FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Ashthebash]

It’s a full second slower per lap then the TT/RCZ, and the tires don’t last longer enough to make up for it. I can still get 10-12 or so laps out of the TT before starting to lose more than 1s a lap.

Depends on the times I guess. Compared to the lobby, I matched the times of the leader by L5 ish and was then quicker for the rest of the stint. Driving the car to run 13-14 laps my times were all within 0.2-0.3s of each other with fuel depletion balancing out tyre wear

 

[Pigems]

Depends on the times I guess. Compared to the lobby, I matched the times of the leader by L5 ish and was then quicker for the rest of the stint. Driving the car to run 13-14 laps my times were all within 0.2-0.3s of each other with fuel depletion balancing out tyre wear

Interesting. Try the Citroen, it’s .5 per lap faster and just as good on tires. I’m planning to give it a go here shortly, I’ll report back with my findings.

 

[alx42]

Well for tomorrow's Nations I'm staying away from all those sacrilegious FF cars and taking my Merc for a spin. And after spying on a lobby full of Peugeots then having a one hour test myself, I quite fancy my chances!

Great choice. You can keep up with the FF cars with the Merc. If anyone is curious, I have an entire video on this.

 

[05XR8]

I'm still going RC F for Nations. I got booted out of the top 10 by a Mustang that was .2s faster. Only improved my final time by .005s.

Me myself, I'm too tight in the downhill esses and the transition to the right at the final corner. Still not confident on that right-hand kerb. The car do any do anything funny, but my mind is telling me, 'Remember all those kerbs you bounce off and spin? Watch out!'.

 

[GTWolverine]

I'm gonna give a Corvette a go since it's been given a new lease on life following the last BoP update. If it's not up to the task, I'm sure I have several Audi TT prize cars collecting dust in my garage...

 

[Ashthebash]

Interesting. Try the Citroen, it’s .5 per lap faster and just as good on tires. I’m planning to give it a go here shortly, I’ll report back with my findings.

Doubt I'll get time! I need to see what my qualifying time can get down to and need to just mess around a little to see if I can do the race without adding a splash of fuel.
But to be nosey, when you make the switch to hards on low fuel how do your times compare to your fastest laps on mediums earlier in the race?

Great choice. You can keep up with the FF cars with the Merc. If anyone is curious, I have an entire video on this.

Main reason I'm going with the Merc is it's my Manufacturers car and I want to really get used to it, but it is a good all rounder. I know the Audi and Peugeot will fancy me for breakfast down the main straight but once we get kind of half way into the race it should start to swing in my favour. Might need a bold move or two on the brakes to get by though!

 

[Pigems]

Doubt I'll get time! I need to see what my qualifying time can get down to and need to just mess around a little to see if I can do it without adding a splash of fuel.
But to be nosey, when you make the switch to hards on low fuel how do your times compare to your fastest laps on mediums earlier in the race?


Main reason I'm going with the Merc is it's my Manufacturers car and I want to really get used to it, but it is a good all rounder. I know the Audi and Peugeot will fancy me for breakfast down the main straight but once we get kind of half way into the race it should start to swing in my favour. Might need a bold move or two on the brakes to get by though!

In the TT last night I think I set my FL on lap 14 with Hards, that was on the 1 stop run. Around 47.5’ish, still 2s off my FP time.


Edit: Nations practice lobby open for anyone interested.

 

[Ashthebash]

In the TT last night I think I set my FL on lap 14 with Hards, that was on the 1 stop run. Around 47.5’ish, still 2s off my FP time.


Edit: Nations practice lobby open for anyone interested.

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Popped my head in for a bit and you looked pretty handy in that Citroen. Went off and did a 13 lap stint in the Merc, fastest of 47.6 on L9 and L13 was 48.1. Think we're usually pretty similar in terms of lap times so the Merc might be quite competitive over a race distance, although single lap pace is wanting somewhat

 

[Pigems]

Popped my head in for a bit and you looked pretty handy in that Citroen. Went off and did a 13 lap stint in the Merc, fastest of 47.6 on L9 and L13 was 48.1. Think we're usually pretty similar in terms of lap times so the Merc might be quite competitive over a race distance, although single lap pace is wanting somewhat

Thanks for popping in! That was my first time driving it, I really like it actually, it seems to suit the track really well. I was getting better times with it than the Merc, I definitely suggest giving it a try at least. I was able to pull off a 14m/1h with it, about 4/5s faster than both my 1 and 2 stop TT times, which were within a second of each other.

 

[05XR8]

I'm gonna give a Corvette a go since it's been given a new lease on life following the last BoP update. If it's not up to the task, I'm sure I have several Audi TT prize cars collecting dust in my garage...

In a Daily at the reverse track, a Viper was hanging on AHEAD of a TT down the straights. I was in a Supra at the time. Really surprised it had that speed.

In my FP with a TT ghost. It took the ghost a good while from exit of T1 to just exiting the tunnel, to get alongside. From there, it brakes earlier to navigate the COMI. I gap it because I don't tap the brakes(just drop a gear). However, it does catch back up as I'm not in the powerband.

For the braking at the hairpin, before the hill, I have a stronger exit and again, the TT takes awhile to catch up. It gets me on the transition from left to right heading down the esses and back up. It pulls away from there and again at the final corner.

I'm going to qualify and start on the fast tyre. I want to see if the RC F can get it in.

 

[GTWolverine]

I'm going with the RCZ. It was about 0.6s faster than the 'Vette after just 1 flying lap, while it took me at least 30 mins with the 'Vette to set my quickest time with it. The Pug was also 0.2s faster than the TT. Also, is the pit delta during actual races as short as it is in practice? I clocked roughly 5s lost for a pitstop in practice.

 

[Peddler13]

Main reason I'm going with the Merc is it's my Manufacturers car and I want to really get used to it

This is why I am going with a Corvette. It is very hard to drive consistently. My best is a 1:51 but I can only do low 50's every few laps. I have driven the Audi (400 kg's lighter) and am very concerned mainly about entering the bus stop chicane. The Audi can enter the chicane with just a lift of the throttle while I can't get the big heavy Corvette in without braking and dropping a gear. I am thinking of skipping this round because I know that there will be pile ups here. I have done many races on this track and it happens all the time. It is almost impossible to race with cars nearly 500 kg's lighter (in the case of the GTR) on the same track.

 

[Ashthebash]

Thanks for popping in! That was my first time driving it, I really like it actually, it seems to suit the track really well. I was getting better times with it than the Merc, I definitely suggest giving it a try at least. I was able to pull off a 14m/1h with it, about 4/5s faster than both my 1 and 2 stop TT times, which were within a second of each other.

Always happy to do a spot of spying!

4-5s is a pretty big difference! Now you get the dilemma, quicker car in qualy or faster race car at the probable expense of grid position and being a target for a few laps??!

. Also, is the pit delta during actual races as short as it is in practice? I clocked roughly 5s lost for a pitstop in practice.

Think it's about 8, definitely around 8s going the 'proper' way round so would expect it to be similar

 

[05XR8]

I think what helps the pit lane at DTS II, it's a braking zone when leaving. So, shouldn't be too far off anyone passing pit straight.

 

[Razgriz2118]

Didn't have much time to practice, so I'm not sure which car to choose. The only one I was able to take a full race-length in was the TT, and although I enjoy how it drives (maybe driving power-oriented FWD cars in real life has made me more accustomed to it), the tire wear kills me when the Mediums drop off. I tried the Cayman and the Citroen, and although I could lap faster in the Cayman by a couple tenths than the Citroen, it's worse at fuel. The Citroen requires more fuel saving than the TT does, but it's much better on the tires and I don't believe I was too far off in pace.

Help me decide lol.

 

[barak181]

Didn't have much time to practice, so I'm not sure which car to choose. The only one I was able to take a full race-length in was the TT, and although I enjoy how it drives (maybe driving power-oriented FWD cars in real life has made me more accustomed to it), the tire wear kills me when the Mediums drop off. I tried the Cayman and the Citroen, and although I could lap faster in the Cayman by a couple tenths than the Citroen, it's worse at fuel. The Citroen requires more fuel saving than the TT does, but it's much better on the tires and I don't believe I was too far off in pace.

Help me decide lol.

Sambabus.

Edit: But, okay. It's sounding like you want somebody to tell you that it's okay to choose the Citroen. It's okay to choose the Citroen.

 

[bigbeefytaco]

Sambabus.

Edit: But, okay. It's sounding like you want somebody to tell you that it's okay to choose the Citroen.

F-150

 

[05XR8]

4C. I read that thing is amaze-balls!

 

[05XR8]

4C. I read that thing is amaze-balls!

Edit: Well well well

No tow and I set that lap on Lap 4. Was going quicker each lap as tyres wore. A Megane ahead had the CIMU and speed in the straight, but I was catching in braking zones. Good time by the Viper.

 

[LVS_1986]

Morning! Anybody tested Toyota 86 for todays Nations? If I remember correctly there was a combo on Dragon Trail in gr4 in exhibition series, and then 86 was good choice. Got 2nd place in it. That was before BoP update, so is it reasonable to choose it today?

 

[05XR8]

Morning! Anybody tested Toyota 86 for todays Nations? If I remember correctly there was a combo on Dragon Trail in gr4 in exhibition series, and then 86 was good choice. Got 2nd place in it. That was before BoP update, so is it reasonable to choose it today?

Here's your answer for a good allrounder.

The Viper was actually fast out of corners and in a straight line. So, I'll give it that. P1 lost by pitting one lap earlier and it was at 31%(I had 42% at that point). I went one lap more. Was it always this frugal? Been so long since I used one in a fuel race.

Came out, I had a 3s lead over the RCZ that finished 5th(it started 8th on RM). It pit around lap 11.
Edit: My mistake. Watched the replay. The 3rd place RCZ briefly got ahead if the Viper.

The RCZ that finished 3rd, had a sneak up the inside of me around Lap3. Us three already pulled away, but I guess that player didn't want to build more of a gap.
It got a .5s and I made my way past before we completed the lap. From there, it was about keeping with the Viper.

I was flatout, no conserving. Steady 1:48s all race. Just a comfortable comfortable car. No stress. Stable like the GT3 car. 👍

One more thing. I went my own pace. I tapped the brakes for the chicane every lap. Didn't trust the computer in an FIA race.

 

[LVS_1986]

Here's your answer for a good allrounder.
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The Viper was actually fast out of corners and in a straight line. So, I'll give it that. P1 lost by pitting one lap earlier and it was at 31%(I had 42% at that point). I went one lap more. Was it always this frugal? Been so long since I used one in a fuel race.

Came out, I had a 3s lead over the RCZ that finished 5th(it started 8th on RM). It pit around lap 11.
Edit: My mistake. Watched the replay. The 3rd place RCZ briefly got ahead if the Viper.

The RCZ that finished 3rd, had a sneak up the inside of me around Lap3. Us three already pulled away, but I guess that player didn't want to build more of a gap.
It got a .5s and I made my way past before we completed the lap. From there, it was about keeping with the Viper.

I was flatout, no conserving. Steady 1:48s all race. Just a comfortable comfortable car. No stress. Stable like the GT3 car. 👍

One more thing. I went my own pace. I tapped the brakes for the chicane every lap. Didn't trust the computer in an FIA race.

Congratulations! And thanks for your recomendation. So today I give it a try. Lexus is strong in gr2 gr3 and gr4

 

[Ashthebash]

Here's your answer for a good allrounder.
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The Viper was actually fast out of corners and in a straight line. So, I'll give it that. P1 lost by pitting one lap earlier and it was at 31%(I had 42% at that point). I went one lap more. Was it always this frugal? Been so long since I used one in a fuel race.

Came out, I had a 3s lead over the RCZ that finished 5th(it started 8th on RM). It pit around lap 11.
Edit: My mistake. Watched the replay. The 3rd place RCZ briefly got ahead if the Viper.

The RCZ that finished 3rd, had a sneak up the inside of me around Lap3. Us three already pulled away, but I guess that player didn't want to build more of a gap.
It got a .5s and I made my way past before we completed the lap. From there, it was about keeping with the Viper.

I was flatout, no conserving. Steady 1:48s all race. Just a comfortable comfortable car. No stress. Stable like the GT3 car. 👍

One more thing. I went my own pace. I tapped the brakes for the chicane every lap. Didn't trust the computer in an FIA race.

NINE seconds?! Did you get out and wave the chequered flag for the rest of the field? . Well done!

It will be interesting to see how all the FF cars get on through the day. They're undoubtedly very quick, I just get the feeling they'll be hanging on for grim death towards the end of races

 

[Redneckchef]

Going to be interesting. Made it home in time for my FIA slot, but only 1 minute to get in. No practice laps, nothing. Could go any which way so here's hoping the practice from all the dailies last week helps.

No help. Lines are rusty. Starting DFL by a good second.

 

[Peddler13]

I don't know what I was all worried about. Qualified 16th on hards, kept nice and consistent and well away from trouble (especially on lap 1) and scored a nice 14th which could have been an easy 11th if my fingers going to sleep thing hadn't set in 2 laps from the end.

 

[05XR8]

NINE seconds?! Did you get out and wave the chequered flag for the rest of the field? . Well done!

It will be interesting to see how all the FF cars get on through the day. They're undoubtedly very quick, I just get the feeling they'll be hanging on for grim death towards the end of races

That's partially true. The RCZ couldn't reel us in once it served that penalty. It pit same time as the Viper.

You can get plenty laps in qualifying. Remember, no fuel drop. So, that showed me how good the tyres would hang on.
As we all know, results also depend on who you're racing with.

 

[Redneckchef]

So I took out the RC-F for my nations, having only gotten home in time to log on and just get into the lobby. Door 17 in an A ranked room.

Not a single practice lap. In warm up I go out on hards abort to make sure I have mediums on. Crash on both attempts through the chicane.

Qualify p19 of 19, a full 1.2 behind p18. Door 17 so not too bad. Start on Hards amd keep up with pack, bobble final chicane both laps but keep making it back elsewhere. Then I notice I will need fuel. Had not planned for this so go to end of lap 4. Come out 6 seconds behind the field. Just push and practice lapping. 2 people dropout after crashing and me passing them. 1 guy I pass in the pits. 1 ahead has damage so I am catching him on the straight to the esses. As I go to pass he swerves to block, but I manage to brake and avoid, get another run in the esses and he puts me off.

Guy behind catches him and as we round the next corner I see him punt that guy wide too. . . . Then he pits. just lapped it out from there got faster and more consistent even with tire wear. Came home p15 anyway for 71 points. Not enough to add to my score, but only by a couple. Pleasantly surprised with the race. Went well. Even 🤬 didnt really screw it up as I would have still really needed a miracle to catch p14 as I was just too slow.

Good luck out there all

 

[Rangeraus]

Qualifying is still a slipstream fest, worth up to a second per lap here.

So, if you miss out on a lap with someone dragging you along (and they don't quit or crash) you will probably have a bad day. My first attempt I was at the front of the queue for the second slot so dragged an entire train along, then never got the tow for my lap and started P16 (!).

My next attempt I started P4 (an average lap with a good tow in qualifying) and finished P3.

I know it won't be fixed in GTS but PD should consider this for GT Next.

 

[Pigems]

Qualifying is still a slipstream fest, worth up to a second per lap here.

So, if you miss out on a lap with someone dragging you along (and they don't quit or crash) you will probably have a bad day. My first attempt I was at the front of the queue for the second slot so dragged an entire train along, then never got the tow for my lap and started P16 (!).

My next attempt I started P4 (an average lap with a good tow in qualifying) and finished P3.

I know it won't be fixed in GTS but PD should consider this for GT Next.

What are you getting for full race times?

 

[Rangeraus]

What are you getting for full race times?

I did a 27:16 but I refuelled when I probably shouldn't have. The winner (Emree) did a 27:06

The Audi TT is what you want to have