FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[roamingbard13]

Only did a small amount of practice but fairly sure short shifting to avoid refuelling will be the way to go. Like you said for tyres, you just need to work out how many laps you can make the mediums last. My preference would be to start on Hards but that might make the standing start even more of a challenge. The first lap will be congested making medium tyres a bit of a waste. Better to save the fast tyre for later when things are spread out. The start and first corner is going to be tasty anyway!

Usually, a P15 or below start is a death knell, but maybe it wouldn't be so bad for this race!

Thanks for hosting a room @milehighmadd ! I wish I could have put more laps down, but I have a meeting starting here in a few minutes.

 

[milehighmadd]

Usually, a P15 or below start is a death knell, but maybe it wouldn't be so bad for this race!

Thanks for hosting a room @milehighmadd ! I wish I could have put more laps down, but I have a meeting starting here in a few minutes.

My pleasure. I'll probably still have it up. Really enjoying this combo.

 

[Ashthebash]

And yes, trying to leave space for dive bombers is clearly the wrong thing to do. It wasn't even the car behind me, it was the TWO cars behind them! Must win at first corner mentality right there

One of those two seems to regularly be involved in incidents of bad behaviour! Quick, no doubt, but I've seen him get abuse after many a race

Spa with Gr2 for Nations race scheduled for Saturday is downright sexy, but the grid start will likely lead to some mayhem. Tire wear at 10x for 10 laps with RH required. Just did a trial run with the 08 GTR. My initial try was 6RM/4RH with fuel but think 5/5 or even 6RH/4RM would be better. And you could very likely get away without refueling with short shifting + minor fuel mapping.

I do have an open lobby set up now if anyone wants to practice.

I've been doing some practice for this one (Spa in quick cars... ). The hard tyre is extremely competitive, to the point that you can undercut the car in front if you pit early and it's certainly not a race where you need to be on the mediums as long as possible. Two lobbies I've run, I've pitted on L4 into clean air and undercut the car ahead both times.

Fuel will be the one here, and it needs some management to get around the ten laps

 

[milehighmadd]

One of those two seems to regularly be involved in incidents of bad behaviour! Quick, no doubt, but I've seen him get abuse after many a race

I've been doing some practice for this one (Spa in quick cars... ). The hard tyre is extremely competitive, to the point that you can undercut the car in front if you pit early and it's certainly not a race where you need to be on the mediums as long as possible. Two lobbies I've run, I've pitted on L4 into clean air and undercut the car ahead both times.

Fuel will be the one here, and it needs some management to get around the ten laps

What's your take on doing front RH/read RM to knock out the hard tire requirement?

 

[Trone_Colby]

My experience in B rooms during the last round was to get out early and finish early. No reason to fuel burn, especially if you're confident in putting down a decent lap regardless. My best results last season where when I found space to run on my own without having to worry about others. In the A rooms this season, a slipstream qualifying lap is more necessary. I wouldn't have started top 5 last night without it.

Yes. B rooms are usually a waste of time fuel burning. Now if it’s long tracks like DTS or Spa, go for it. Just hope and pray that no one crashes out ahead and ruining your run. Shorts tracks like RBR or Brands, don’t do it unless you are very brave lol. I remember burning on Brands, I was going for my flying lap. After the turn when you first get into S2, someone went off track. Instead of taking it easy to re enter, he rushes it and knocks me off. He had already qualified on top of that. I was placed all the way in the back because of that.

 

[Ashthebash]

What's your take on doing front RH/read RM to knock out the hard tire requirement?

Pretty sure it doesn't allow you to do that now. Which I'm glad about because it was a practice I hated!

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

GT-R certainly had potential at Fuji except slipstream qualifying was a must. Put it near the front and I had a real shot.

So obviously for the first attempt, I was in the wrong spot in the train and got punished for it. One of my better performances but was for naught.



Second try... everyone disconnected except one person.

Final attempt, I gambled on solo qualifying given the room strength. That also did not work and worse, I helped the Lambo that started ahead of me. Proved impossible to pass which was a must if I wanted to win.



These two races are what I am believing is why slipstream is so strong. Even if there's a disparity of pace between a group of drivers, slipstream right now makes it difficult to pull away from one another. It's a way to create more racing which I find to be more acceptable in a casual race or dailies but I feel does not belong in FIA.

One last thing. For whatever reason, someone in my last race had some pit road glitch I haven't seen before. Basically, it's as though they had the longer pit road animation we used to have before a patch made them much shorter. Poor guy went from P3 to near the back.

 

[Pigems]

What's your take on doing front RH/read RM to knock out the hard tire requirement?

Pretty sure it doesn't allow you to do that now. Which I'm glad about because it was a practice I hated!

You can only do it now in races with no tire requirement. It was a great strat while it lasted though, got a bunch of wins using that when I first started doing FIA races.

What’s to hate about getting two birds stoned at once?

 

[milehighmadd]

What gear is best to fuel shave in with a Gr.2? And does TCS or BB help? Someone in a practice lobby got down to 60% before pitting (maybe lower... definitely shocking to see) but I got disconnected before being able to ask how the hell he did that.

 

[roamingbard13]

What gear is best to fuel shave in with a Gr.2? And does TCS or BB help? Someone in a practice lobby got down to 60% before pitting (maybe lower... definitely shocking to see) but I got disconnected before being able to ask how the hell he did that.

depends on the amount of time you have. I usually rev to the limit and apply the brakes in 2nd. On a shorter track, (like Maggiore center), I used 1st.

 

[LisaSalters42]

I'm struggling to find how long qualifying is for Nations on Saturday? Couldve sworn it was listed before and just can't find it in game or on the website.

Are the new qualifying rules in effect? Just trying to setup a lobby here

 

[watto79]

I'm struggling to find how long qualifying is for Nations on Saturday? Couldve sworn it was listed before and just can't find it in game or on the website.

Are the new qualifying rules in effect? Just trying to setup a lobby here

It's 6 minutes. I think the only place you can find it is here. No qualifying rules have changed recently but maybe in the next update.

https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/news/00_1497344.html

 

[milehighmadd]

I'm struggling to find how long qualifying is for Nations on Saturday? Couldve sworn it was listed before and just can't find it in game or on the website.

Are the new qualifying rules in effect? Just trying to setup a lobby here

6 minutes for qual

https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/news/00_1497344.html

 

[Pigems]

I'm struggling to find how long qualifying is for Nations on Saturday? Couldve sworn it was listed before and just can't find it in game or on the website.

Are the new qualifying rules in effect? Just trying to setup a lobby here

Here you go, this shows everything for every race this season.

 

[milehighmadd]

Got a lobby open again for Spa. REALLY like this combo. Gonna to see if fuel mapping sector 2 with minimal short shifting is better than other strategies. Wonder if a no-stop would be a decent way about it. Pit time is 14s and the difference between RH and RM for me at least seems to be about 1-1.5s/lap.

As for the guy who got 2.07 in practice qualifying, he was revving 2nd gear with brake at 50%.

 

[Veinz]

Gardens must be a no stop right?

 

[milehighmadd]

Gardens must be a no stop right?

89.7 miles / 143 km ... yeah, definitely no stop.

 

[Pigems]

Gardens must be a no stop right?

Probably will be for me in the 4C, not sure about other cars though.

 

[milehighmadd]

Probably will be for me in the 4C, not sure about other cars though.

Watched your Fuji stream ... amazed that Lamb got 3rd place in the 4C. Dude must have been laying thunder around the corners.

 

[Pigems]

Watched your Fuji stream ... amazed that Lamb got 3rd place in the 4C. Dude must have been laying thunder around the corners.

I don’t have a clue how he did it, I couldn’t get any pace out of it at Fuji at all. He ran a 33.0 in race, I was barely able to manage that in FP.

 

[roamingbard13]

I don’t mind short shifting for DTG since I’m not worried about my tires being burnt marshmallows three times during the race

 

[Ashthebash]

You can only do it now in races with no tire requirement. It was a great strat while it lasted though, got a bunch of wins using that when I first started doing FIA races.

What’s to hate about getting two birds stoned at once?

Yeah that's true, you can still do it if there's no tyre requirement. I did it a few times but what really put me off it was trying medium fronts and hard rears in the Lambo GT3, it was like going into a setup screen, finding the button that says "it will crash" and selecting it!

Got a lobby open again for Spa. REALLY like this combo. Gonna to see if fuel mapping sector 2 with minimal short shifting is better than other strategies. Wonder if a no-stop would be a decent way about it. Pit time is 14s and the difference between RH and RM for me at least seems to be about 1-1.5s/lap.

As for the guy who got 2.07 in practice qualifying, he was revving 2nd gear with brake at 50%.

Pit stops are more like 6-7s. Your out lap will recover a large chunk of what you lose on your in lap (you start at the pit exit so if your lap would usually be a 2:09, it'll show as more like 2:03). No stopping is an option but you would be very vulnerable to any chargers on mediums, as @VulcanSpirit almost did to me a couple of hours ago, pulling in over 6s in five laps - and my tyres were six laps old by the end, not ten.

There could be a few different strategies for this race that are competitive, usually makes for a good race

 

[SpeedStarGTS]

FIAGTC Stage 6 @ Monza The Cathedral of Speed *Every Mégane Trophy Drivers* "Well *****!!"

 

[Peddler13]

I just did some practice laps around Spa in a gr.2 car. Bested with a 2:16, easy 2:19's. A 2:03 is not even in range, even a sub 2:10 seems a long way off.
I am doing all my practice on Hards.
Should I persue more practice for this race or just forget about it? I would like to try it but I don't really want to get in the way.
PS: I am doing ok in the B daily races atm!

 

[milehighmadd]

Yeah that's true, you can still do it if there's no tyre requirement. I did it a few times but what really put me off it was trying medium fronts and hard rears in the Lambo GT3, it was like going into a setup screen, finding the button that says "it will crash" and selecting it!



Pit stops are more like 6-7s. Your out lap will recover a large chunk of what you lose on your in lap (you start at the pit exit so if your lap would usually be a 2:09, it'll show as more like 2:03). No stopping is an option but you would be very vulnerable to any chargers on mediums, as @VulcanSpirit almost did to me a couple of hours ago, pulling in over 6s in five laps - and my tyres were six laps old by the end, not ten.

There could be a few different strategies for this race that are competitive, usually makes for a good race

Yep. 1 stop for me was 10s faster. 6H/4M seems to yield the fastest times.

I just did some practice laps around Spa in a gr.2 car. Bested with a 2:16, easy 2:19's. A 2:03 is not even in range, even a sub 2:10 seems a long way off.
I am doing all my practice on Hards.
Should I persue more practice for this race or just forget about it? I would like to try it but I don't really want to get in the way.
PS: I am doing ok in the B daily races atm!

I have a lobby open for the Spa race if you want to join. Share tips and what not. Or just observe and spectate. Might help see where you can shave seconds off your lap time.

 

[chuyler1]

As for the guy who got 2.07 in practice qualifying, he was revving 2nd gear with brake at 50%.

Can you explain what this means? Is it a glitch or some sort of anti-lag trick?

 

[Peddler13]

I aim to be as consistent as this one day, but first I must learn how to save my replays. I go and hit save, it says they're available in my library but I can't find them

Edit : the Speedstar video

 

[Peddler13]

Yep. 1 stop for me was 10s faster. 6H/4M seems to yield the fastest times.


I have a lobby open for the Spa race if you want to join. Share tips and what not. Or just observe and spectate. Might help see where you can shave seconds off your lap time.

I can't find it

 

[milehighmadd]

I can't find it

Ooh... I have it set to DR B / SR S. Not sure if you are that level. Sorry.

But if you search for track "Spa", car type "Gr.2", you should see it. Called "FIA Nations Rd 8".

 

[roamingbard13]

Can you explain what this means? Is it a glitch or some sort of anti-lag trick?

Nah. He's talking about fuel burning to lighten the car for your flying lap. revving it the line and applying 30-40% brakes seems to do a good job of burning fuel off on the out lap. With the high multipliers, you can sometimes burn half a tank, and that'll save half second or more on your flying lap.