Body modding, custom tuning and GT5...

[wolfke]

I'm reading this with fresh eyes to..

Still says the same to me.. no go for standard cars .

ask to try standard car in gt chop (that guy on youtupe) !

 

[BORDER323]

ask to try standard car in gt chop (that guy on youtupe) !

He has been asked by several members, but remember he owes us nothing, and will im sure have other things to attend to than answering our questions every day. He has mentioned he has a wife and children, I cant fault him for them taking preference in his day over a game.

 

[gaming25]

I'm reading this with fresh eyes to..

Still says the same to me.. no go for standard cars .

If the car in the pic is a standard car (which by other people's comments, I assume it is, unless that is just a model car for the menu or something) then its pretty obvious to me that you can change the wheels on standard cars.

 

[lator-illa]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. If it is the case where we CANNOT change the wheels on Standard cars, then I will be severely disappointed. Some of you might see this as trivial, but I personally enjoy changing the set of wheels whenever I purchase a vehicle in GT5/Forza 3. It's usually the first mod I make! I just can't see the reason why PD would allow something like this. I would see it as a major step-back in the series tbh. Don't get me wrong, I will still enjoy the game as it has many other features going for it. But to take away the feature where we can add our own personalities to our cars, is just again...DISAPPOINTING!

 

[BORDER323]

If the car in the pic is a standard car (which by other people's comments, I assume it is, unless that is just a model car for the menu or something) then its pretty obvious to me that you can change the wheels on standard cars.

So how do you get around the text saying , on standard cars you can't change wheels ??

What was the reason for them putting that text there if it's not true ?

Seem's a little pointless to have it there if it's false.

 

[cjmodiano]

I feel for you people who are trying to re interpret that statement, but c'mon.

You cannot change wheels on standard cars. You can't. It sucks, but that's PD for you.

 

[BORDER323]

I feel for you people who are trying to re interpret that statement, but c'mon.

You cannot change wheels on standard cars. You can't. It sucks, but that's PD for you.

lol.. Harsh but fair

I would love it to be a Typo, or misunderstanding of the term, but it does clearly state it's not possible.

 

[Tenacious D]

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. If it is the case where we CANNOT change the wheels on Standard cars, then I will be severely disappointed. Some of you might see this as trivial, but I personally enjoy changing the set of wheels whenever I purchase a vehicle in GT5/Forza 3. It's usually the first mod I make! I just can't see the reason why PD would allow something like this. I would see it as a major step-back in the series tbh. Don't get me wrong, I will still enjoy the game as it has many other features going for it. But to take away the feature where we can add our own personalities to our cars, is just again...DISAPPOINTING!

I think it's because Kaz made the decision early on when they made the choice to include the Standard models to focus work on getting those cars running properly in the GT5 engine, and devote most of the effort of the modeling teams to the Premium cars and tracks. This means no remodeling of the hundreds of wheels modeled for GT4.

We aren't getting the black frame interiors from GTPSP either, but it's possible something wasn't working well in that regard. But evidently redoing all the GT4 wheels would have been a lot of work.

 

[gaming25]

So how do you get around the text saying , on standard cars you can't change wheels ??

What was the reason for them putting that text there if it's not true ?

Seem's a little pointless to have it there if it's false.

I thought that the car behind it was being tuned, I didnt know that the text caption was supposed to be the info for the feature.

 

[Gt5anticip8r]

It's fairly obvious, I think. You can either buy an entirely new set of rims, or you can swap the ones your car is riding on for antoher set which you already own. And it's perfectly clear that Standard cars cannot have aftermarket wheels fitted. Not that that's surprising, since Standard cars are nothing but a marketing gimmick.

 

[gaming25]

It's fairly obvious, I think. You can either buy an entirely new set of rims, or you can swap the ones your car is riding on for antoher set which you already own. And it's perfectly clear that Standard cars cannot have aftermarket wheels fitted. Not that that's surprising, since Standard cars are nothing but a marketing gimmick.

Well then its a good one, because there will be plenty of people that will like to play with the over a 1000+ cars with state of the art physics that GT5 offers. The wheel changing for the standard cars wont be missed much at all.

 

[VXR]

Well then its a good one, because there will be plenty of people that will like to play with over a 1000 cars with the state of the art physics engine.

I'm almost certain once someone has been wowed by their first premium, they'll look at a stock standard car and just go 'meh'.

Online will be a barrel of laughs when 16 red cars turn up, all wearing the same wheels and unlikely to have race numbers on them.

 

[Aarron_M]

Someone who doubts it...please explain the phrase

"purchase new wheels or change your existing set"

Do you believe that to be the same thing, if so, why would it have both those statements. Why not "Change your wheels" or "purchase new wheels" but not both? It includes both, because both options are available for "Premium" cars, but purchasing new wheels is the only choice for "Standard" cars. It's pretty easy to logically understand. I can't believe you guys think it won't be available. You guys probably believe the game will be available in 2011 as well, but not 2010.

 

[gaming25]

I'm almost certain once someone has been wowed by their first premium, they'll look at a stock standard car and just go 'meh'.

Online will be a barrel of laughs when 16 red cars turn up, all wearing the same wheels and unlikely to have race numbers on them.

Plenty of people will be playing with standard cars. I quite frankly couldnt care less about the wheels for the cars. And the odds of 16 cars having the same colors or even half of them is ridiculous, you know that.

 

[VXR]

Some cars in GT4 only came in one or two colours. It's not impossible.

 

[arvin charles]

Someone who doubts it...please explain the phrase

"purchase new wheels or change your existing set"

Do you believe that to be the same thing, if so, why would it have both those statements. Why not "Change your wheels" or "purchase new wheels" but not both? It includes both, because both options are available for "Premium" cars, but purchasing new wheels is the only choice for "Standard" cars. It's pretty easy to logically understand. I can't believe you guys think it won't be available. You guys probably believe the game will be available in 2011 as well, but not 2010.

Hmm, are you suggesting that we might have the option of widening or adding lips to OEM wheels?

 

[Aarron_M]

Hmm, are you suggesting that we might have the option of widening or adding lips to OEM wheels?

Yes, I believe that the way that's worded, we will have the option of altering the OEM wheels on Premium cars. Maybe in diameter only.

 

[VXR]

Purchase a rim is self explanatory. If you owned several rims you'd already purchased, then you'd change them for another set.

There's more proof in the black & white we've seen already than the permutations of English that people are conjuring from nowhere.

 

[arvin charles]

Aarron, that's an interesting & hopeful way of looking at it.

But I'm reading the part of you cannot change wheels on a standard car as "you cannot modify OEM wheels or purchase a new set." Generally, we won't be able to change wheels period.

To clarify, when I swap a different set of wheels on my car, I'm "changing" my wheels.

But then again, I'm not Japanese, so it could just be a lost in translation kind of thing for PD.

 

[eSZee]

Someone who doubts it...please explain the phrase

"purchase new wheels or change your existing set"

So it hasn't hit you that maybe just maybe, and this is a huge maybe since apparently only you on this whole forum understand english,, that at that very screen where you purchase wheels, you also go there to change to other already purchased wheels? For example you buy a few sets and you just go back there to swap out the sets. In previous GT games you had to repurchase wheels once you bought a new set but for once maybe PD decided to do something that makes just a little sense and let us have more than one set of wheels for a car. Certainly makes more sense than what you're saying.

 

[Tenacious D]

Some cars in GT4 only came in one or two colours. It's not impossible.

You'll have to refresh my memory, because with rare exceptions, only a small handful of classic cars - and obviously the race cars - were limited to one or two paint jobs.

But I'm obviously one of the guys who'll be racing in the Standard cars, a lot of them, since most of my beloved rides will end up in the Standard car lots. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Gorgeous graphics are nice and all, but I want to experience all these cars, and GT4 still looks good to me. The Standards in GT5 will look way better.

 

[RAVELLRON]

for changing current sets mean for sure like we did in gt4 for any kind of tyres...
remember there were a kind of wheels for the snow tyre, for the dirt, for the tarmac...

 

[Prodigy122]

I think the ability to purchase "new" wheels will still be available for standard cars. We will however, not be allowed to "change" the current wheels. I think size and width are what's being referred to here. 👍

Let's Hope so. I know that some people don't care about the standard models and won't even (or say they won't) drive them. But I on the other hand, intend to drive/ own Premium and Standard. I really hope that you're right.

 

[sumbrownkid]

PD should have written the descriptions in each language natively instead of translating. I'm sure a lot of this confusion wouldn't have been going on right now.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Some cars in GT4 only came in one or two colours. It's not impossible.

Heh, race the STI hatch in Prologue and I'm willing to bet what colour you'll usually see most .

Provided these new paint chips let us paint Standards too (and there doesn't seem to be a warning against it), we will at least see unique colours online. Though all having stock rims and no numbers is still very disappointing for a game in 2010.

Yes, I believe that the way that's worded, we will have the option of altering the OEM wheels on Premium cars. Maybe in diameter only.

Don't get me wrong Aarron, I really do hope that we have more wheel options in GT5, instead of GT4's whole "buy racing tires to increase rim size by +1" thing. But just as you are hung up on the first sentence and how it can be intepreted, I'm locking onto that last sentence.

(Hooray for similar discussions in two different threads )

So it hasn't hit you that maybe just maybe, and this is a huge maybe since apparently only you on this whole forum understand english,, that at that very screen where you purchase wheels, you also go there to change to other already purchased wheels? For example you buy a few sets and you just go back there to swap out the sets.

This is what I'm thinking...

In previous GT games you had to repurchase wheels once you bought a new set but for once maybe PD decided to do something that makes just a little sense and let us have more than one set of wheels for a car. Certainly makes more sense than what you're saying.

Actually, GT3 had a pretty neat (if horribly unrealistic) system of once you bought a specific aftermarket rim, you "owned" it and could place it on as many cars as you wanted. They just showed up in the wheel menu in the garage. GT4 was more realistic, in that you had to buy a set more than once, but a step backwards in the sense that no car could own more than one wheel per tire type (Normal/Sport, Race, and Rally/Snow)

 

[FishforRent]

Dave and Aarron both have compelling arguements (read: points of view) that leave me still undecided. The quoted text in the screen shot could still be applied to both positions if we knew the context of the statement.

I want to believe that PD wouldn't sacrifice this bit of custumization, especially since these wheels were previously modelled for use in photomode in GT4, which is the presumed 3d model being used for these standard cars as a whole.

I agree with Slip that the unrealistic presentation of wheel choices allowed in GT3, whereby I could buy Oz's for my GTR and then put them on my Miata the next race was kinda silly.

So with the fact that these wheels are modelled and add in the fact that wheel purchases were changed for GT4 where wheels were bought per car (as it should be), leans me toward the way of Aarron's thinking. That the word "change" in that text is referring to physical properties and not to the method of wheel replacement.

 

[Aarron_M]

Dave and Aarron both have compelling arguements (read: points of view) that leave me still undecided. The quoted text in the screen shot could still be applied to both positions if we knew the context of the statement.

I want to believe that PD wouldn't sacrifice this bit of custumization, especially since these wheels were previously modelled for use in photomode in GT4, which is the presumed 3d model being used for these standard cars as a whole.

I agree with Slip that the unrealistic presentation of wheel choices allowed in GT3, whereby I could buy Oz's for my GTR and then put them on my Miata the next race was kinda silly.

So with the fact that these wheels are modelled and add in the fact that wheel purchases were changed for GT4 where wheels were bought per car (as it should be), leans me toward the way of Aarron's thinking. That the word "change" in that text is referring to physical properties and not to the method of wheel replacement.

Thanks.

Only one way to solve it. We need someone with a pirated copy to purchase a Standard car and attempt to put/buy rims for it. And then upload to youtube. 👍

 

[arvin charles]

So it hasn't hit you that maybe just maybe, and this is a huge maybe since apparently only you on this whole forum understand english,, that at that very screen where you purchase wheels, you also go there to change to other already purchased wheels? For example you buy a few sets and you just go back there to swap out the sets. In previous GT games you had to repurchase wheels once you bought a new set but for once maybe PD decided to do something that makes just a little sense and let us have more than one set of wheels for a car. Certainly makes more sense than what you're saying.

No way. Different cars need different offsets & lug patterns, not to mention brake clearance.

You can't just buy one set of wheels and use it for every car you own. That's just unrealistic.

 

[eSZee]

No way. Different cars need different offsets & lug patterns, not to mention brake clearance.

You can't just buy one set of wheels and use it for every car you own. That's just unrealistic.

Where did I say you can swap wheels between different cars? Please do show me.

 

[Ch0zander]

Where did I say you can swap wheels between different cars? Please do show me.

If you really want to be realistic, you should be able to use some rims with different cars. For example, many GM vehicles have identical wheels. Like I found out that my opel's winter rims were identical to my Saab's summer rims.