And this THE reason why you're a Catholic. Childhood indoctrination.
Forgive this lengthy quote from A.C. Grayling, but it's gold:
Religions survive mainly because they brainwash the young. Three-quarters of Church of England schools are primary schools; all the faiths currently jostling for our tax money to run their "faith-based" schools know that if they do not proselytize intellectually defenseless three and four-year-olds, their grip will eventually loosen. Inculcating the various competing — competing, note — falsehoods of the major faiths into small children is a form of child abuse, and a scandal. Let us challenge religion to leave children alone until they are adults, whereupon they can be presented with the essentials of religion for mature consideration.
For example: tell an averagely intelligent adult hitherto free of religious brainwashing that somewhere, invisibly, there is a being somewhat like us, with desires, interests, purposes, memories, and emotions of anger, love, vengefulness, and jealousy, yet with the negation of such other of our failings as mortality, weakness, corporeality, visibility, limited knowledge and insight; and that this god magically impregnates a mortal woman, who then gives birth to a special being who performs various prodigious feats before departing for heaven. Take your pick of which version of this story to tell: let a King of Heaven impregnate — let's see — Danae or Io or Leda or the Virgin Mary (etc., etc.) and let there be resulting heaven-destined progeny (Heracles, Castor and Pollux, Jesus., etc., etc.) — or any of the other forms of exactly such tales in Babylonian, Egyptian, and other mythologies — then ask which of them he wishes to believe. One can guarantee that such a person would say: none of them. (A. C. Grayling)
No Tic Tach, I am Catholic because I chose to be Catholic when I reached the adult age. Did you not read the many people in this thread saying they were raised christians and later became atheists?
I'll tell you this. It is MUCH MORE difficult, in our western
"all-you-see-is-all-there-is" society, to keep any kind of faith, than it is to abandon it.
I am a firm believer in the existence of God. And I think I wouldn't be so firm in my belief had I not been able to overcome the "childhood" baby Jesus, had I not been able to confront myself, to confront others, and to be confronted by others, about God and the religious belief. Maybe I would be just another mindless sheep in some kind of flock, but that would be meaningless. One must DOUBT to really believe. Like when we say that there no heroicity without fear, I say there's no faith without an everlasting doubt.
It's also all this doubting, and questioning, and reasoning, and longing for the many absolutes we can conceive and theorize but can never reach that make ever more certain that in me, as in you, there's more to it than what you can see, experiment, taste or measure.
But enough, I'm not here to expand on my own experience of faith, nor am I here to convince anyone. As I said, all I require from others is the same respect I give them.
And this leads me to your quoted text. Time and again, this "1984esque" temptation arises. If you want to take away the kids from parents that don't give a **** about them (very common in our modern societies) we can discuss that. If you want to take away the kids from parents that teach them that killing innocents in the name of a political or a religious claim is good ... please do, I'll vote "Yay" to that also.
Now, if you try to mess with how I educate my children because I tell them God exists, Jesus was His Son and God himself, and I teach them what Jesus preached and tell them that they should lead their lives in accordance with that, I'll only say this:
Don't. Raise your children telling them your own non-beliefs at will, that's yours, and theirs, problem, I won't interfere because I respect your own options and the fact you are their father.
And, of course, I see no harm done there, as long as you pass on to your kids some fundamental values about living in a human society. With, or without, the belief in God.
You listed what you believe. I want to know why you have those beliefs and why you feel they are valid. You answer amounts to:
"I believe in God and Spirituality because I believe in God and Spirituality."
It amounts to a lot more, you just didn't read properly, or maybe it's all my fault, not being a native English I probably don't know the apropriate words to explain why my own reasoning makes me believe in a spiritual me.
Let's leave at rest then. You think my reply is what is written above ... ok, I can live with that
