WRC 5

[MXH]

Doesn't look very good, to be honest. Neither does SLR.

I need Dirt Rally in my life.

 

[Spitfire77]

Doesn't look very good, to be honest. Neither does SLR.

I need Dirt Rally in my life.

Yup.. same here. Will keep watching and I expect, as normal, neither WRC5 or Sebasien loeb rally evo will be out in the USA at release. So I will just let the good people of the UK and Europe test it for me

 

[Wiegert]

I don't think I've ever received a headache from watching pacenote symbols slide in and out of sight in a rally game until now. Such an unbearably jarring animation.

 

[Formula1269]

Doesn't look very good, to be honest. Neither does SLR.

I need Dirt Rally in my life.

My sentiments exactly.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Looks like we'll be getting the full spectrum of rally games this year:
Arcade = WRC5
Simcade = SLRE
"Sim" = Dirt Rally (I put quotes because it's not fully sim yet, but they're aiming there)

And apologies if this has been discussed before, but why did Milestone give up the WRC license? Did they lose it permanently or it's just "rented" out to Kylotonn?

 

[Stavingo]

Hmm, interesting with all the footage to say the least but I'll most likely wait until the game is actually released.

I don't think I've ever received a headache from watching pacenote symbols slide in and out of sight in a rally game until now. Such an unbearably jarring animation.

The feels, the whole shaking of the symbol and sliding, grinds my gears

 

[MeanElf]

Looks like we'll be getting the full spectrum of rally games this year:
Arcade = WRC5
Simcade = SLRE
"Sim" = Dirt Rally (I put quotes because it's not fully sim yet, but they're aiming there)

And apologies if this has been discussed before, but why did Milestone give up the WRC license? Did they lose it permanently or it's just "rented" out to Kylotonn?

I'm not sure why to be honest, it just sort of happened. maybe it's because Milestone would be busy with the Seb Loeb game and Ride, plus whatever else they are cooking up.

As for WRC5 - I know I'm going to get it, especially as I have quite a wait until I can play Dirt Rally. I also like that Alan Boiston is back doing the rally vids - he is the epitome of good taste calm and objectivity in the face of all the subjectivity that we know will be coming.

 

[bluemoon_19]

I think I will sit this one out. During that game play video Alan sounded very uninterested to me and I'm not keen on it being for last gen as well. I know graphics don't make the game but chances are the PS4 version will be a slight improvement over the PS3 version.

Has anybody heard of the development team before because I havn't. Edit: kylotonn games made motorcycle club for the PS4 that got 26 on metacritic so yeah.

 

[ipswich1992]

I'll be getting WRC5, SL;RE and Dirt Rally (the latter I'm waiting until I get a wheel for PC usage).

While they all differ in terms of gameplay - quality and content. None of the 3 look objectively 'Bad', just different.

Interesting to note - A. the skill of the driver in that video, seemed like he drove in a tarmac type way, whether that be the physics, setup, assists on, or just him.
Bringing me to B. What assists were on in the video.

Additionally I feel this Kyloton (spelled wrong I know) series, will be a lot like Milestone's WRC stint; the first game while average in areas (graphics and physics) will be good enough, wont be a bad game - will be enjoyable as what it is. Every new game will improve on both areas and perhaps by the 3rd (even the 2nd) will be massive leaps (while noting the original was as I said not bad).

While the critics, and even most guys on this forum, won't rave about it and perhaps might slate it - expecting a AAA quality game first time out - the game should be a fun WRC licensed game, and I will play it thoroughly, as licensed motorsport games of any quality (as long as they are playable and not PS1 gfx) interest me and thus will give me enjoyment.

I guess what I'm saying is yes it's not the best in the world, graphics & physics might not be the best in the world, the dev doesn't have a great history (but so what if this game is fun), please don't slag it just for the sake of slagging it. It's never going to be as 'good' as Dirt Rally, so while comparisons are fair, direct ones aren't really contextual.

Buy both, play both, buy DR, or don't buy or play either, the fact this isn't a full sim (RBR/DR) doesn't make it bad, unplayable, or not worthy of buying/liking just for that reason.

On a side note - I'm gonna be skint this Autumn lol


Edit - and as I have to say everytime these days - don't base graphics on YouTube videos, YouTube butchers HD video with processing and compression, and also adds a 'darkness' to uploads. I am not saying PS1 games are amazing in real life just because on YouTube they look bad, what I am saying is a YouTube video will not represent the quality of the graphics as you see them on your eye on your TV (unprocessed, uncompressed).

 

[MeanElf]

...Edit - and as I have to say everytime these days - don't base graphics on YouTube videos, YouTube butchers HD video with processing and compression, and also adds a 'darkness' to uploads. I am not saying PS1 games are amazing in real life just because on YouTube they look bad, what I am saying is a YouTube video will not represent the quality of the graphics as you see them on your eye on your TV (unprocessed, uncompressed).

Ipswich mate, welcome back - fully with you on those points.

 

[TiZzla]

Well this confirms what most of us probably expected, WRC 5 looks horrible. Arcade physics and insanely wide open stages. Dirt Rally wins..

 

[Furinkazen]

Well this confirms what most of us probably expected, WRC 5 looks horrible. Arcade physics and insanely wide open stages. Dirt Rally wins..

WRC 4 at least had legit narrow sections.

 

[SteveEnforcer]

what happened to Evolution Studios that did the WRC games for the PS2 they done a great job with those it its day and why did'nt they keep that going ? i probably will still buy WRC 5 just to add to my collection of WRC games from PS1-2 and 3

 

[MXH]

what happened to Evolution Studios that did the WRC games for the PS2 they done a great job with those it its day and why did'nt they keep that going ? i probably will still buy WRC 5 just to add to my collection of WRC games from PS1-2 and 3

They went onto making the Motorstorm games and then Driveclub. I still have WRC : Rally Evolved. Great game.

 

[ipswich1992]

That video has already been posted loll.

 

[TiZzla]

That video has already been posted loll.

Haha yeah my bad, I thought it was new since it had just been posted on the GTPlanet front page

 

[er185]

 

[Furinkazen]

Wide roads are too wide.

 

[Spitfire77]

I did not watch the full video.. but is there no cockpit cam?

I also have not seen cockpit cam for the Sebastien Loeb Evo game.

 

[er185]

I did not watch the full video.. but is there no cockpit cam?

I also have not seen cockpit cam for the Sebastien Loeb Evo game.

WRC 5 there will be cockpit cam

https://www.facebook.com/wrcofficialgame/posts/458718494300197?comment_id=458771704294876&reply_comment_id=458777477627632&total_comments=1&comment_tracking={"tn":"R9"}

 

[Speedster502]

I was at Rally Portugal this year and that stage shares literally no resemblance to the real rally. Wind turbines and gravel is about the only similarity...

Hope Dirt Rally continues on it's path as this looks terrible at the moment!

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Surprisingly it looks pretty good in that video. The cars slide around more than in Seb Loeb Rally and there's a nice sense of weight. The narrower stage helps too (though still not narrow enough).

What boggles me is that these small developers can get great engine sounds, but PD with all their resources still fails to do so after 15 years...

 

[TiZzla]

Surprisingly it looks pretty good in that video. The cars slide around more than in Seb Loeb Rally and there's a nice sense of weight. The narrower stage helps too (though still not narrow enough).

What boggles me is that these small developers can get great engine sounds, but PD with all their resources still fails to do so after 15 years...

The engines sound horrible to me, and not even remotely accurate. I agree about the physics though the car did seem to be sliding around a bit, I wouldn't say it looks great but it looks better than SLR which looks absurdly bad in terms of physics.

Both WRC 5 and SLR look very disappointing in general, at least compared to the likes of Dirt Rally.

 

[eight6er]

That last video looks ok. The car physics look more realistic than Dirt rally at least. The sounds are pretty bad though.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

The engines sound horrible to me, and not even remotely accurate. I agree about the physics though the car did seem to be sliding around a bit, I wouldn't say it looks great but it looks better than SLR which looks absurdly bad in terms of physics.

Both WRC 5 and SLR look very disappointing in general, at least compared to the likes of Dirt Rally.

Ah I wasn't referring to the accuracy (I don't watch WRC so I don't even know what the real car sounds like ), but just the sound itself is way better than any car in GT. It's lively and raw like a race car. None of the rally cars in GT sounds any good.

It's not quite Codemasters level, but for a small dev I think it's alright.

 

[TiZzla]

Ah I wasn't referring to the accuracy (I don't watch WRC so I don't even know what the real car sounds like ), but just the sound itself is way better than any car in GT. It's lively and raw like a race car. None of the rally cars in GT sounds any good.

It's not quite Codemasters level, but for a small dev I think it's alright.

Well yes compared to a vacuum cleaner it does probably sound good but it sounds nothing like the real thing.

The WRC license needs to be taken by a big Developer, I'm sick of these lame arcade style games.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

The WRC license needs to be taken by a big Developer, I'm sick of these lame arcade style games.

I reckon Codemasters should drop their F1 license and get the WRC one. But that can be a double edged sword in itself because I quite enjoy the wide variety of off road disciplines (Rallycross, Raid, Buggy, Hillclimb) and I'm not sure if they will still be allowed to put those events in an official WRC game. On the other hand, PD did have the WRC license for GT5 (which they squandered badly) and it's ok for them to have other cars and tracks in the game. So maybe the WRC license is more flexible than F1?

 

[RACECAR]

I reckon Codemasters should drop their F1 license and get the WRC one. But that can be a double edged sword in itself because I quite enjoy the wide variety of off road disciplines (Rallycross, Raid, Buggy, Hillclimb) and I'm not sure if they will still be allowed to put those events in an official WRC game. On the other hand, PD did have the WRC license for GT5 (which they squandered badly) and it's ok for them to have other cars and tracks in the game. So maybe the WRC license is more flexible than F1?

As I understand, The F1 license is exclusive only to that one Developer and its quite strict if I recall. The WRC license I believe isn't exclusive to One Developer as I recall it was with PD AND that other developer at the same time (can't remember their names, but they did the Moto GP games before losing that license).

 

[MeanElf]

I reckon Codemasters should drop their F1 license and get the WRC one. But that can be a double edged sword in itself because I quite enjoy the wide variety of off road disciplines (Rallycross, Raid, Buggy, Hillclimb) and I'm not sure if they will still be allowed to put those events in an official WRC game. On the other hand, PD did have the WRC license for GT5 (which they squandered badly) and it's ok for them to have other cars and tracks in the game. So maybe the WRC license is more flexible than F1?

Codemasters recently announced that they have got the WRC license, and if I remember the comments, they will also be branching out to cover the other race types you mentioned.

As for WRC5 in general - it looks good enough to me for flinging the cars around and having fun...some people seem to forget that games are primarily for enjoyment. This one will do that nicely for me.

 

[MagpieRacer]

As I understand, The F1 license is exclusive only to that one Developer and its quite strict if I recall. The WRC license I believe isn't exclusive to One Developer as I recall it was with PD AND that other developer at the same time (can't remember their names, but they did the Moto GP games before losing that license).

Milestone, and I do believe they still have the motogp license.