyed it but that later dropped slowly until I saw what racing games I could be playing in the future (real (Pcars etc.) or arcade/cartooning (MK8 etc.)) My interest then just completely dropped to 0. I can't even touch my copy of GT6 without hesitation.

I think most of it is due to the PS3 GTs aren't even anything new, I went back to GT4 for nostalgia only for it to feel like GT5 and GT6. The driving and A.I is better done in GT5P, also. If a game makes me go play a Prologue version of it (I also count GT5P as the prologue to GT6), it has serious problems, IMO and with more racing games coming out with fresh and exotic gameplay styles and ideas, GT is just going to look like a franchise that never aged.

Kaz needs to get more people in with new and creative ideas to push the series to todays standards instead of being stuck in the early 2000s.
 
This is the biggest problem with PD IMO. They are woefully understaffed for what they are trying to achieve and they lack a project manager. Kaz has great vision, but we need another person who can take charge of the mission. I feel Kaz is so stubborn in keeping the old team for quality control and consistency (in terms of car/track modelling), but surely there are plenty of talented modellers out there who are as passionate as his team. At the very least they could train them to be as proficient. What's gonna happen when some of his staff starts to retire? At the current rate, Kaz's stubbornness is what's keeping him from reaching his own vision. A bit sad really.
 
Samus
The problem is they're stubborn. Kaz has said on record he likes a smaller team on purpose, doesn't want to outsource anything and likes to keep the same staff since GT1 days. This is surely part of the reason why the game hasn't moved forward a great deal in 15 years.
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There is a saying "You can't have a Rainbow without a little rain".

I believe Kaz needs to put up with a larger team (as well as get more people) to make his "vision" come true.
 
ClydeYellow
That's commendable. But hey, apparently people here are so desperate to see Yamauchi sacked...

Like it or not, Yamauchi = Gran Turismo. With another guy leading the charge, it just wouldn't be the same. Besides, Kaz isn't the CEO of Polyphony Digital. He owns it. And Japan it's not America, you can't sack the guy who owns the place.
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Bill Gates = Microsoft, Steve Jobs = Apple, these are just some examples. Without them, the companies aren't the same, but are still successful as ever. Regardless, the market today shows that changing CEOs through time as their business model falls short is a successful approach.
 
Would the Rolling Stones get more satisfaction if they had four drummers, seven lead guitarists and a midget Mick Jagger?
 
What Gran Turismo really needs is a trouble shooter sent in to PD with authority by Sony to kick them into shape. Someone unbiased who can communicate between "PD World" & reality. Someone who knows how to gather customer feedback from sites like this, digest it, & then implement needed changes. Someone who doesn't think that being able to drive on the moon is a priority in a driving simulator.
 
VBR
What Gran Turismo really needs is a trouble shooter sent in to PD with authority by Sony to kick them into shape. Someone unbiased who can communicate between "PD World" & reality. Someone who knows how to gather customer feedback from sites like this, digest it, & then implement needed changes. Someone who doesn't think that being able to drive on the moon is a priority in a driving simulator.
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When you read the Codie Grid Autosport blog and see how they incorporated fan feedback into the development of the new game and read the feedback from the PCars members, it really drives home how far PD is out of the loop when it comes to customer feedback. An absolute mountain of tiny, easy to fix issues could be out of the way already if they only communicated with fans and established clearly that they were listening, cared, and were proactive.
 
I read on a business blog that PDs head count is 110 !

I would imagine 99 of them are in marketing department because they are good that :D
 

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