So 1.11 is out are we happy?

[GTGuy-97]

Was already happy with the game anyway apart from a few minor nigglings here and there so this update makes it better again.

Can’t wait until they actually start putting in new cars, more events/races etc.

 

[nicefrog]

Cool. I'm unsure how you can like gravel that thinks its ice, but you go right ahead and enjoy it. I'll continue to want it removed or entirely overhauled as it isn't rally in the slightest.

The dirt pyshics have been exactly the same wince they were first introduced in a GT game and they were terrible even then lol. I'm with you on having that removed and never to be seen again. It's a stain on the otherwise.. 3 out of 10 demo of a game we got

Was already happy with the game anyway apart from a few minor nigglings here and there so this update makes it better again.

Can’t wait until they actually start putting in new cars, more events/races etc.

If they patch in some of the cut content that they never got done in time for release day like Apricot Hill and Apricot hill reverse then I'll give them another half a point to 3.5 /10

 

[Terronium-12]

The dirt pyshics have been exactly the same wince they were first introduced in a GT game and they were terrible even then lol. I'm with you on having that removed and never to be seen again. It's a stain on the otherwise.. 3 out of 10 demo of a game we got

See, this is where either my memory is playing tricks on me or the gravel physics have worsened over time because I don't remember hating rally in GT3 anywhere to the same degree. Or at all, even. I definitely didn't hate rally in GT2.

 

[Samus]

See, this is where either my memory is playing tricks on me or the gravel physics have worsened over time because I don't remember hating rally in GT3 anywhere to the same degree. Or at all, even. I definitely didn't hate rally in GT2.

It's definitely always had that lack of bite, that "This just feels like a slippery icy tarmac surface, not gravel" feel.

 

[wheelhp]

I mean, I can't be happy since the game did launch horribly, so it'll take a lot more of these "nice" updates to undo all the terror lol. If eveyone and Kaz is right on the right track 4-6 months in, THEN I will be happy Till then all bets off

 

[HornetX1]

Circuit de la Sarthe should be 3 million credits flt the all gold circuit experience, not 1 million.

Nurburg Nord is 5 mil... But Monza, Red Bull Ring, Nurburg GP, & others are all 1 mil.

So why is Sarthe only 1 mil?

 

[Tenacious D]

Happy? This place?? It's like a non-stop political discussion.

 

[Terronium-12]

It's definitely always had that lack of bite, that "This just feels like a slippery icy tarmac surface, not gravel" feel.

Man, I really have to play GT3 again.

 

[wheelhp]

See, this is where either my memory is playing tricks on me or the gravel physics have worsened over time because I don't remember hating rally in GT3 anywhere to the same degree. Or at all, even. I definitely didn't hate rally in GT2.

I've a similar recollection. I almost liked GT3 rally, just that it didn't feel great to just drive y'know it lacked something. It never felt anywhere near as satisfying to drive compared to say WRC: Rally Evolved or Richard burns Rally; also for the PS2. GT7 is a mess however.

 

[regnar]

PD depiction of a dirt surface feels more like hard compacted ice, where everything is solid with no give, a real dirt road is going to have areas that are soft/broken up & instead of the vehicle sliding, it's going to get bogged down a bit.

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

Circuit de la Sarthe should be 3 million credits flt the all gold circuit experience, not 1 million.

Nurburg Nord is 5 mil... But Monza, Red Bull Ring, Nurburg GP, & others are all 1 mil.

So why is Sarthe only 1 mil?

Maybe because a lot of it is straight line and PD thought it wasnt difficult to complete it while I've seen a lot of post saying Nurburgring is really hard now (didnt went to do it yet). There was even a post saying that the OP believed 99% of people wouldnt be able to gold that circuit expercience. So I'm guessing that's why the Nurb is 5 mil. And lets be honest, La Sarthe is not really technical, its just that it last 24h and it's hard on the cars because you're at full power a long period of time and you have traffic to manage.

 

[ProfDoobverk]

What is this "happy" you speak of? I know of no such thing 🤔

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

I'm amused that the endurance missions are called "The Human Comedy".

Kaz's vision for the game was long haul - earn credits over hours of gameplay to buy cars. We obviously disagreed and wanted better payouts. The result is people now making millions of credits in a handful of races, when the majority of cars are less than a million credits (exceptions being halo cars and legendaries).

Kaz knows this ruins his long haul vision for the games economy. Kaz knows we'll soon have every car we want, and a number of players will get bored and move on to other games, but he gave us what we demanded anyway.

That is the human comedy.

 

[Zathra5_]

Kaz knows this ruins his long haul vision for the games economy. Kaz knows we'll soon have every car we want, and a number of players will get bored and move on to other games, but he gave us what we demanded anyway.

That is the human comedy.

If your driving/racing game relies on keeping cars scarce to keep players from getting bored, your game has bigger issues than the economy.

 

[RichiPuppy]

It is definitely a step in the right direction.

 

[RichiPuppy]

I'm amused that the endurance missions are called "The Human Comedy".

Kaz's vision for the game was long haul - earn credits over hours of gameplay to buy cars. We obviously disagreed and wanted better payouts. The result is people now making millions of credits in a handful of races, when the majority of cars are less than a million credits (exceptions being halo cars and legendaries).

Kaz knows this ruins his long haul vision for the games economy. Kaz knows we'll soon have every car we want, and a number of players will get bored and move on to other games, but he gave us what we demanded anyway.

That is the human comedy.

The game before was more of a human comedy. One where fans like me, who have been playing GT Sport, or some GT game, since the beginning with having all the cars, was seriously thinking of just stopping and playing some other game. Pretty funny huh?

 

[lqpl]

New update? Cool story.. I drew a cat...

 

[SnuggleMaster]

No not really but it helps.

I have different complaints..like no races that even require super license?

The last championship was the beginning and end of GT racing thus far. The game is not even finished imo. Where are the Gr.2 and Gr.1 races?

Why do we have the stupid VGT cars but are racing Gr.3 cars that are 2 and 3 generations behind in some cases.

Ferrari (my fav I will admit) has been racing the 488 for 6 YEARS and just announced its next car that will race in 2023. We still are using the 458....???

But at least I have a tomahawk???

 

[Nielsen]

I don’t understand why the economy changes only had to affect the “latter half” of events in World Circuits. Especially not after the letter from Kaz in which he explained why certain events had their payouts nerfed, or balanced in line with other events. Back then he said they wanted to avoid a situation where players mechanically grind specific events in order to maximize credits earnings, but I’d say the latest patch is promoting this behavior by only increasing payouts in the latter half of World Circuits.

I want to make GT7 a game in which you can enjoy a variety of cars lots of different ways, and if possible would like to try to avoid a situation where a player must mechanically keep replaying certain events over and over again.

Letter from Kaz

Then why suddenly leave Sunday Cup, Clubman Cup, FF, FR, etc. in a position where these lack more replay value than ever?

 

[queleuleu]

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[queleuleu]

Man, I really have to play GT3 again.

It's still fun, the rally mode is miles better than GTSport. I played it again last year and Tahiti Maze + Evo VII is some of my best memory of GT3. I see it like a Sega Rally mode in Gran Turismo. Now, I can't stand the handling in GTSport, even if the new group B cars look so cool.

 

[kjb]

I am mostly satisfied mostly by the expansion of the amount of cars avaialble in the UCD & LCD. Hopefully they will some more events to better fit the wide range of cars available in the game.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

I don’t understand why the economy changes only had to affect the “latter half” of events in World Circuits. Especially not after the letter from Kaz in which he explained why certain events had their payouts nerfed, or balanced in line with other events. Back then he said they wanted to avoid a situation where players mechanically grind specific events in order to maximize credits earnings, but I’d say the latest patch is promoting this behavior by only increasing payouts in the latter half of World Circuits.


Letter from Kaz

Then why suddenly leave Sunday Cup, Clubman Cup, FF, FR, etc. in a position where these lack more replay value than ever?

I think either which way he cuts it, people will still find the easiest race to grind for the maximum payout. Adjusting payouts for the latter half of the WT races ensures that the harder races are the ones that payout more, not the easier ones

 

[Nielsen]

I think either which way he cuts it, people will still find the easiest race to grind for the maximum payout. Adjusting payouts for the latter half of the WT races ensures that the harder races are the ones that payout more, not the easier ones

The WTC races aren’t the only ones that received higher payouts. Ferrari Challenge, Porsche Cup, Race of Turbo, etc. now also pay better than before the update. These aren’t much different to Clubman Cup 700, but this is still stuck with the old payouts. It’s not logical.

 

[Dave A]

See, this is where either my memory is playing tricks on me or the gravel physics have worsened over time because I don't remember hating rally in GT3 anywhere to the same degree. Or at all, even. I definitely didn't hate rally in GT2.

GT3 had the most fun rallying in any GT game in my opinion. I don't recall it being amazing in any of them, but after GT3 I felt that it definitely started to go downhill and the grip levels seemed to drop off a cliff.

GT4 had the best rally and special tracks, but I hated the penalty (fortuantely it can be switched off with a cheat code) and the cars slid far too much for my liking.

 

[Boxster]

GT3 had the most fun rallying in any GT game in my opinion. I don't recall it being amazing in any of them, but after GT3 I felt that it definitely started to go downhill and the grip levels seemed to drop off a cliff.

GT4 had the best rally and special tracks, but I hated the penalty (fortuantely it can be switched off with a cheat code) and the cars slid far too much for my liking.

I simply don't like the rally circuits in GT7. Gimme Eiger trail back.

 

[R3V]

Answering this would need some math. Total money for golding everything + an arbitrary number of hours for grinding (15?) should equal the value of all non-gifted cars.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

The WTC races aren’t the only ones that received higher payouts. Ferrari Challenge, Porsche Cup, Race of Turbo, etc. now also pay better than before the update. These aren’t much different to Clubman Cup 700, but this is still stuck with the old payouts. It’s not logical.

Aren't those races also chili pepper races with harder difficulty than Clubman Cup 700?

 

[Nielsen]

Aren't those races also chili pepper races with harder difficulty than Clubman Cup 700?

I don’t think so, but not sure.

 

[DigitalRelay]

I was already happy with the game and having an awesome time racing friends in the Lay-Z-Boy racing league. Being able to earn credits easier is a nice bonus. I don't know why, but I'm still surprised at the level of complaining about this game.