Update 1.02 ruined cockpit view

[Zevious Z]

Adjusting the exposure enough to remedy the situation in the cockpit would make things look crummy in every other area of the game.

 

[smskeeter23]

And the goverment is run by alien lizards who want to eliminate the human race.

That wouldn't actually surprise me with the majority of bast.....politicians.

You guys want to discuss a trade for what we have here? I'm open to all offers up to and including paying you for the trade



But back to the topic at hand...

 

[Zevious Z]

Then why are some (like me) not experiencing any problems?
This could be similar to the Toscana time change glitch in GT5 where decreasing exposure (in-game adjustment) would give counter intuitive results.

Give it a try before you so loudly condemn it.
Set quality to normal and exposure to 0 and make adjustments both ways.
I'm trying to help you here...

Those are the settings I use all the time - and I'd bet that's true for most of us "whiners."

I have no idea why you aren't experiencing the problem. How many different cars have you driven. Do you use cockpit cam only? Under what time of day settings? I don't know. All I know is I've noticed the issue as have quite a few others.

 

[Shirrako]

Since the 1.02 update my cockpit view is terrible its so dark I can't even see the clocks , everything just looks black , anyone else getting this ?

Have you posted anything positive about GT6 since launch? every single post i see from you is basically hating on GT6, maybe the game is not for you if you hate it so much?
"The cockpit is slightly darker on some cars, That's terrible! PD is ruining GT6!"
That's what i understand from the point of this thread and your posts.

 

[Zevious Z]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/pd-fix-onboard-shadows-its-too-dark.293489/

previous to the 1.02 update.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

You guys want to discuss a trade for what we have here? I'm open to all offers up to and including paying you for the trade



But back to the topic at hand...

Obama would probably do a better job than Cameron.

 

[MasterFocus]

Not everyone seems to know that you can adjust the exposure in the quick menu when you pause, under the EV section, brightness can be adjusted!! 💡

I'm already at +5 since day one, I drive only on cockpit view and it was too dark at 0

 

[mister dog]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/pd-fix-onboard-shadows-its-too-dark.293489/

previous to the 1.02 update.

People complain the cockpits are too dark, PD makes them darker.

 

[Vegard]

Those are the settings I use all the time - and I'd bet that's true for most of us "whiners."

I have no idea why you aren't experiencing the problem. How many different cars have you driven. Do you use cockpit cam only? Under what time of day settings? I don't know. All I know is I've noticed the issue as have quite a few others.

I use cockpit view only.

There is quite a big difference from track to track but nothing problematic.

I also think "smart" enhancement technology such as black corrector, contrast enhancer, auto light limiter etc etc are "fighting" the signals, so I turn them off and adjust the base settings accordingly.

PS: gamma +1 or +2 is your friend

 

[mu22stang]

Adjusting the exposure enough to remedy the situation in the cockpit would make things look crummy in every other area of the game.

Any proof of this? There is a separate setting in the main menu options for exposure (brightness?). I assume that's what you mean by "other areas of the game."

 

[Zevious Z]

Not everyone seems to know that you can adjust the exposure in the quick menu when you pause, under the EV section, brightness can be adjusted!! 💡

I'm already at +5 since day one, I drive only on cockpit view and it was too dark at 0

OMG. I like the way everything in GT6 looks with the EV at 0 EXCEPT the cockpit under certain lighting condtions. I don't want to crank the EV up to resolve this.

 

[Zevious Z]

Any proof of this? There is a separate setting in the main menu options for exposure (brightness?). I assume that's what you mean by "other areas of the game."

Yeah theres proof - my eyes. By other areas of the game I mean replays, photo mode, you know - parts of the game that DON'T suffer from this lighting issue.

 

[YZF]

Ok, i just did an update and tried the same car on the same track (Free Run -> Honda Fit at Motegi) and as far as I can tell, there are no differences between 1.01 and 1.02. In other words, latest 1.02 patch did not fix the onboard shadow problem.

Please note that this problem is only with select cars and on certain tracks. It's not always and everywhere.

 

[Zevious Z]

I use cockpit view only.

There is quite a big difference from track to track but nothing problematic.

I also think "smart" enhancement technology such as black corrector, contrast enhancer, auto light limiter etc etc are "fighting" the signals, so I turn them off and adjust the base settings accordingly.

PS: gamma +1 or +2 is your friend

gamma +2 doesn't fix the issue. Still too dark under some circumstances in some cars.

Ok, i just did an update and tried the same car on the same track (Free Run -> Honda Fit at Motegi) and as far as I can tell, there are no differences between 1.01 and 1.02. In other words, latest 1.02 patch did not fix the onboard shadow problem.

Please note that this problem is only with select cars and on certain tracks. It's not always and everywhere.

Exactly.

 

[mu22stang]

http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt6/manual/#!/option/display

Which is separate from in-race options.

 

[GTsimms]

Set exposure to from 0 to +7

 

[Zevious Z]

http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt6/manual/#!/option/display

Which is separate from in-race options.

Geez. I'm aware of all the different options.

 

[Zevious Z]

Set exposure to from 0 to +7

please stop. :facepalm:

 

[Vegard]

gamma +2 doesn't fix the issue. Still too dark under some circumstances in some cars.

There was quite a big difference in GT5 as well. Some tracks were overexposed, some very dim.
Maybe i've just gotten used to it through the years...

http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt6/manual/#!/option/display

Which is separate from in-race options.

That's just two different ways of adjusting the same setting.

 

[mu22stang]

That's just two different ways of adjusting the same setting.

No it isn't. The values are different.

 

[Zevious Z]

I have GT5 and put in hundreds of hours, most of it in cockpit. Never had a problem.

Is it so hard to believe there might actually be an issue with the cockpit lighting???

 

[Vegard]

No it isn't. The values are different.

And the effects are the same.

 

[mu22stang]

And the effects are the same.

Incorrect.

The main menu options affect the entire game, including in-race. The in-race menu only affects in-race brightness.

 

[Vegard]

I have GT5 and put in hundreds of hours, most of it in cockpit. Never had a problem.

Is it so hard to believe there might actually be an issue with the cockpit lighting???

OH I just though of something that may be causing your problem 💡

In the PS3 XMB menu - settings - display settings, there are two settings that may be causing problems;

- RGB full range (HDMI)
- Deep colour output (HDMI)

Try changing them, one at a time, and see if that has any effect.

 

[Vegard]

Incorrect.

The main menu options affect the entire game, including in-race. The in-race menu only affects in-race brightness.

The effect, concerning the topic at hand, are the same.

 

[Zevious Z]

OH I just though of something that may be causing your problem 💡

In the PS3 XMB menu - settings - display settings, there are two settings that may be causing problems;

- RGB full range (HDMI)
- Deep colour output (HDMI)

Try changing them, one at a time, and see if that has any effect.

These are not suitable solutions for a problem with ONE game. I don't want to change universal settings on myPS3 that work well for EVERYTHING ELSE and which are set to the best recommended options already in order to resolve an intermittent issue with ONE GAME.

 

[Vegard]

These are not suitable solutions for a problem with ONE game. I don't want to change universal settings on myPS3 that work well for EVERYTHING ELSE and which are set to the best recommended options already in order to resolve an intermittent issue with ONE GAME.

No problem, glad to h... Oh wait.

 

[mu22stang]

The effect, concerning the topic at hand, are the same.

Perhaps. But, being different would allow users to work around this darkness issue without affecting the rest of the game's brightness, despite Zevious Z's eye's opinion stating otherwise.

 

[YZF]

Then why are some (like me) not experiencing any problems?
This could be similar to the Toscana time change glitch in GT5 where decreasing exposure (in-game adjustment) would give counter intuitive results.

Give it a try before you so loudly condemn it.
Set quality to normal and exposure to 0 and make adjustments both ways.
I'm trying to help you here...

Vegard, I'll help you to understand the problem with real testing enviroment:

Choose Honda Fit RS and go to Free Run -> twin Ring Motegi East. Drive full lap and after second bridge (not first one), you'll see almost nothing on the dash.

You'll understand what we are talking about.

 

[Harry1987]

with the further increased hdr many lcd tvs with dynamic contrast struggle as the in game contrast is "too much" vor them to calculate correctly:

in gt5 the "black" of many car dashboards was more a dark grey or even light grey, so the tv stays quite bright.

in gt6 many black dashboards are really black now causing the dynamic contrast algorithm to turn down brightness.

try for your self if you can and turn dynamic contrast off.

normal lcd has around 1:800-1:1100 real contrast(tv even lower) so all above are mostly dynamic contrast values.

edit: i can read the dash clearly on twin ring under the bridge in my fit/jazz. on pc lcd or tv no difference.