[The McLaren Thread]-Welcoming The Name And The F1 To Gran Turismo!

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You're all wrong. It's the Audi R8. Same view from Prologue and you can hear the engine at certain parts.
 
The nose sticks out further than the "fenders" as well as being higher than them. So no, from that angle, you would only see the tip of the nose.

Conquerer
You're all wrong. It's the Audi R8. Same view from Prologue and you can hear the engine at certain parts.
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why in the world is an R8 passing F1s?
 
Conquerer
If you noticed, that car he pictured doesn't have tobacco advertising on it. Not even the subliminal bar code. It would be fair game for GT5, but I wouldn't expect it.
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It still has the Marlboro colours and the unmistakable Marlboro 'arrow' though?
 
thesuperfunk
It still has the Marlboro colours and the unmistakable Marlboro 'arrow' though?
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So does the GT-One yet it's still in Gran Turismo. All they did was slightly alter the arrow, although it was unaltered in GT2. I also have a model of the MP4/5 and the makers of it have curved the arrow a bit too. It's a simple thing to get around.

Plus I'm not sure if Marlboro can even claim that "arrow" as its own since it's simply a paint job and Penske used the same livery even after dropping Marlboro as a sponsor. Also, if they did claim it as their own then I doubt it would be able to appear on the car in prohibited tobacco advertising areas (which it did for every single race).

dave_sz
why in the world is an R8 passing F1s?
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Look how calmly the F1 is driving, taking it very gingerly through the corners. It's obviously not a very difficult setting. You can always pass faster cars like that in Gran Turismo since the AI usually doesn't drive that aggressively.
 
It actually sounds pretty good too.
 
lilcat89
It actually sounds pretty good too.
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Shame it'll get the infamous vacuum cleaner/ weed whacker makeover if it comes to GT5. Really nice looking car in motion though..
 
J-PaP
Ferrari F1 car I'm guessing. The car is clearly a lot faster than the Mclaren F1 and I don't think there is much that would be able to out accelerate the F1 so easily.
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I can tell you with just looking (and not listening to the engine sound) at it that its definetly not a F1 car.

Its acceleration is very bad, the brake distance is to long, it understeers to much (for such a unexpierienced driver), the apex speed at the turns is to slow and the engine sounds to much like a european V8 (and not like the V8 of the F2007)...
I think conquerer is right, it could be the Audi R8.
 
I think it could be either the Enzo or the 458. The R8's nose is wider than the car in the video.
 
Considering how fast the car is accelerating, i'm thinking a Enzo or 458.....probably 458
 
There are these things on youtube videos called comments. Instead of argueing amongst yourselves which car it is, why didn't you just ask the guy who uploaded/recorded the video?

I did.
 
An MP4/4 with the whole barcode thing to hide the Marlboro logo would still be great. If there are ways they can get around it then it's always possible. But I won't keep my hopes up for them including the old F1 cars.
 
sems4arsenal
Hi guys there was some debate about the Mclaren F1'a air brake so this video should put that to rest .


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Good video the Mclaren F1 looks great. The only thing bad about that video was that Ferrari or whatever it is just hit the concrete barrier and came to halt abruptly.
 
Seriously? It's obviously an Enzo. You can hear that it's an Enzo, and the nose is poking out...
 
PJ-FFL
Seriously? It's obviously an Enzo. You can hear that it's an Enzo, and the nose is poking out...
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Are you going off the awful GT5 Enzo sound or do you think it sounds like a proper Enzo?
 
I'm surprised how slow the Mclaren F1 is around Tsukuba, and how much pitching and body roll it has!

I recall taking numerous cars around Tsukuba in a GT game much faster than that, and off course plenty of Tuner cars in real life get below 1 min. Including a few that Kaz owns :)

I have a feeling the F1 will not be as fast, and handle as well in GT5 as people expect, based on legend
 
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I think it'll be the best production car because KY adores it so much.

If not the best, in the top 3 for sure.

Would be nice to see the MP4-12C, though.
 
I think people have the wrong impression of the F1 if they're expecting the super-stiff, track-happy kind of modern supercar the likes of the Enzo have ushered in. It was always meant to be (comparatively) soft so it'd be comfortable on public roads. A lot has changed in 15+ years, especially in regards to tire development. Plus, the common view on the F1 is that it's aerodynamics aren't entirely sorted, meaning it's actually pretty vague and scary up at higher speeds.

If PD continues the trend in GT4 of giving newer cars an unnaturally higher level of grip (understandable on "stock" tires, shouldn't be present in upgraded stuff), I don't expect the F1 to be as fast as cars like the Enzo or even the Italia. Still doesn't make it any less lust-worthy for me, and I'd rather own it in game than the Bugatti hyper-TT.
 
Yes SlipZtrEm I agree that the F1 despite being designed to be the ultimate drivers car foremost, it was also designed so it could ( theoretically at least ) be used as an everyday car or travelling large distances in relative comfort.
Today's hypercars are mostly great on a track and focus less ( or at all ) on possible everyday tasks or providing much comfort.
The Veyron you mentioned being a possible exception as I see it more as a mid-engined GT with extraordinary performance figures but far less involving to drive apparantly ( not that I would ever be found at the wheel of any of these cars to make a proper judgement myself, mainly basing my theory on road tests by car magazines ).;)
 
I think the F1 is the best car ever made, it looks good, not too flashy but it looks like what it is, a fast car. And i love the fact that it doesn`t have a rear spoiler, it`s like it`s showing off to other supercars, "I can do this, and I can do that, don`t even need a spoiler". Awesome car, and 3 seats, ideal for a small family:)
 
I think the McLaren F1 is the best looking car of all time!! Most cars from that era IMO look dated. The F1's design is like THE perfect definition of timeless.
 
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SlipZtrEm
I think people have the wrong impression of the F1 if they're expecting the super-stiff, track-happy kind of modern supercar the likes of the Enzo have ushered in. It was always meant to be (comparatively) soft so it'd be comfortable on public roads. A lot has changed in 15+ years, especially in regards to tire development. Plus, the common view on the F1 is that it's aerodynamics aren't entirely sorted, meaning it's actually pretty vague and scary up at higher speeds.
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I'll second that, suspensions weren't so advanced in the nineties as they are today, these magnetic dampers make a lot of difference. The same goes for tire development during the years.

Even so, the F1 will be one of the most incredible cars to drive, unique cockpit viewpoint and brutal acceleration with lesser stopping power and handling ( due to poor aerodynamics ), it will be as cult as the F40 is in Prologue.
 
I don't think it will be that different to the Ferrari F40 to drive to be honest.

But it's a good base, light with good torque and a high top speed. If you can apply a wing to produce downforce this will easily be one of the better performance road cars in the game, even if difficult to drive.
 
Thomas1981
I think the F1 is the best car ever made, it looks good, not too flashy but it looks like what it is, a fast car. And i love the fact that it doesn`t have a rear spoiler, it`s like it`s showing off to other supercars, "I can do this, and I can do that, don`t even need a spoiler". Awesome car, and 3 seats, ideal for a small family:)
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That is the best sum-up of McLaren F1 ever. I love the timeless shape, the McLaren heritage, and the insane crazy speeds this car could do. It is a brilliant peice of machinery that still kicks ass in the morning, and heads to the grocery store in the evening :lol:. Compared to today, something with only 470-eh HP can't even come near 230+ M/H. But McLaren defied it. And that's why I love it. :cheers:
 
GT_Prologue5
Compared to today, something with only 470-eh HP can't even come near 230+ M/H. But McLaren defied it. And that's why I love it. :cheers:
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The F1 has at least 627bhp...

Dan_
lesser stopping power and handling ( due to poor aerodynamics )
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The F1's aerodynamics are actually very good, better than a Veyron's for example when comparing drag figures. The focus on having decent ride comfort for everyday use is the reason why the F1 exhibits a lot of pitch and roll during hard cornering.

That said, if they included an F1 LM, I'd expect it to be one of the fastest road cars in the game.
 
Dan_
Even so, the F1 will be one of the most incredible cars to drive, unique cockpit viewpoint and brutal acceleration with lesser stopping power and handling ( due to poor aerodynamics ), it will be as cult as the F40 is in Prologue.
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Exactely this. 👍
 
analog
Yes SlipZtrEm I agree that the F1 despite being designed to be the ultimate drivers car foremost, it was also designed so it could ( theoretically at least ) be used as an everyday car or travelling large distances in relative comfort.
Today's hypercars are mostly great on a track and focus less ( or at all ) on possible everyday tasks or providing much comfort.
The Veyron you mentioned being a possible exception as I see it more as a mid-engined GT with extraordinary performance figures but far less involving to drive apparantly ( not that I would ever be found at the wheel of any of these cars to make a proper judgement myself, mainly basing my theory on road tests by car magazines ).;)
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True, that's all I (and pretty much anybody here) have to go on, but it seems the general consensus after tons of magazine reviews and even some direct comparisons. I see the Veyron the same way as you; as a hyper-GT that happens to be mid-engine and capable of utterly insane performance stats. But it always felt like it was a case of "throw enough money at the problems and they will be solved", and doesn't feel as utterly single-minded as the McLaren's development. Obviously my own opinion and basing it off very little personally. They're both still impressive in their own ways though.

GT_Prologue5
That is the best sum-up of McLaren F1 ever. I love the timeless shape, the McLaren heritage, and the insane crazy speeds this car could do. It is a brilliant peice of machinery that still kicks ass in the morning, and heads to the grocery store in the evening :lol:. Compared to today, something with only 470-eh HP can't even come near 230+ M/H. But McLaren defied it. And that's why I love it. :cheers:
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What does 470HP have to do with it?

To keep this at least tangentially related to GT itself; I fully expect my F1 (and I will be hunting it down ASAP, not just the pre-order bonus, my own chosen colour model) to be one of my highest-mileage cars. Awwww yeah.
 
Dan_
I'll second that, suspensions weren't so advanced in the nineties as they are today, these magnetic dampers make a lot of difference. The same goes for tire development during the years.

Even so, the F1 will be one of the most incredible cars to drive, unique cockpit viewpoint and brutal acceleration with lesser stopping power and handling ( due to poor aerodynamics ), it will be as cult as the F40 is in Prologue.
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Plus, just look at it! It's probably the best looking car I've ever seen. I know I'll be driving it a lot. It will be exciting on fast circuits like Monza and hopefully Spa.
 
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