The Thread About Ponies, Logistics and General Weirdness (And Gilda)TV

[MercilessOne]

Okay wait. This one had me choking of laughter. I'm SO sorry everypony.

 

[Minty]

^
I needed that. I was starting to loose the good mood I had all day so far.


F:censored:. Yes.

 

[Snaeper]

F:censored:. Yes.
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Dat was hewawious!

Seriously though, I thought that was gonna be a Ghostbusters parody and then by the time I caught up I heard RD say "I'm a Pinata!" and lol'd.

 

[Minty]

^That is what 90% of the comments say.
I seriously feel like the only person in the entire world who thought about Mythbusters when I saw the title.
Of course, it helped that I had just read the Mythbusters pony comic recently posted in the funny pic thread.

 

[Terronium-12]

Make Pinkie bigger you say?

 

[Akira AC]

Maybe this is why the G1 fans hate us so much:

Two things:

First I thought I was the only one who thought that the songs are catchy.

Second,and no offence for the fellow bronies but who the hell liked the previous MLP,that's actually really weird.

 

[Jim Prower]

Well, G1 apparently wasn't so bad...after all, it launched a franchise that's been around for a good 20 some years.

 

[Wiegert]

Okay wait. This one had me choking of laughter. I'm SO sorry everypony.

*Equestria South Africa*

Looks like I wasn't the only one who found Equestria in SA

But if you look at that place on Street View, you'll find that it's actually some kind of private housing estate, not a gun-ridden part of the city completely void of love and tolerance. I still lol'd though.

Oh, I should have posted this yesterday, but here's that abridged parody portraying Applejack as an alcoholic. Strong language warning just to be on the safe side, and disregard the weird opening sequence:

 

[Tornado]

To be fair to G1, that poll isn't really what it appears. There aren't 15,000 votes with only 100 people saying they liked older iterations of the series. It was actually "only" 30:1, because that particular question was multiple choice and there were about 3000 Bronies who voted in it.



Still funny, though. I also like that 75% of the people who voted said they were male.

 

[Jim Prower]

IDEA BOUNCING TIME!!!

NOTE: What follows is intended as Fanfiction, NOT as theorizing canonical events as they really happened. I'm not saying that I think this is the way it happened in Canon, just an interesting way I thought the following might work in my mind.

I've been thinking on the sequence of events where Celestia must banish her sister, Luna, possessed by her anger as Nightmare Moon, and on the Elements of Harmony. Actually, daydreaming about it whilst bored at work. I've come up with an interesting possible plot...

What if the Elements...were Celestia's friends?

The idea is thus - Celestia, at the time, was in a Lower form, like Luna is now. Perhaps she was pink, we really don't know. Anyway, Luna, possessed by her anger, and perhaps aided by magic, is now in her heightened, "Full-potential" form, though corrupted. Thus, by the Law of Power Levels (Highest Power Level wins,) Celestia would have been in SERIOUS trouble. In my imagination, Nightmare Moon would have had murderous intent. She needed help...Thus her six friends, each with qualities matching Honesty, Laughter, Kindness, Loyalty, Generosity, and Magic, came to help and lend their power to Celestia...unfortunately, the only way to do this was to use a spell (provided by the Mage,) that would remove the six ponies from their Earthly (Equestrianly?) Forms. After using their power to reach her own "Full Potential" form, and seal/send Nightmare Moon to the Moon, Celestia placed some of their power into stones, which would become the Elements of Harmony.

The Issue is Thus: I have the idea, but no characters to put to it. simply harping the Mane Six wouldn't work, though they'd be similar to some extent, they'd have far different jobs, as they'd be members of Celestia and Luna's court. Here's what I have so far.

Honesty – Accountant? Reporter?

Kindness – Gardener? Quartermaster? Stable Keep? Medic/White Mage?

Laughter – Court Jester (obv.)

Generosity – NO CLUE.

Loyalty – Capt. Of Royal Guard

Magic – Head Mage

Magic, obviously, would have to be a Unicorn, otherwise, the other ponies could be any race. I think once I have who's who/what down, I can start forming characters around these Elements.

So...what y'all think?

 

[Minty]

^That actually sounds like a fantastic idea for a story.
It would be a massive undertaking to come up with 5 new personalities, and flesh them out enough for the reader to recognize those differences.
Actually, just setting up the 6 new characters alone would take at least 2 chapters, but probably more if the writer doesn't want to risk confusing anyone. And then finding a way to get all of them together in a way that is believable would take some work too.

That's a really great concept. It could be done, and if done well enough could be something truly great. But developing your own 6 characters without messing with the current timeline could be very difficult.


Although, there is one thing I think that I would do differently if I were going to try that. I would have used Celestia as the element of magic. Maybe there are only 5 other ponies that all channel their individual element into her.


Just my 2 cents bits.

 

[Jim Prower]

Well, lemme put it this way...I sign up for a new RP at least once a month with a new situation and new character. I can figure out a few personalities. I just need suggestions for what they do in this case, and what race/gender they are.

To some extent, the personalities are defined by the element, so that helps.

 

[Minty]

^Can't help there.
When it comes to stuff like that I'm as creative as a sack of rocks. Anything I suggest as far as race/gender would be based entirely on random chance.
Maybe get the personalities out of the way, and then try to decide what personalities would work best with the different abilities of each race.




But we have another super Brony on our hooves.

 

[Wiegert]

^Ha, I just saw it a few minutes ago. He's got some guts to do that (yes, I did read the YouTube comments).

Although, there is one thing I think that I would do differently if I were going to try that. I would have used Celestia as the element of magic. Maybe there are only 5 other ponies that all channel their individual element into her.

This could be considered, plus the fact that you won't need to create a sixth pony which would free up some more time for you to possibly develop the other five characters. Anyway, I really like the idea, although it does seem like quite a grand undertaking. I can't shake the fact that the idea of the Pony 'Mage' (or possibly Celestia) using a spell to remove the Ponies from their Earthly forms would make for quite a sad moment in my opinion. If done properly though, this would make for a great story.

I would make some suggestions for what each character does and what race/gender they are, but it appears that my internet connection is on the blink this weekend, so I might not be able to give any suggestions sadly.

 

[Minty]

^I was going to say almost the same thing in a big edit. But my internet disconected right before I saved it, and it was all lost forever. So I just didn't feel like retyping it at the moment and went on ED for a few minutes.

 

[Jim Prower]

That's fine, you can PM me or something later. This is all in the idea phase for a longer-winded project.

And, yeah, Sad moment is kind of what I'm going for, as mean as that sounds, even as stressful as trying to figure out how to keep your vengeful sister from doing something bad to you, without ending her life, would be. It's going to be a tough point in Celestia's life.

The main reason I wanted to keep Celestia separate from Magic would be that element a) represents another sacrifice, but b) I've had a character in mind for that one from the start. However, the more I think about it, It could make sense to have Celestia represent it, (and then create it,) as the sixth element only appears after the other five make a connection of friendship with someone gifted in Magic...and that element alone could embody the bond all shared on that day.

It makes sense now that I type it. XD

 

[Tornado]

I can already see how that plot outline would become incredibly depressing. I'm talking "The Last Sonic Rainboom" or "Chapter 3 of Sunset (a.k.a. the story with Twilight fighting Celestia pictured in the Picasa gallery)" depressing. Which, don't get me wrong, is fine if that was part of the point (because it sorta sounds like an epic Memories of Days Long Past-style million chapter tragic story based on what you've given); but if its not it would be extremely hard to write it without it turning into one anyways.

I'm conflicted by this. That's the kind of stuff that I encouraged people getting beat up for doing in High School. And on the other hand, Friendship is Magic.


I curse this show, because it seems to be making me a lot less mean-spirited then I was just a year ago. And as a 20-something male with a broadband internet connection, that's a liability.

 

[Jim Prower]

I'd definitely have to end it on a positive note, Toronado. If it were a standalone story, it'd probably end with the "new hope," Twilight Sparkle, being discovered 990 years later in an epilogue. If it were part of a larger story, as in, a flashback sequence...well, not as much time for chara development. So it's a tossup.

 

[Tornado]

I actually meant a million chapter story entirely about the plot outlined above. If that wasn't the intention I was supposed to get from it, my apologies.


But the problem (I really don't like using this word to describe it, because it isn't really a problem) with a story like that is that it really can't (at least not in any way I can think of) end on anything more than a bittersweet note unless you pull a massive cop out. You can end it on a "new hope" situation, but the problem with that is the better it is written, the harder it would be to accept an ending like that based on the plot ideas you've given out.


Which, fair enough, you seem to understand that already. But I'm simply throwing out the warning that the better such a story is written, the more... hm, how do I phrase this. The more... futile the entire situation would be. Because at least the way I'm reading the above, Celestia would ascend to a higher plane of existence (becoming the Celestia we know now) at the help of her friends; and her friends would then cease to exist, at least in terms that she recognizes them. And that's heavy stuff, even ignoring that the entire reason that she needs them to do so is so she can banish her sister to the moon for 1000 years.






Edit: In other news, while Progress was updated today (Yay!), I was not ready for a new chapter of The Sun is Tired after all of the stuff that happened in the last one, nor am I prepared mentally for two new chapters of A World Without Rainbooms. And since I have to read both now that they are up... poop.

Two GrimDarks in a row? What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Jim Prower]

Indeed. and that's kind of the intention.

At the moment, though, It's really more writing these ideas down before I forget them. I'm a bit busy at the moment to get this out any time soon.

 

[Tornado]

I don't pretend to know enough about biology to complain about the realism of the Xenomorphs from the Alien movies, so why do people who don't know anything about Fascism load up the comment box for a story largely about the Equestrian government complaining about how brutal the story is?

You wanna know how you teach people just how powerful mob mentality and Fascism are when they are complaining about how unrealistic you are portraying the concepts in your story? Make the reader think like a mob and then throw the fact that they were acting just as bad as the mob in the story back at them to prove just how wrong they were.

I suspected the author was going to do something that clever, but to see it actually done as perfectly as it was is fantastic.



This story is well on its way towards matching TNTNE in terms of "I absolutely cannot believe this is written this well."

 

[Minty]

The Great and Powerful Trixie trotted to Applejack's side. “Come, let's put her in Trixie's bed.”

Rainbow Dash cheered. “Yeah baby!”

“Ooh! Ooh!” Pinkie Pie quickly undid the bow tie from her bartender outfit, “Remember to hang this around the doorknob!” she exclaimed, galloping towards Trixie and tying it around her horn.

Fluttershy softly padded to Trixie's side. “Please be gentle, Twilight is such a tender soul.”

The room was silent for a full minute as Trixie, enveloped in a full-body blush, tried in vain to pick her jaw up from the floor. “Wh-... whuh.. THAT IS NOT WHAT TRIXIE MEANT.” her voice squeaked nervously. Her head flicked anxiously from side to side as she looked at each of the ponies gathered.


Fluttershy was the first to break. “Pfft...”

Trixie twitched.

Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy all started rolling on the floor, laughing themselves to tears. Trixie blushed further, trying to find somewhere to hide her embarrassment. Applejack just looked on, mightily confused.

.....that made my entire week.
Holy 🤬 that was just fantastic.

 

[Wiegert]

^Thanks, now I'm laughing again That was definitely the best (funniest) bit so far in TBoTS.

This story is well on its way towards matching TNTNE in terms of "I absolutely cannot believe this is written this well."

Right, I just read the first part of The Sun is Tired simply because you said that.

First off, the chapters don't appear to be anywhere near as long as they are in TNTNE, so I can easily fit it in between reading other fan-fics which is good. Secondly, I should say that I like the story so far, especially the fact that Celestia is feared by virtually everpony, but she tries to change the way that they portray her by altering her actions (tries to be "more playful, more mischievous"), plus it seems to tie in well with the events shown in the actual program.

It looks like I'll be reading the next 4 parts whenever I have the time I guess, but not now though (4:21am).

 

[Tornado]

.....that made my entire week.
Holy 🤬 that was just fantastic.

What happens when Twilight wakes up?

Well, that is (the second half of) Chapter 10, and it is amazing.

First off, the chapters don't appear to be anywhere near as long as they are in TNTNE, so I can easily fit it in between reading other fan-fics which is good.

He puts up chapters every 3 days (ish). The GrimDark tag went up alongside Chapter 4, just as an FYI, but its not (at least, not yet) GrimDark to the extent that TNTNE is (Sorta. Chapter 5 is very ambiguous about some things of consequence).

And try to avoid the comments, because my (in particular) over-the-top gushing/discussion about this story has been rather... spoileriffic.

 

[MercilessOne]

*gets shot for terrible joke*

 

[Racedude]

^*Applies magical healing because of lol.*
There. Feel better?

Also:

 

[Akira AC]

Actually,pretty good concept

Yes it is a good concept,and I see that the problem is a potential sad ending and a complex development for at least 5 characters,setting the story 1000 years before MLP:FiM is actually pretty clever and might catch on.

A solution for both the sad ending,and the development for the characters could probably be "Rebirth",allow me to elaborate:

If we consider the 5 elements and their respective characters,you can make them previous beings that posses similar personalities to the current characters,if this is done,then you can use their personalities portraying different roles(i.e. Fluttershy as a medic taking care of patients,Rarity as artist,and so on)while Celestia doesn't go through this change.

Then you can make twilight a future version of the magic character that you are building,in that case it will explain Celestia's appreciation towards Twilight,and gives you space to create that specific character that you were talking about.

I think that the "rebirth" concept will not make the story go into a sad ending,it keeps the characteristics of the elements of harmony without going into a complex character creation stage and leaves room for your character that will be replaced in the future.

This is just an idea,and it has many flaws like for example the lack of originality that might produce the replication of the characters,and other aspects that might get open to reader's interpretation,so that's it a pretty basic idea that might work and is worth a mention.

@MercilessOne

Perfect timing

 

[MercilessOne]

Poor Steven Magnet!



Same time post yo.

 

[Minty]

Crap, I meant to be sleeping by at most 11pm, it's now 12:57, but my sister started watching some more episodes in our living room and I got sucked in while passing by. I have to wake up in about 6 hours, so I'm off to bed.
I'll just leave this here;

So cool and adorable all at once. It's D'aaaaawwwwwwesome.



Anyway, g'night everypony.

 

[Racedude]

Yet another Hasbro fail.

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I really don't have anything against Hasbro, but MLP seems to be the only toy line they screw up.

If I ever meet whoever labeled that "Applebloom & Sweetiebelle" toy-set...