Top Gear Test Track Lotus Challenge

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Can't believe people have so much issues with this.
I use a controller and didn't change the settings.
Just get passed the last car after first corner, then at chicago go straight through between the car in front of you and the one before that. You can outbrake 1 more car and get him on the inside on the next sharp turn to the right. At hammerhead go on the far right, and outbrake 2 more I think, then get the inside line at the second part of hammerhead to pass another car.
Then you should get another one at the follow through with the tires, and try to get one more at gambon. You're #3 already after 1 lap.
 
nasanu
Should I be along side the board or already turning? Stupid track is too wide, it confuses my small racer brain!
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I started to turn and brake at the board, keep a bit of throttle on whilst braking to stabilise the rear of the car.
 
Only after playing with the active steering and adjusting the ABS setting was I finally able to get gold on the very last corner....after about 15-18 attempts.

But man did it feel good to finally beat this challenge :dopey:
 
My biggest problem is getting DQd becasue either the AI jams on their brakes in front of me, runs into me while Im passing them ??, stil lhavent figured out how that works, or pushes me off the track.
 
I had it on default settings, not too many problems. The issue was being very very aggressive, which meant i won in my first 3 tries which wasn't DQ'd. Easier than samba imo. Just really be aggressive, overtaking is possible at most corners especially 2nd to last. Think i lead after that. You can also go over the inside a bit on hammerhead (not a fraction round the outside on the first part though) which is useful for avoiding the cars.
 
I just did this on gold with the dualshock with standard settings, the only thing i've turned off ingame is the raceing line.

Start by trying to catch up with 11th place and overtake him going wide the cutting into the apex of the first corner where you can take 10th place as well.Put the foot down on the straight where i overtook two on the inside as the broke then cut across to the opposite side oof the track and hug the inside line where i overtook 3-4 cars. Heading into the hamerhead stay on the right hand side you can overtake cars as they start braking at 100m sign you can brake at 50m sign. By this point i was 3rd. Overtook second on the second to last corner of the first lap, and then overtook 1st place on the hammerhead on second lap.

It probably wasn't pretty to watch but i don't think i was too agressive on the other cars - well you can't be otherwise you're DQ'd, although by the end of it i don't think there was too many cones left standing.
 
What come after this challenge. I have to admit I turned my aids on but after I did so I found this challenge to be pretty easy. I will agree at first i did this without aids and it was impossible but with them on I golded after about 7 tries.
 
Some things make this challenge alot easier - firstly, the fact that the AI always does exactly the same thing every time... secondly, the non-red cones can be knocked over safely, so if you are too late on the brakes at Hammerhead, you can get away with it if you need to. As has already been mentioned, once you get the hang of the braking, this mission is not very hard, so long as you can avoid collisions.
 
After 15 min i finally beaten the challenge. The trick is not the driving, it is where your position is after some corners. i can say this, you really need to be 3rd before you are crossing the starting line after 1 lap. or else you can go try again.
And also try to spot the gap between the cars and try to sneak by there as fast as possible.

pretty easy challenge if you also use your head and not only driving :)

i had all assist off except 1 lv ABS.
 
How are you able to catch up to the AI drivers at the follow through section? During that part it almost seems as if they're pulling away from me even if I'm sort of close to one to be able to draft it!
 
I think that I'm just getting too frustrated after a dozen tries or so. I really can't stand the way the Elise handles, it wants to turn sideways when ever you hit the brakes. I definitely have noticed that the AI follow the exact same line every time and I have been using that to my advantage. I've had some really good runs passing the AI cars and gaining good ground just to get DQ'd for a very minor mistake by either bumping the car in front of me or clipping the inside cone.

I know that I will get it eventually because I just won't give up but I really wish that we could be able to adjust the brake bias settings before entering the race. I have set up the six-axis to be able to adjust brake bias but it is a pain to do quickly without loosing ground to the AI.
 
Thanks for the brake bias tips. I must have taken about 60-80 stabs at this challenge over the last 4 days. I've watched lots of videos of people doing it on youtube and my big problem was not keeping up at follow through and turn 1.

It is ridiculous that this challenge is this hard and I got gold on the Kublewagon challenge on my 3rd go.
 
Well, I pulled off a 3rd place last night with no adjustments. I think getting used to how the Lotus handles after so many attempts at this challenge. The biggest challenge other that being DQ'd is know where to pass. I was able to move into 6th through Hammerhead. If I could manage being in 5th by that point I should be able to run down the leader.
 
starkrush
I had it on default settings, not too many problems. The issue was being very very aggressive, which meant i won in my first 3 tries which wasn't DQ'd. Easier than samba imo. Just really be aggressive, overtaking is possible at most corners especially 2nd to last. Think i lead after that. You can also go over the inside a bit on hammerhead (not a fraction round the outside on the first part though) which is useful for avoiding the cars.
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Are you people driving the same car I'm driving? :grumpy:

I'm an autocrosser and I've driven an Elise in real life. I can't even get the damn car through the first gentle sweeper, let alone the first sharp turn. No matter how gently I steer (using a DFP wheel) the rear slides out, and once it does, there is no possible way to catch it. Adding a touch of throttle in an upper gear should transfer weight to the back and give you traction, but it doesn't; you just keep sliding. Countersteering doesn't do anything. And of course, braking or lifting is even worse (as it should be).

I had no trouble with the buses, but this Elise on these tires is undrivable. Midengine cars don't seem well modeled - I suffered the same issue with the Europa. I've driven a variety of real midships small cars in anger (MR2, MR-S, Elise) and they just plain don't behave like this.
 
Mr Turismo
Well... wonder if u guys heard about a rFactor mod called Historic GT . Its a blast. So far i´ve saw the comments about the handlind of the elise ( didnt drove it yet ) and it reminds me driving ANY of the cars present in the rFactor mod. No Traction Control, no ABS, just loads o fun , with jaguars and ferraris ...lots of power, no assists.

I think i will love elise... :)
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I'm sorry, but I think you'll find that the Elise in this particular challenge with thiose particular tyres is far harder than anything in rFactor.
 
For sure, once I got used to the car's oversteer I used that as part of the strategy. Tried driving it as cleanly as possible but the car gets pretty loose in all the corners so I just skated around, maybe love-tapping a few cars through the process. You don't have to drive this test neat at all and just brake deeper than the AI and eventually you'll get gold.

I think all the Elises (heck, especially the Europa) have driven really loose in all the GT games.
 
Areas where the AI brake too much are, for the follow through and the two corners after. With practice I was able to take the corner after the follow through very aggressively.

Also when the back of my car drifted into the middle of another I found I didnt get DSQ this may help those who are driving a little aggressive.
 
Just tried this one out for the first time today. Best I could do is 5th. I'll try the brake bias change as people said.
 
I got 1st place with stock settings, TC off, ASM off. It took me many tries, but when I did finally win, I ended up passing the leader in the hammerhead on lap 2. The key is to simply brake late and get on the gas as early as possible, while keeping the car straight.
 
I would not mind these challenges if the cars were not lemmings that went around oblivious to everything but seem intent of driving into you while passing them on straights.

Or if they did not have gt5ps awful penalty system that sometimes you can tap a car and nothing other times you glance a car and get DQd or the ai just drives into you and you get DQd or the ai runs you off the road and you get DQd.

To pack you into equal cars that have no clear advantage, and stick you at the back of the field and say go at it, the penalty system kills and sense of fun about these events period. And i thought PD learned from gt5p that their penalty system was utter garbage and did not work right half the time anyway.

And the vans are equally worse if not as sheer maddening since they big as houses and slow as turtles to get any kind of speed. So passing any van on a straight takes forever all the while you are wide open to get plowed into form the guy beside you.
 
Duke
Are you people driving the same car I'm driving? :grumpy:

I'm an autocrosser and I've driven an Elise in real life. I can't even get the damn car through the first gentle sweeper, let alone the first sharp turn. No matter how gently I steer (using a DFP wheel) the rear slides out, and once it does, there is no possible way to catch it. Adding a touch of throttle in an upper gear should transfer weight to the back and give you traction, but it doesn't; you just keep sliding. Countersteering doesn't do anything. And of course, braking or lifting is even worse (as it should be).

I had no trouble with the buses, but this Elise on these tires is undrivable. Midengine cars don't seem well modeled - I suffered the same issue with the Europa. I've driven a variety of real midships small cars in anger (MR2, MR-S, Elise) and they just plain don't behave like this.
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Do not release the pedals just like that, the tyres are way too bad for that. Release throttle gentle when you brake. But don't just mash the brake pedal, never go fully in with that paddle, just gently brake and come off it again, while doing that go back on the throttle to keep the rear in line while yr braking... And continue. Every corner takes almost three seconds inbetween pressing the throttle and pressing it totally in, when exiting the corner, or it's gonna want to spin again..

And keep doing that. :)

BTW a friend of me died in an MR2 by just thinking like you, until he spun his car on place where there was almost no turn, wrapped the car around a three and him in it.... Corner was maybe a hint to the left...
 
cwm33
How are you able to catch up to the AI drivers at the follow through section? During that part it almost seems as if they're pulling away from me even if I'm sort of close to one to be able to draft it!
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countersteer in end of third gear, keep a good 3/4 off throttle and wait till it is straight again. 👍
 
iliveonthemoon
I enjoy a challenge but this is ridiculous. I've driven an elise at speed and it doesn't handle anything like it does in GT5.
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Well, not with these no, but these aren't the ones put on in real life so i don't even see yr point in comparing...
 
Willbo87
I found it a lot easier by changing the settings on the DFGT from Amateur to Sim. You can be more aggressive with the car.
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Setting for realistic wheel behaviour: Simulation, powersteering off, ffb 4 (g25)

and all of from assists, ALL!👍
 

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