[The McLaren Thread]-Welcoming The Name And The F1 To Gran Turismo!

[eSZee]

F1 isn't the same as the F1GTR so I'm not sure what some of you are trying to get at.
And no it doesn't take 6 months to model just one car.

 

[speedfreak69]

That whole thing "single person-6 months" is bunch of PR bullcrap to justify the eons it takes to finnish this game and to further enhance their image as perfectionists!
I have done some work in 3D, and I know some people who can do crazy stuff with 3D programs that I can't even dream up, and I can tell you that it sure as hell doesn't take that long!
Caveat: Maybe, if they have beginners or retards working there, then yes.

 

[Leadfoot53]

Something random I thought of, is that if there is a team of twenty people working on one car, it would take a little less than 10 days to model one car. Multiply that by 1,000 (amount of cars), and you would get 10,000 days to make 1,000 cars. That would be 27.4 years. I would think that maybe they have 10 teams to make cars. That would make 2.4 years to model 1,000 cars! Even if my figures are off, that is a reasonable amount of time to make 1,000 cars with the quality of PD

EDIT: Slight mistake... 20x10 would be 200! Change it to 5 teams, and you still have 4.8 years... That hasn't been that long past that!

 

[G.T.Ace]

Perhaps you may want to read my post again.

I never said Eden was Japanese. I said they were one of the few companies who have already spent time with the MP4-12C. Read.

Yeah i know, just wanted to point that out since you used them as an example. Dont know any Japanese team working on a car game beside PD atm anyway.

 

[Peter]

Kaz has said a million times already, no DLC in GT5, so either it's in at release, or later on in an update, or not tat all.

 

[Northstar]

Kaz has said a million times already, no DLC in GT5, so either it's in at release, or later on in an update, or not tat all.

Kaz also said GT4 would have online and that he could beat Chuck Norris in a staring contest.

(One is true, the other is not)

 

[Imari]

Something random I thought of, is that if there is a team of twenty people working on one car, it would take a little less than 10 days to model one car. Multiply that by 1,000 (amount of cars), and you would get 10,000 days to make 1,000 cars. That would be 27.4 years. I would think that maybe they have 10 teams to make cars. That would make 2.4 years to model 1,000 cars! Even if my figures are off, that is a reasonable amount of time to make 1,000 cars with the quality of PD

EDIT: Slight mistake... 20x10 would be 200! Change it to 5 teams, and you still have 4.8 years... That hasn't been that long past that!

Remember that a substantial proportion of the cars in GT are visually identical or have minor body differences. For example, they count several different kinds of R33 GTR as unique, when visually all that's unique is maybe the paint scheme. And the visual differences between a R33 GTR and a normal R33 are not large.

I doubt they've had to model more than 800 unique cars.

 

[Seismica]

It takes a single person 6 months.
Think for yourself, 1000 cars, 6 months each... wouldnt work right?

It takes one person alone around 6 months for one car. Considering they have 100-150 staff modelling at any one time, that works out about right.

To make the damage model and customisation possible they had to model each car's parts individually. So the doors, hoods, bumpers, body panels will all have been modelled seperately and brought together in one piece. So they could in theory have several people working on one car at the same time. Obviously all cars have to be checked for quality and brought up to the standards required, so as long as the modellers are working to the same scale that would work. (I know very little about modelling btw... But I know this is how it sort of works)

So we'll probably see both of those cars in GT5 if that is true, and that is very good news It is not indicative of any DLC, though some sort of DLC is pretty much confirmed, becase in an article about the SEMA winner, it was announced the car would be added as DLC (Although that might have changed after the release was pushed back, I still think DLC is highly likely in the future).

Remember that a substantial proportion of the cars in GT are visually identical or have minor body differences. For example, they count several different kinds of R33 GTR as unique, when visually all that's unique is maybe the paint scheme. And the visual differences between a R33 GTR and a normal R33 are not large.

I doubt they've had to model more than 800 unique cars.

^This too.

 

[eSZee]

Kaz has said a million times already, no DLC in GT5, so either it's in at release, or later on in an update, or not tat all.

Actually, if you go by the context of the interview, he never said exactly what you're saying. It's more along the lines of no DLC for a while after release. Plus we already know that the 2009 SEMA GT contest winner's 1970 Mustang will be a DLC car so.....

 

[Seismica]

Actually, if you go by the context of the interview, he never said exactly what you're saying. It's more along the lines of no DLC for a while after release. Plus we already know that the 2009 SEMA GT contest winner's 1970 Mustang will be a DLC car so.....

That was before the delay There is an interview that states that all cars will be on the disc from release too, so until the game is released we can't be sure.

I think it works out right anyway, there is 5-6 months until the estimated game release, so both cars should be finished if this is true.

The 6 months includes the time it takes to test and photograph the cars too, it isn't just the modelling.

 

[Da-Bomber]

So only games with this car confirmed are
GT5
TDU 2
Forza 3

 

[Imari]

So only games with this car confirmed are
GT5
TDU 2
Forza 3

The MP4-12C? It's in Shift already as DLC.

Cue the whingers about how arcadey Shift is, but it's a lot better than a kick in the nuts.

 

[witham]

if any wants to know by the way the MP4-12C is being made in shoreham near the airport by Ricardos and it is so good, the engine note is loverly and the looks really grows on you the best colour by far is the orange and i hate it in red

By the way Shoreham is near Brighton in sussex

 

[daan]

In response to post 2:
My point wasnt that those cars will make it in the game. It's that the Polyphony crew was at Mclaren HQ TODAY, scanning and taking pics.
If the game is near completion, I do not see this as a good sign.

His point was that you should have used this thread instead of starting a new one.

 

[Goldrusher]

They probably got invited for the 12C launch, which was last week.

So they either couldn't make it then, or they requested a more private factory tour to take more reference photos, which can always come in handy.

 

[Blitz187]

...the looks really grows on you the best colour by far is the orange and i hate it in red

By the way Shoreham is near Brighton in sussex

Have you seen it in Matte Black yet?

 

[witham]

Have you seen it in Matte Black yet?

Nice i do like in black, i had seen it before but only when Leno drove it round the top gear test track and it had the white camo on it as well

 

[SrRd RacinG]

I like that metallic grey/black color. Reminds me of the FXX.

 

[Watevaman]

Kaz has said a million times already, no DLC in GT5, so either it's in at release, or later on in an update, or not tat all.

Unfortunately it's not Kaz that always has the decision.

 

[amar212]

Unfortunately it's not Kaz that always has the decision.

Fortunately, as the Gran Turismo series is in concern, ONLY Kazunori Yamauchi has the decision regarding anything. Always. And thank God for that.

 

[G.T.Ace]

Fortunately, as the Gran Turismo series is in concern, ONLY Kazunori Yamauchi has the decision regarding anything. Always. And thank God for that.

If this is really true i agree.
We all know what happend to GT2, i would really like to know what a game it wouldve been if it came 6-12 months later.


EDIT: Hm, thinking again about this, 12 months wouldve been too much because of the PS2 launch.

 

[TokyoDrift]

Kaz has said a million times already, no DLC in GT5, so either it's in at release, or later on in an update, or not tat all.

Of course GT5 has no DLC, it hasn't even released yet. Besides, doesn't "later on in an update" constitute content that has been downloaded?

While I can't say for fact that it will not have DLC that you have to pay for, I can say for fact that if they do NOT provide it, PD and SONY need to sack a few key decision makers. It's a license to print money, especially when they can charge maybe 10% of what the person paid in the first place for just a few cars, or a track, with none of the distribution and supply chain hassles.

 

[Dave A]

I'm sure Kaz simply said a while back that there were no plans for DLC, and that GT5 would be a complete package on the disk. That's a far cry from stating that there will categorically be no DLC content. I'm pretty certain that there will be myself.

 

[AgentK]

It's actually a F1 LM in the picture and not a GTR.

...just saying.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

The MP4-12C should, in no way, be DLC. There's plenty of time to model it. I just hope that it was in the agreement along with the famous F1.

The more, the merrier.

 

[analog]

The MP4-12C should, in no way, be DLC. There's plenty of time to model it. I just hope that it was in the agreement along with the famous F1.

The more, the merrier.

As long as DLC is free, i wouldn't mind some models turning up slightly later.
We'll have plenty of other cars to keep us busy, would be nice actually to be offered new cars once in a while with all sorts of possible surprises like some old McLaren F1 cars, etc.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

As long as DLC is free, i wouldn't mind some models turning up slightly later.
We'll have plenty of other cars to keep us busy, would be nice actually to be offered new cars once in a while with all sorts of possible surprises like some old McLaren F1 cars, etc.

Yea, after at least 4 months. Kaz has said though the game will be full and complete when the game arrives. So I assume any car he CAN had now, will be added before it is released to us.

 

[analog]

Yea, after at least 4 months. Kaz has said though the game will be full and complete when the game arrives. So I assume any car he CAN had now, will be added before it is released to us.

I admire and respect Kaz for many reasons, always predicting exactly what will eventually happen or will be included in the final game unfortunately isn't one of them.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

I admire and respect Kaz for many reasons, always predicting exactly what will eventually happen or will be included in the final game unfortunately isn't one of them.

Believe.

 

[analog]

Believe.

I'm not a believer in general, just a slightly cynical realist , although i hope you're right and we will see the MP4-12C in GT5 from the start, can't wait to compare it with the 458 and Gallardo.