Vote: GT5 a disappointment or a great game

[Seismica]

Both, simply because my expectations were naturally quite high after such a long development period.

Stuck without online (Managed to connect to my uni internet despite the block - but constantly times out/resets the connection), I've found i'm completely bored of it because the single player is atrocious. When you get to a certain point your only choice in A-spec is to grind endurance races or extreme events, which means around 90% of the games cars are useless because most of the extreme events are restricted. Other events have pathetically small rewards (Money and XP wise) and the AI is so drastically different in the event stages that the earlier events aren't worth running because you always win without any effort. Some events which are fun to run (Supercar challenge at Nurburgring GP for example) give so little in terms of reward compared to the later events, that it's just a waste of time.

Not only this, but the races are shorter than they were in GT4 towards the end of the game, and each tournament/event has fewer venues to race at than in GT4. Fuel and tyre management is not necessary either. I want B-spec length races in A-spec, and I want the AI set to maximum difficulty in every event (With monetary and experience rewards to match). I also want some events to run 5-10 venues rather than only having 1-3. This is where the mod community in PC games would step in and fix all the problems, but with this being on PS3, and PD having such a small development team (For the size/scale of the game), nothing is going to be done about it.

Like I said, I'm stuck without online, so the seasonal events aren't an option I'm sure they fix this problem to an extent. And not to forget online pvp races too.

 

[deftonesmx17]

Honestly, how much of the code was "rewritten" versus recycled? I can see all code related to PS3 resources (e.g., audio, video, controller input/output) having to be rewritten, but AI, physics, collision mechanics and such? Seems pretty recycled to me. Lots of heritage to previous poor implementations in the GT series. I expect the core gameplay was not coded from scratch, and perhaps that's one of the issues - recycling the same old stuff.

I'd agree that they recycled certain things, just by using sound logic. Nailing proper physics per car takes a heck of a lot more time than nailing the modeling of a car. That said, with around 800 of the cars being pulled from the PS2 and PSP; do you really think they redid the physics for every single one of those? I mean really, come on now.

For those of you who still own GT4; test it. I've done this and more often than not, it handles identical to how it did in GT4 or the PSP version. And before the GT Defense Force comes saying how GT4 was realistic; get off it, neither the PSP or the PS2 have the power to do anything like the physics going on with the Premiums in GT5.

 

[shirakawaa]

[...]neither the PSP or the PS2 have the power to do anything like the physics going on with the Premiums in GT5.

Enthusia Professional Racing. Never heard of it?

 

[Devedander]

Enthusia Professional Racing. Never heard of it?

Richard Burns Rally.... mmmmmmm.... goood....

 

[deftonesmx17]

Enthusia Professional Racing. Never heard of it?

Played it and what exactly about that game aside from their transmission engine was top notch physics that you see in modern racers?

Richard Burns Rally.... mmmmmmm.... goood....

Maybe the PC version. My experience was the PC version being far superior and I'm not talking about the graphics.

 

[shirakawaa]

Played it and what exactly about that game aside from their transmission engine was top notch physics that you see in modern racers?

Especially weight transfer and tire load (and transmission/differential simulation as you mention) were at least at GT5P level, at most importantly, way better than GT4 which was released a few months earlier. This with graphics only slightly inferior than GT4. The point is that processing power is of course important but not the primary factor in physics/driving engine realism.

Not to mention at as a game, Enthusia kept me entertained for longer than GT5, and I played it in 2010, no more than 6 months before GT5.

 

[UkHardcore23]

Poor game that has amazing driving in it, if only it had racing and good game parts

 

[deftonesmx17]

The point is that processing power is of course important but not the primary factor in physics/driving engine realism.

I agree, but processing power will indeed dictate how often the the engine is refreshing per second, which is highly important.

 

[Destinkeys]

Curious as to why this thread is still open. With such limited answers, it is devolving into the 'Are you disappointed with GT5?' thread.

 

[Tornado]

But I think that might be because Kaz didn't directly lie about what they were doing with the game.

Do you really want to play that card? Because I can dig through the GTP news section and dig up stuff that PD said was definitely going to be in the final game within months of when GT5 ultimately came out that was removed from the final game anyways. Not to mention just how far the truth was stretched in some of the advertising of the game after it came out.

I agree, but processing power will indeed dictate how often the the engine is refreshing per second, which is highly important.

Physics engine refresh rate is only part of the process, and one that is ultimately negated if the underlying engine isn't as good.
To make a direct comparison, you can have a game whose visuals run at 60 FPS, but a game that runs at 30 FPS could still look better.

 

[Limelight788]

I absolutely love playing the game and can't get enough of it. While I do have a few gripes about it, it keeps me coming for it again and again. It won't be a game I will forget playing anytime soon.

 

[kazuyam]

Wow, 350+ votes and 100 posts in a thread being intentionally radical and polarizing

 

[speedy_2]

Great game. Just has things that should be fixed by now. I just hate how time has been wasted on other things and hardly anything has been done with the issues that the game shipped with.

 

[maxpontiac]

Easy question. Did it disappoint you or is it a great deal: yes or no

The search engine is your friend.

Anyways, back on topic it's nearly 2.5-1 in favor a GT5 being a great game.💡

 

[JJ72]

The search engine is your friend.

Anyways, back on topic it's nearly 2.5-1 in favor a GT5 being a great game.💡

which is really low considering this is the premium fan site.

 

[CaliDriver1]

I think it's a great game. I have and liked them all. I am happy to see the addition of Nascar to the mix. B spec has it's place in the game. If they build from this I can see GT 6 being very good.

 

[stpatty]

It's not a great game, nor is is a complete disappointment. Skewed poll!

 

[ZSPaulus]

I lol when reading all comments about it being a bad poll. Its the exact opposite. Having only two options makes you choose a side; and leaves a very clean result.

I too play GT5 every day and love the time i spend on track; but the rest of the application is a complete and utter waste of 6 years of developement time; Bad GUI, dissapointing content (Cars and tracks), bad netcode, bad tuning functionalities; slow performance; prone to cheating (aspec-autogrind, duping)..

So i chose the option of complete dissapointment.

Choosing that option sends out a signal; PD schould get fired, and for the following reasons.

-As stated in previous post; this is the premium fansite of GT5; and even we think its not that great.
-They spent 6 years on making a product that doesnt meet the PS3 system requirements.
-They promised gold and delivered some bronze.

The one thing PD has(d) going is the enormous fanbase and the hype that fanbase created; GT5 was bound to sell millions of copy's even if it had one track and one car on release..

But they have lost a large part of that fanbase. I dont think they can afford to build GT6 from scratch again (which they schould) so they will probably create it from the GT5 base. Which is fine for a new console (PS4), but people will feel ripped off and expect it to be DLC for GT5...

Good Poll!
Good Luck to PD.

 

[victorb81]

No. Catered to because they represent an exponentially larger amount of people.

/cosigned

all the more reason to love the Bell Curve

on Topic: I voted great game, because I'm enjoying it immensely 2.5 months after release day when I bought it. It's only going to get better when my DFGT shows up! I've pretty much always been a console gamer, and this is the best racing experience for me on consoles that I've played so far.

 

[tinram]

It's not a great game, nor is is a complete disappointment. Skewed poll!

Not really, if it's not either then don't vote. Undecideds would not show up. Simple. If you do not agree with the results then another poll thread would be in order. "Some what disappointed or slightly impressed with GT5?" there you go. done.

 

[Jack002]

I lol when reading all comments about it being a bad poll. Its the exact opposite. Having only two options makes you choose a side; and leaves a very clean result.

Making the results worthless. I'd bet 90% of all who see this poll are not in agreement with either extreme case. So the poll results say nothing at all.

 

[shirakawaa]

Making the results worthless. I'd bet 90% of all who see this poll are not in agreement with either extreme case. So the poll results say nothing at all.

Then imagine you're in ancient Rome at the Colosseum.
And that GT5 is about to get killed by the competition.

You get to vote: thumbs up or thumbs down?
No other choice allowed.

 

[BWX]

I'm disappointed in GT5, but definitely no where near "complete disappointment".

I also think even with all the flaws it is still a great game and worth the $$ all day long.

So I refuse to vote, there needs to be more options. We aren't all bi-polar like this poll.

 

[maxpontiac]

which is really low considering this is the premium fan site.

If you think this is a fan site, you are only fooling yourself.

In my few years of being here, the one thing I have learned more then once is that GTPlanet is not a GT fan site. It's as neutral as they come.

 

[moeskoetie]

GREAT GAME, I LOVE IT:tup:

 

[p-coletray]

Ask me next week. I'll vote then.

 

[the Interceptor]

I don't think the poll is skewed, only the question should have been worded a little different:

"If you had to choose whether GT5 is a "great game" or a "complete disappointment", which one would it be?

On another note, I'd think that those who are on the fence - and I guess the majority of people is - would vote in favour of the game. Still getting around 30% of thumbs down is a good indicator of how many people think that there's something seriously wrong with this game.

 

[Destinkeys]

A poll that asked 'Cheese... Best food in the world or uneatable dung?' would not get anything but a laugh of derision on a food forum. But here, the exact same question gets taken seriously.

 

[HuskyGT]

Options are to close ended. I had no choice but to choose dissapointment. Although in reallity, the game is a mixture of both things. On one hand, it is probably the best racing game in history. On the other hand, small details, plus the the infamous hype that it built throughout its development ruins the whole experience sometimes. At this point, I have to quit playing it for a week or so, so I get that "need." Even doing so, my Gran Turismo sessions never exceed half an hour, before I start to get bored, or some small little negative detail appears, that makes me eject the disc emediatly and start playing another thing...

 

[the Interceptor]

A poll that asked 'Cheese... Best food in the world or uneatable dung?' would not get anything but a laugh of derision on a food forum. But here, the exact same question gets taken seriously.

That might be true, but asking about "cheese" in a food forum would be the eqivalent of asking about "racing and driving video games in general" here. If you would ask the same question about a very specific type of cheese in a food forum, you'd likely get a result as significant as the one we have in this poll.