FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Pigems]

I was going to try and run only the soft tire but I just cannot see that going well with me in the Supra.

You’re better off, the Mediums don’t last any longer and they’re still slower. I’m gonna try 5S/5S/5S to start and modify from there.

 

[Veinz]

You’re better off, the Mediums don’t last any longer and they’re still slower. I’m gonna try 5S/5S/5S to start and modify from there.

My tire management sucks with the softs, the mediums last a little longer for me though. I will probably try a S+M+M strategy first depending on how long I can go on the mediums.

 

[watto79]

Attempt number 2 was arguably worse. To kick things off there were no less than 11 Porches in the lobby... I then make a mistake on my qualifying lap so start 13th. Things are going okay (managing to avoid a couple of turn 1 dive bombs penalty free this time) when this happens after my first stop. I've never lost it on that curb before. I checked the replay and I didn't touch the green stuff. I can only assume I had a tad too much steering input, but the dramatic spin really took me by surprise as riding that curb has never been an issue. Recover to a staggering 14th. Not my night. Top 6 were all 911's. As much as I like Alfa Romeo I'm having a pretty crappy run of results at the moment and should be doing much better

 

[Veinz]

Ok so @Pigems I think I will try your strategy now. Started 17th, went for the one stop, finished 19th lol.

You don’t lose much time by pitting.

 

[GTWolverine]

1st slot for N. America: Qualified (surprisngly) 2nd, took the lead after the polesitter messed up turn 2, and held it as he and I slowly dropped everyone until we were the only ones in our draft. He was content to sit behind me and didn't try any moves. On the 2nd round of pitstops, I braked going into the pits (as I seem to remember getting a penalty for hitting th wall too hard, but 2nd place doesn't, and I get a 4s penalty for "Forcing a car off track" because the game thought I put 2nd place into the wall. I drop down to 4th and ultimately finish there for 183 points. On the surface it's not a bad points total (especially at a track I desspise), but I should've had at least 2nd, and I finished worse than I started, so I'm gonna risk it and go again in the next slot...

 

[JoeDaSnow]

After today's race where I finished 8th, I declare that it was my last one in stage . I cite my desire to revert back to what I had signed with in the previous season of the Manufacturers Series.

 

[Veinz]

I think I’ll only do one race, I didn’t do much preparation at all and i’m the type of guy who does like 20 laps of practice before a daily race. I think I had a few too many beer now anyway lol.

I started on softs in the Supra and had the bright idea to try a 1 stop. I pit on lap 6 for mediums. By the time I hit lap 14 it felt like I was driving a shopping cart so I dropped from like 14th to 19th like f all.

This was my first FIA race in 2 years, I lost about 1300 DR points but everyone drove like pros, loved it.

 

[GTWolverine]

2nd slot: started 16th, finished 18th. Could've had maybe a top-10. I think I'm gonna be here all night now...🤬

 

[Pigems]

Well now, that was fun. I got to spend 15 laps fighting for last place, not much sense in trying again.

 

[barak181]

Not a bad night, not a great night, just kind of a meh night.

Slot 1 qualified 9th, I finished L1 P6 but behind the lead pack. By the end of L2, I catch them and am actually moving into P5 coming out of the final corner when I somehow bottle it bad. I spin around 2-3 times and end up facing the wrong way. By the time I turn myself around I'm P19. From there it was just a frustrating slog forward through traffic to finish P13. I did a 2-stopper - 5S/5S/5S. Even with the 5th laps of each stint being fairly slippery, I still felt it was a better option the one stopper.

Slot 2. 2-stopper again. Qualied 8th this time. Right away going into T1, I'm that guy. I felt like I hit my braking point but everyone else was stacked up way slower than me going into the corner. I swerve to the inside to miss as many people as possible, I turn the wheel hard and slid into the apex taking out P3 & 4. I did a fairly crap lap as I'm feeling horrible about the first corner, wondering if I should have just pulled over and let the field pass me. But coming out of the final corner into the straight, one of the guys I punted punts me back pretty hard and I fall back to P12. I don't feel quite so bad anymore. Not a lot to report after that, I move up and down the field a little bit and finish P12.

 

[GTWolverine]

3rd slot: Started 12th, finished 6th. 4th-7th were inseparable in the last half of the race, and 2nd and 3rd were just out of slipstream range. I lost 5th to a 4c who passed around the OUTSIDE of the final turn on the last lap. I wish I was that trusting of other drivers...

179 points, 6 spots gained from where I started. I'm done.

 

[The359]

Had a surprisingly good night with the very front heavy V12 Vantage. Screwed up my qualifying both times but was able to climb my way through the field. Second race I qualified 17th but through conservation and aggressive moves, I climbed to 4th, for 219 points. I figured I might be able to do better if I could qualify near the top, but I figured I had had enough luck for the night and decided to not try for the final slot.

 

[Trone_Colby]

Well my race went crap by T1 L1 shenanigans. Later in lap one, I was punted. I didn’t catch who it was. I was in P20 from P14.

Later that race I got into it with some jackwagon:



There are 4 views. My view, the punter (chump) view which shows the revenge and epic crash out that left his car totaled, the bystander view and slow motion. 3 minute video.

Anyway, going down the straight before turn 1 I got a boost from his stream and moved to his inside and passed him before the braking zone. I stayed on his inside. This dude (orange car) decides to go right behind me and brake late to punt me. I returned the favor. He had plenty of room if he would have kept his line. You can see that clearly in the bystander view.

 

[adokeeffe]

Not much to report from Fuji. Punted off by a Ferrari on lap 1 and fell from about 8th place to 15th, and then incurred a penalty for cutting across Dunlop corner (twice I think). Managed to claw my way back to finish 6th, taking full advantage of everyone else's frequent pit stops, and other drivers inner desire to ram each other off the track to gain one place they have no hope of holding on to. Wishing I was driving the Vantage V12 though, I'm just not getting on with the DBR9.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Well, bland race on Fujii. Qualified on 4th in the rsr with a DBr9 on pole followed by another RSR and a Beetle.
Come T1, L1 the Beetle and the other rsr muscle the DB9r out of the way and goes off. I follow but the DBr tries to sideswipe me. Luckily I just gets little loose and carries on in 4th while the DBr falls back to 6th.
After that, after every pit stop he tries to get me again.
The last ten laps I get in first when the two pits but they come catch me again.
I make plenty of room,but the Beetle has to push me off in the second last turn to get back up....
Two last laps I fight with another beetle for 4th with yet one more rsr behind, patiently.
I get a small slide coming out of the second to last, he goes by (well deserved) and I finish as p5.
Door number 16, so I am ok with that.

 

[Peddler13]

I had planned to race at Fuji, done hours of racing simulations and all, but I came down with a headache I tried to drive a gr. 3 car but I was useless.
I am fine now and my practice consistency in a gr.3 car is paying off. Doing very well in the new daily B race.

I am new to this, how often do the daily races change?

I think I might give the next nations cup gr.2 race a miss, even if it is Spa that I know well. I can peddle a gr.3 car well but gr.2 cars are a bit out of my grasp.
Looking forward to the gr.4 manufacturers cup race though. I have learnt that circuit well with it being last weeks daily B race

 

[Pigems]

I had planned to race at Fuji, done hours of racing simulations and all, but I came down with a headache I tried to drive a gr. 3 car but I was useless.
I am fine now and my practice consistency in a gr.3 car is paying off. Doing very well in the new daily B race.

I am new to this, how often do the daily races change?

I think I might give the next nations cup gr.2 race a miss, even if it is Spa that I know well. I can peddle a gr.3 car well but gr.2 cars are a bit out of my grasp.
Looking forward to the gr.4 manufacturers cup race though. I have learnt that circuit well with it being last weeks daily B race

Dailies change every Monday morning.

 

[Peddler13]

Thanks

 

[ivann]

Attempt number 2 was arguably worse. To kick things off there were no less than 11 Porches in the lobby... I then make a mistake on my qualifying lap so start 13th. Things are going okay (managing to avoid a couple of turn 1 dive bombs penalty free this time) when this happens after my first stop. I've never lost it on that curb before. I checked the replay and I didn't touch the green stuff. I can only assume I had a tad too much steering input, but the dramatic spin really took me by surprise as riding that curb has never been an issue. Recover to a staggering 14th. Not my night. Top 6 were all 911's. As much as I like Alfa Romeo I'm having a pretty crappy run of results at the moment and should be doing much better

I remember that curb as well



and at 58:00 replay with diferent cams.

 

[Ashthebash]

Attempt number 2 was arguably worse. To kick things off there were no less than 11 Porches in the lobby... I then make a mistake on my qualifying lap so start 13th. Things are going okay (managing to avoid a couple of turn 1 dive bombs penalty free this time) when this happens after my first stop. I've never lost it on that curb before. I checked the replay and I didn't touch the green stuff. I can only assume I had a tad too much steering input, but the dramatic spin really took me by surprise as riding that curb has never been an issue. Recover to a staggering 14th. Not my night. Top 6 were all 911's. As much as I like Alfa Romeo I'm having a pretty crappy run of results at the moment and should be doing much better

That red bit just beyond the kerb has had me off a few times, notably last week in the Gr2 cars. Your penalty was clearly for being too polite!

 

[watto79]

I remember that curb as well



and at 58:00 replay with diferent cams.

I'm sorry that seeing it happen to someone else makes me feel a bit better! Unbelievable the snap from everything being fine to facing the wrong way.

That red bit just beyond the kerb has had me off a few times, notably last week in the Gr2 cars. Your penalty was clearly for being too polite!

It's a shame that curb didn't get me in practice as I'd have been a bit more careful. At least I know now.

And yes, trying to leave space for dive bombers is clearly the wrong thing to do. It wasn't even the car behind me, it was the TWO cars behind them! Must win at first corner mentality right there

Thanks for the replies people. I was feeling pretty glum about it all last night but there are bigger worries in the world than to get frustrated with a game 👍

 

[CurbHog]

Race 7 - Fuji
Well, no video will be posted.
This was painful and I actually contemplated to not participating at all.
The Medium tires on the McLaren was really hard to handle on lap 6 and 7 and I needed that strategy as the Soft only lasted 4 laps.
However, I botched the quali by getting too far out in the first turn and I spun into the rail.
So I started 20th and I believe I ended up 17th or so.
I dont understand why they have to crank up the tire wear so high to force two stop!

Lets see what the next race have in store .... The tire situation will be much different in that race....

 

[roamingbard13]

Yeah, Fuji wasn't fun last night.

I qualified P5 (DR A, 170 something for the win), and then managed to take a 2 second penalty as I got pushed into the pits at the first stop. I was P10 after that, and got caught behind someone who was a lot slower and good at taking away space to pass, and then would use my slip to pass me before the straight ends. The Genesis feels so slow compared to everyone else, even when I got a good shot at the straight I'd get easily passed. I took a half second limits penalty toward the end of the race trying to find some space to get by, and ended up finishing P12 for 90 points. I would have been thrilled with 90 points in the pre-season -- my 141 from Lago and 144 from Big Willow are the scores are still holding for now. DTG will be tough sledding, but hopefully I'll qualify well at Laguna.

Also, I'm ditching Hyundai for the next round. I'll either go to Volkswagen and hope the BOP gods shine upon the scirocco, or I'll go back to Jaguar.

 

[chuyler1]

Last night's take away...

1. How do these drivers manage to get to a "S" safety rating and cannot negotiate lap 1 turn 1? I honestly think the game should dish out double penalties for any contact in the first 30 seconds of the game. I hate tracks where drafting compresses the field before the first turn. From now on, I'm just going to hug the inside line.
   
   
2. Late apexes are for qualifying, not for lap 1. If you going to brake late, end up off the driving line, slow down, and cut in at the last second, you're gonna find someone's nose in your way. If it's me that does it to you, I'll give you a freebee later on, but others won't be so kind. If you've already hit me to get past earlier in the race, tough luck, you had it coming.
   
   
3. Practice your pit stop entry before race day. I saw above that someone got hit with a 4 sec penalty and I did the same thing to someone when they braked in front of me. Raw deal...but that's the price you pay for not knowing how much speed you can take into the pits.
   
   
4. I hate qualifying, I can never find open track and even when I leave enough space in front of me, I get someone behind me trying to push me off the track. I saw someone get a penalty DURING qualifying for hitting someone. Another got a penalty during the warm up. Wow. Just wow.
   
   
5. After reviewing the race, I saw some drivers were running RM tires for a few stints. With my Atenza, the only required tire was RS, is that the case for all vehicles and these drivers just didn't read the rules?
   
   
6. When do I get placed in lobbies where drivers know to back out of a pass attempt when it's going to slow the both of us down?

Anyway, despite all the drama, I went from 12th to 3rd in one race and 11th to 13th in lap one to 3rd by the end in another. Both races were all B/S rated drivers and I scored 132 points. Here's the more exciting of the two. Mid pack racing is intense with everyone thinking they can pass on any corner.

 

[roamingbard13]

ow do these drivers manage to get to a "S" safety rating and cannot negotiate lap 1 turn 1? I honestly think the game should dish out double penalties for any contact in the first 30 seconds of the game. I hate tracks where drafting compresses the field before the first turn. From now on, I'm just going to hug the inside line.

I agree -- my room last night was great this way. Everyone stayed in line -- no one tried to be a hero on the first corner.

Practice your pit stop entry before race day. I saw above that someone got hit with a 4 sec penalty and I did the same thing to someone when they braked in front of me. Raw deal...but that's the price you pay for not knowing how much speed you can take into the pits.

I'm sorry that you assumed that I was going too slow, and that the person behind me wasn't going too fast. I practiced going into the pits. I got used as the brakes by someone.

qualifying, I can never find open track and even when I leave enough space in front of me, I get someone behind me trying to push me off the track. I saw someone get a penalty DURING qualifying for hitting someone. Another got a penalty during the warm up. Wow. Just wow.

My experience in B rooms during the last round was to get out early and finish early. No reason to fuel burn, especially if you're confident in putting down a decent lap regardless. My best results last season where when I found space to run on my own without having to worry about others. In the A rooms this season, a slipstream qualifying lap is more necessary. I wouldn't have started top 5 last night without it.

After reviewing the race, I saw some drivers were running RM tires for a few stints. With my Atenza, the only required tire was RS, is that the case for all vehicles and these drivers just didn't read the rules?

The guy who won my room last night for 170+ points started on mediums. He got an extra lap or maybe 2 out of his first stint, and that made his RS stints shorter and more effective.

Late apexes are for qualifying, not for lap 1. If you going to brake late, end up off the driving line, slow down, and cut in at the last second, you're gonna find someone's nose in your way. If it's me that does it to you, I'll give you a freebee later on, but others won't be so kind. If you've already hit me to get past earlier in the race, tough luck, you had it coming.

When do I get placed in lobbies where drivers know to back out of a pass attempt when it's going to slow the both of us down?

These two things are contradictory. The fastest line at Fuji is nearly always a little wide, especially Sector 3 and T1. If YOU are going to stick your nose in just because you are seeing space, then YOU are slowing everyone down. Someone did this in my race last night on the first or second lap to me in P5 and the guy in front of me in P4, and he caused all of use to lose the slip to the top 3 (and no one ever got it back again).

 

[GTWolverine]

I'm sorry that you assumed that I was going too slow, and that the person behind me wasn't going too fast. I practiced going into the pits. I got used as the brakes by someone.

I'm fairly certain he was talking about me, since I was the one who mentioned getting a 4s penalty, not 2s. But I also practiced going into the pits, and braking during the left kink was the only way to avoid slamming the wall and getting a negative SR. After that penalty I decided to just throw the car into the pits in my next 2 races and just take the SR down... I still dabbed the brakes a bit though.

 

[chuyler1]

I'm sorry that you assumed that I was going too slow, and that the person behind me wasn't going too fast. I practiced going into the pits. I got used as the brakes by someone.

I don't know your specific situation, i found that just coasting in worked fine, but in my video the car about 3-4 lengths ahead of me hit the brakes hard and I coasted right into him, how am I supposed to anticipate that?

These two things are contradictory. The fastest line at Fuji is nearly always a little wide, especially Sector 3 and T1. If YOU are going to stick your nose in just because you are seeing space, then YOU are slowing everyone down. Someone did this in my race last night on the first or second lap to me in P5 and the guy in front of me in P4, and he caused all of use to lose the slip to the top 3 (and no one ever got it back again).

Let me re-clarify, VERY late apexes are not for lap 1. I'm not talking about having drivers stick their nose deep into a corner where it doesn't belong well after turn-in. I'm talking about situations where the ahead driver misses their braking point and cuts across the corner late. It can be avoided by just running a safe line that guarantees you don't miss the apex, but once you are off line, you aren't likely to be let back in without contact as a train of cars behind you haven't missed the braking point and aren't going to wait around to see if you make it.

 

[milehighmadd]

Spa with Gr2 for Nations race scheduled for Saturday is downright sexy, but the grid start will likely lead to some mayhem. Tire wear at 10x for 10 laps with RH required. Just did a trial run with the 08 GTR. My initial try was 6RM/4RH with fuel but think 5/5 or even 6RH/4RM would be better. And you could very likely get away without refueling with short shifting + minor fuel mapping.

I do have an open lobby set up now if anyone wants to practice.

 

[watto79]

Spa with Gr2 for Nations race scheduled for Saturday is downright sexy, but the grid start will likely lead to some mayhem. Tire wear at 10x for 10 laps with RH required. Just did a trial run with the 08 GTR. My initial try was 6RM/4RH with fuel but think 5/5 or even 6RH/4RM would be better. And you could very likely get away without refueling while short shifting. Curious if anyone has given it a go.

I do have an open lobby set up now if anyone wants to practice.

Only did a small amount of practice but fairly sure short shifting to avoid refuelling will be the way to go. Like you said for tyres, you just need to work out how many laps you can make the mediums last. My preference would be to start on Hards but that might make the standing start even more of a challenge. The first lap will be congested making medium tyres a bit of a waste. Better to save the fast tyre for later when things are spread out. The start and first corner is going to be tasty anyway!

 

[milehighmadd]

Plus, medium tires with less fuel is inherently better. Hard tires don't seem too bad especially with race start time of 1200.