FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[SpecMiata-JSW]

Manufacture race: What is it about people who fell they have to race you during Qualifying??? It's absolutely STUPID. It not only kills your time but don't they understand it kills theirs also. I was on pace to Qual 3rd in a CS room, then bonzi at turn 2. Ended up 11th and finished 3rd. Took my points, one and done. The penalty systems is....well i'm going out and beat my dead horse.

Good afternoon! In lower lobbies it helps to build a huge gap to the field so you can run clean laps. You might lose a lap of qualifying, but you'll have uninterrupted laps without dive bombs. As you grow your DR everyone will be faster and more aware in qualifying so this won't be necessary.

Good luck!

 

[GT_Alex74]

That rule had been pointed out already soon after it came out. Why the aliens keep try harding, no idea. I'm limiting my hours but I do want to perform well in case they do give out something else.

Until now it was specific to the Supra Cup though. They literally updated the rules for Nations and Manufacturers following today's maintenance. I mean, everyone was pretty much convinced there would be nothing happening in 2020, but even after the Sony video thing, some people related to PoDi tried to make us think there was still going to be stuff happening at the end of the year. But since World Tours were always mentionned as a prize, this is now cold, hard, undeniable fact stated in the most official document you can have related to the FIA GTC.

 

[Groundfish]

From now on I qual on my own away from everyone.
Last night I made the mistake of not doing that, never again.

 

[Pigems]

From now on I qual on my own away from everyone.
Last night I made the mistake of not doing that, never again.

I’ll only follow someone if I know and trust them. But I usually just do my own Qually most times, I’m terrible at judging how close to get/be behind someone to start the lap.

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

I’ll only follow someone if I know and trust them. But I usually just do my own Qually most times, I’m terrible at judging how close to get/be behind someone to start the lap.

I don't like being in Top Split because I'm generally no where near their pace, the one silver lining is that you can follow most every driver in those qualifying sessions and not worry about them wrecking or catching up to them. My only fear is having an alien behind me and I ruin their qualifying lap.

 

[Groundfish]

I’ll only follow someone if I know and trust them. But I usually just do my own Qually most times, I’m terrible at judging how close to get/be behind someone to start the lap.

Last night ahead was fine no problem, I spaced out, but guy behind was too close starting my first flier. I had a decent lap going and wanted to bank it, so didn’t push on entry to corkscrew, coming through that left sweeper after that he was close enough and dove into the side of my car on the right hander.
Letting him have it the hairpin was just an automatic reaction.
I didn’t put up a qual and started last.
In race he spun out on entry to corkscrew with me behind lap 17. Lmao

 

[milehighmadd]

So my free practice time for the Gr.4 race at Tokyo south is 2:05.841, is that any good?

For free practice Q:
S - sub 203 to mid 203
A - mid/low 204
B - mid/low 205

For race conditions Q:
S - high 203/low 204
A - mid/high 204
B - high 205/low 206

 

[Pigems]

I don't like being in Top Split because I'm generally no where near their pace, the one silver lining is that you can follow most every driver in those qualifying sessions and not worry about them wrecking or catching up to them. My only fear is having an alien behind me and I ruin their qualifying lap.

Agreed on both points!

2nd split is much more fun/competitive for me too. It’s nice to get a chance to race with the aliens once in a while, but too much and it becomes a little discouraging.

 

[Jim Skinner]

Good afternoon! In lower lobbies it helps to build a huge gap to the field so you can run clean laps. You might lose a lap of qualifying, but you'll have uninterrupted laps without dive bombs. As you grow your DR everyone will be faster and more aware in qualifying so this won't be necessary.

Good luck!

I fully understand the wait for a gap process. However it seams like there are those that just don't want you to lay down a good lap. This was also mentioned above. I've seen guys pull over and as soon as you go by they rip out and take after you. Just doesn't make since.

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

I fully understand the wait for a gap process. However it seams like there are those that just don't want you to lay down a good lap. This was also mentioned above. I've seen guys pull over and as soon as you go by they rip out and take after you. Just doesn't make since.

Unfortunately, sometimes we race with children and immature adults. I don't get it either.

 

[SmokeyMR2]

Ah ok, thanks. Maybe they’re just farming DR then, trying to get to the new cap. FIA races are the best way to gain DR if you can do well in them, unless you live in EU.

I think that is only reason some of the top drivers are going at it strong still is the raised Dr cap. I guess getting to 100K Dr is this years "Grand Prize". I don't blame PD, at a time like this not winning prizes in eSport seems a very small issue (although I would never get to a WT anyway so doesn't affect me)

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Agreed on both points!

2nd split is much more fun/competitive for me too. It’s nice to get a chance to race with the aliens once in a while, but too much and it becomes a little discouraging.

I can't wait to go back to 2nd split haha. Kinda weird to say that. Whenever I (rarely) race on FIA races, I get put on top split and feel slow as heck. It's been a bit discouraging, so I get frustrated and then make my own pace even worse.

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

I can't wait to go back to 2nd split haha. Kinda weird to say that. Whenever I (rarely) race on FIA races, I get put on top split and feel slow as heck. It's been a bit discouraging, so I get frustrated and then make my own pace even worse.

You described me.....LOL! That is why I really enjoy racing Nations since the top split is typically like Split 1.5 and if I qualify well I can fight for top 5. I will never intentionally tank my DR to fall into 2nd split and I'm in the strange place of doing decent enough in top split to continue staying there. It's strange, but where I land.

 

[MIE1992]

For free practice Q:
S - sub 203 to mid 203
A - mid/low 204
B - mid/low 205

For race conditions Q:
S - high 203/low 204
A - mid/high 204
B - high 205/low 206

You think I could do that even in the Hyundai? Maybe I’ll keep practicing.

For Manu, you might be able to squeeze 11 laps (essentially 10.75 considering where the pits is) but with 2 mega long straights, fuel saving will likely just kill your chances of maintaining pace.

Pit loss is about 20s with changing tires + refuel. If you can FM to the point of not losing >1.5s off pace, then a 0-stop would benefit you but that seems rather improbable.

So what do you think would be the realistic option? I’m thinking of going on Mediums as long as I can with FM1, then just change to Softs when I pit for fuel. Would the Nations Cup race be similar, in that regard?

 

[milehighmadd]

You think I could do that even in the Hyundai? Maybe I’ll keep practicing.



So what do you think would be the realistic option? I’m thinking of going on Mediums as long as I can with FM1, then just change to Softs when I pit for fuel. Would the Nations Cup race be similar, in that regard?

I saw a practice race with some top EMEA drivers and the 1 guy who tried a 0-stop finished 60s from P1.

 

[MIE1992]

I saw a practice race with some top EMEA drivers and the 1 guy who tried a 0-stop finished 60s from P1.

Right. But I'm wondering if maybe I should pick between softs/mediums depending on whether I'm in the top half or bottom half of the field, and then go on them until I need to refuel (or in the case of starting of softs, until they start to give). Does that sounds like a legit strategy?

And what about the Nations Cup? Do you think a similar strategy to the above would work?

 

[milehighmadd]

Right. But I'm wondering if maybe I should pick between softs/mediums depending on whether I'm in the top half or bottom half of the field, and then go on them until I need to refuel (or in the case of starting of softs, until they start to give). Does that sounds like a legit strategy?

And what about the Nations Cup? Do you think a similar strategy to the above would work?

Not sure exactly what you're asking but I'd say go on softs for as long as you still have good lap times. IIRC, the last 4 laps of race on fresh mediums (that I did) were as strong as my best soft lap. I saw people pit after L6 ... some went on softs until L10 ... all depends. When to pit could be very important too on how to avoid traffic.

You could probably start on mediums and pit between L4 and L5 and take the softs out for the final 7.25 laps with less fuel than people starting race on softs + full tank.

 

[KosmoKazi]

I don't like being in Top Split because I'm generally no where near their pace, the one silver lining is that you can follow most every driver in those qualifying sessions and not worry about them wrecking or catching up to them. My only fear is having an alien behind me and I ruin their qualifying lap.

How can you tell what the “top split” is? The points awarded to winner? I did notice the little wreath icon is available before a race, that informs you of the bounty for that race. Is that what you mean?

 

[pantherjag]

Iv just noticed that BOP is now on for the one make Lambo race.

That's a bit of a shame as car felt really good in its "stock" form.

Also a bit annoying since my video is based on the "stock" settings

 

[vvise]

How can you tell what the “top split” is? The points awarded to winner? I did notice the little wreath icon is available before a race, that informs you of the bounty for that race. Is that what you mean?

You can usually recognize the names of the drivers that you know have the highest DR score in the region. The points awarded are a good indicator as well.

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

How can you tell what the “top split” is? The points awarded to winner? I did notice the little wreath icon is available before a race, that informs you of the bounty for that race. Is that what you mean?

Yep, what @vvise said earlier. You can usually tell the first two splits based on driver names and points, then it gets muddy after that. I forget which icon tells you the points, I think it looks like a trophy and it's next to settings. 👍

 

[TeddyWestside]

things have been looking up for me lately. There, that's jinxed it!

Manu, Round 4, Laguna Seca

EMEA

Slot 2:

Having been disconnected from Slot one before matchmaking...

Highlights (8 minutes):

Spoiler: Summary & result

P16 start (Door 13). Starting on Ms had me up to P3 by Lap 7, though a hard 'tap' by a Spanish Porsche dropped me into the gravel and down a place the following lap. Pitted for H tyres and rejoined in P13. Pitted again (still P13) on Lap 9 for Softs and fuel, leaving in P17. P12 on Lap 13 and had to work hard to keep another Spanish Porsche behind me for the last 2 laps until it made a mistake, leaving me to finish in a promoted P9.

Slot 4:

Highlights (7 minutes):

Spoiler: Summary & result

P15 (Door 18) and starting on Hards this time. Pitted from P12 at the end of the lap to switch to Ms,and forgot to cancel refuelling!!! So I rejoined in P18 with full tanks, knowing I'd have to fuel again at the final stop. Came back in for Softs and fuel on Lap 10 and was P14 on Lap 12 until punted of by a Russian in a VW:censored: P18 promoted to P15 on the line, for 31 pts. And the Russian VW? Crossed the line in P15 but demoted to P19 with a tyre penalty! So he ruined my race with no chance of finishing well himself.

Wholly unimpressed by this Russia mobster, and even more so by the fact the only penalty seems to be for the final contact (or even more likely, cutting the corner when hitting me broadside), and not for being 100% over the white line before entering the Corkscrew, which might have discouraged his misconduct:


Slot 6:

This was a doozy!

Highlights (15 minutes):

Spoiler: Summary & result

Starting in P15, neither I or my opponent (@szopen16 from Poland) in the closing stages had any idea we were fighting for 3rd place, both of us thinking were were P10 or lower. We were so busy concentrating on our battle that we hadn't looked at our HUDs! He was very complimentary towards me after the race (I may have another fan!), in chat and DM, and I have recommended he join GT Planet. Oh yes, P3 and 64 pts.

 

[MIE1992]

Not sure exactly what you're asking but I'd say go on softs for as long as you still have good lap times. IIRC, the last 4 laps of race on fresh mediums (that I did) were as strong as my best soft lap. I saw people pit after L6 ... some went on softs until L10 ... all depends. When to pit could be very important too on how to avoid traffic.

You could probably start on mediums and pit between L4 and L5 and take the softs out for the final 7.25 laps with less fuel than people starting race on softs + full tank.

Sounds good. What about the Nations Cup? I’d imagine it’d be somewhat similar - start on Hards, and if I need to pit for fuel, change onto Mediums then so I can use the Mediums with less fuel.

 

[jimihemmy]

Race Report 1:
Had a bad qualifying session, started dead last in 20. Kept it clean and avoided incidents. Made up places, to have a three way battle for 10/11/12th spot. All three of us swapped position for the last 6 laps, I ended up 12th.

Nations Race:

I decided to use the TC for this race. I was 1 of 17 TC's (the other 3 were Dino's). I qualified 16th and was prepared to finish 20th since I knew there was an idiot on the track. He was driving a Dino and was purposely running into people during qualifying. I had battled him during qualifying also but I always seem to race better than qualify.

Of course, the idiot is pushing his way through the field and we meet up. I spend a couple of laps chasing him along with another driver who seems intent on getting him too. We bumped a few times because we were both trying to take him out but not enough to ruin each others race. After a while, it seemed we could tell that we had the same goal and worked together to finally dispatch the idiot.

We exchange spots a few times over the next few laps until another driver catches up to us and joins the fun. That driver was @deviln3. For the next 6 laps, all three of us swap spots while still driving clean. There was some incidental bumping but nothing malicious. I happen to gain the lead coming up on the final corner of the penultimate lap. I was able to hold them off and came in in 10th with @deviln3 coming in at 12. It was a great race once we got going.

It was great to race with you @deviln3!

Manufactuers:

First Manufacturers race at Laguna, a track I’ve not raced at before. Qualifying: some wise guy pushes me aside on warm up lap (I’m at a good distance behind first couple of guys out, at 9/10 pace) then sets pole lap, only to then stay ahead of me, but as he sees me on a flyer behind him: slows in the last turn then to a crawl on the exit, right on the outside curb, deliberately to impede my lap. What a jerk. He immediately apologized in the warm up screen. Yeah, about as sincere as Schumacher after parking it in Rascasse, right? So mad I forgot to swap for M’s before the race, fouling up my strategy as well as my starting position. Oh well. Start 9th, deal with some other idiots mid pack as usual, including the usual ingrate that makes a mistake, allowing you to pass, only to assume he’s entitled to run you off next turn in order to retake his spot, as though he was entitled to it regardless of his own mistake. “One of those races”

I did not have high hopes for this race either because I can never qualify well at Laguna Seca. Sure to form, I qualify 14th. I had done some practice laps here but I always feel slow around this track. I did not battle them much but both @KosmoKazi and @tspottr723 are in the race. They both finish ahead of me as I finished where I started. It was an uneventful race all told.

Oh well....time to practice for this weekend.

 

[Razgriz2118]

Well, I decided to only race two of the Manufacturer's Races last night to save my eyes, and also, oddly enough, I'm starting to feel a little tired of these races, which I really didn't expect... It's probably from practicing so much and using so much time, because even though I know I'm not going to be anywhere near the top, I still want to do my best, is anyone else like this?

Anyways, the first race, I was ranked 14th in the lobby, and everyone in qualifying must've had a bad lap because I got pole position. I started on the Softs and for the first three laps I was defending hard but eventually an error I made let 2nd and 3rd slip by. 4th and 5th also eventually got by, and then I got shunted by 6th, who then went off track and spun themselves out. After that it was a relatively uneventful race until the end since I couldn't close the gap to the top 5. I pit for Hards on lap 8 and came out in clean air, and then pit the next lap for Mediums and fuel to carry me til the end of the race. I was in 5th in the final stint behind another Cayman driver, and I was catching up. On the last lap at the Corkscrew, I was very close behind him, but he braked earlier than I expected, so I ended up ramming him. Luckily, he carried on and I recovered. I looked at the timing and saw 6th place was behind by 3 seconds... only to feel a tap and realize that he was actually right next to me and I was shoving him narrow at T9, to which he returned the favor and shoved me wide on the corner exit. So, I finished 6th, which I was happy about since I was ranked 14th.

I went again and was ranked 10th this time. I qualified about 0.5s slower this time and qualified in 10th place. I started on the Mediums and had a couple of battles with 9th, passing him and gaining some time. I wasn't able to close the gap to the top 9 but I also was able to open up a gap to the people behind me. I pit on lap 7 for Hards and again luckily came out in clean air ahead of a group. I then pit on lap 8 for Softs and some fuel. After this, all of my overtakes were from people pitting, until the last few laps where I found myself in 5th and 3rd and 4th were battling. I could've gotten 4th, maybe even 3rd, if I stayed cool, but being so close behind them in their draft and dirty air caused me to make some mistakes on braking, causing me to go wide multiple times. Still though, I got my highest point result, so I was satisfied.

How do people here prepare for the Saturday races since it's two different races on the same day? Just practice twice as much?

 

[szopen16]

things have been looking up for me lately. There, that's jinxed it!

Manu, Round 4, Laguna Seca

EMEA

Slot 2:

Having been disconnected from Slot one before matchmaking...

Highlights (8 minutes):

Spoiler: Summary & result

P16 start (Door 13). Starting on Ms had me up to P3 by Lap 7, though a hard 'tap' by a Spanish Porsche dropped me into the gravel and down a place the following lap. Pitted for H tyres and rejoined in P13. Pitted again (still P13) on Lap 9 for Softs and fuel, leaving in P17. P12 on Lap 13 and had to work hard to keep another Spanish Porsche behind me for the last 2 laps until it made a mistake, leaving me to finish in a promoted P9.

Slot 4:

Highlights (7 minutes):

Spoiler: Summary & result

P15 (Door 18) and starting on Hards this time. Pitted from P12 at the end of the lap to switch to Ms,and forgot to cancel refuelling!!! So I rejoined in P18 with full tanks, knowing I'd have to fuel again at the final stop. Came back in for Softs and fuel on Lap 10 and was P14 on Lap 12 until punted of by a Russian in a VW:censored: P18 promoted to P15 on the line, for 31 pts. And the Russian VW? Crossed the line in P15 but demoted to P19 with a tyre penalty! So he ruined my race with no chance of finishing well himself.

Wholly unimpressed by this Russia mobster, and even more so by the fact the only penalty seems to be for the final contact (or even more likely, cutting the corner when hitting me broadside), and not for being 100% over the white line before entering the Corkscrew, which might have discouraged his misconduct:


Slot 6:

This was a doozy!

Highlights (15 minutes):

Spoiler: Summary & result

Starting in P15, neither I or my opponent (@szopen16 from Poland) in the closing stages had any idea we were fighting for 3rd place, both of us thinking were were P10 or lower. We were so busy concentrating on our battle that we hadn't looked at our HUDs! He was very complimentary towards me after the race (I may have another fan!), in chat and DM, and I have recommended he join GT Planet. Oh yes, P3 and 64 pts.

hello there, here am I after your message! thank you! I still cant believe in that race

 

[TeddyWestside]

North America

Slot 2:

Highlights (9 minutes):

Spoiler: Summary & result

Started P14 on Mediums and, as with the Nissan, had BB set fully to the rear to ease front tyre wear. Had a bizarre spin entering the Corkscrew for the first time, even considering cold tyres, and spoiled my race start. Found myself 11th or 12th for much of the first third of the race, then up to P2 by half distance, rejoining in P10 after pitting for fuel and tyres. Back down to P17 of 18 after my 2nd stop on Lap 9, I clawed my way back to P11 at the finish, for a respectable 54 pts.

Slot 3:

Highlights (8 minutes):

Spoiler: Summary & result

P13 (Door 1) start, dumping the H tyres after the first lap dropped me to P19. I was back up the rankingsto P12 by the halfway mark but the car was handling really badly. However, I was up to P6 by Lap 9 when a familiar name launched me into the gravel at the top of the Cokscrew. He apologised after being challenged about it, but when I said, "Ok, but it screwed up my race", he replied "Mine too", which made no sense as he a) gained a place, b) received no damage, c) got no penalty. In other words, he lost nothing at all

I, on the other hand, lost 4 place, a tonne of track position and ended up getting a 1s penalty for some reason! I just clung onto P8 after a strong and fun challenge from a fellow Porsche driver who enjoyed the battle too, in chat. 64 pts. Still not my best score of the season, so time to go again...

Slot 4:

In a higher ranked lobby than the first two, I was greeted before the race by fellow GT Planateer @TPC_GStone (don't know who you post as on here), recognising my username.
He started in 9th, I was P14.

Highlights (9 minutes):

Spoiler: Summary & result

The appropriately-named P2 driver, who always seems to live up (or down) to his name when we're in the same race, ended up behind me as I crested the Corkscrew for the first time. Exiting the pits in P19 after dumping the Hards for Mediums, I was up to P10 by Lap 7, and P6 the following lap. I pitted from P4 on Lap 10 for my Softs and fuel, exiting in P8. I passed a struggling Alfa for P6 on Lap 13, and despite having to serve a 0.5s Corkscrew limits penalty on Lap 14, crossed the line in P5, one place behind TPC_GStone, for 78 pts and a CRB!

Highest ever score on my alt account (and 2 lower than my best Nations score) and already only 3 points off last season's total if you add up my top 3 scores so far.

I'll definitely be passing on the Man races this weekend. I've no desire to see my DR and SR drop in a Tokyo race, especially with all the new lockdown players adding to the carnage!

 

[TeddyWestside]

hello there, here am I after your message! thank you! I still cant believe in that race

Hey! Welcome buddy. Enjoy your time at GT Planet. As I said, you'll learn a lot from better drivers than me here. Make sure you read the FAQs and Acceptable Use rules links at the bottom of the page.

Do I get a recruiting bonus?

 

[Pigems]

Sounds good. What about the Nations Cup? I’d imagine it’d be somewhat similar - start on Hards, and if I need to pit for fuel, change onto Mediums then so I can use the Mediums with less fuel.

In most cases, you want to used the softest tire for as many laps as you can. So if you figure out how many laps you can get out of the softest tires, you can then figure out how many laps you’ll do on the remaining tires.

 

[Razgriz2118]

Ran a practice race in the Manufacturer's Cup earlier this evening, when revving the engine out fully in the Cayman I had around 8.5 laps of fuel, when attempting to fuel save (shifting at 50-75% full RPM bar) and only revving the engine out if I'm trying to overtake or defend (which ended up being a lot), I really didn't end up saving a significant amount, only around 9.1 laps of fuel. Given the pit time is so short though, I'm not sure if more saving is justifiable or not (tire change+43% additional fuel was an 18.639 second pit time). With my noobish driving, I was able to make the Softs last for 8 laps before they really degraded to where the Mediums were a better choice, so I'll probably run 8 laps Soft/ 4 laps Medium. Slipstream is powerful as always though, so don't lose that tow.

This is also probably obvious to the experienced drivers here, but for noobs like me, something I noticed in qualifying is that, for the last flying qualifying lap, you can dive into the pits and get a fresh set of soft tires because the pit lane is located way behind the starting line. I'm not sure if that's a good strategy though because of colder tires, but hopefully someone with more knowledge can comment on that.