FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[dimassa19]

First post, first ever FIA win!

Welcome aboard!

 

[bloodyboyblue]

Sooo close...yet so far. I keep messing up the fast left hander before the final chicane, I could probably run a 2:01.6...but Lester’s lap is pretty mediocre, he messed up a lot, I’m sure the top guys will be lapping in the 2:00s by the time the event rolls around. Guess I’ll need to practice and see if the Peugeot or Toyota is better in race conditions.

This race is basically my dream combo.

 

[HERE4BEER3]

It is my regret to announce the Pug Train has crashed for good.

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Flat out, we needed two great race combos in Stage 2 to have a chance and we've had none. The VGT is atrocious off any slow corners which most recent tracks has had in spades and unlike Stage 1, we didn't have fuel savings as our equalizer. Gr4 RCZ is... a Gr5 car and other than a miraculous victory at a fuel saving combo, it won't score anything for us. We ran the numbers and we're so far behind that asking the team to continue would've been pointless.

Still, the train at least got to Salzburg, which is a major accomplishment. Proud of the entire field of Plebs who put in the effort to make it that far. I only wish all of us could be in Salzburg to celebrate. We'll do our best to shock everyone again and get in there!

I'll still be racing because I want to stay up there to be in the Superstars race.

Too bad for the pug train. I was really rooting for you guys. I was looking at the numbers today. I agree. I figure,realistically, the best you guys could do at this point is get within 20 points of the 12th spot.

That would probably take a miracle though anyways. You're about 80 out right now. To get in Lewis woukd have to get rid of his 5 and 8 and replace them with 24and 27 you'd be halfway there. But with nobody in Csa being able to crack 16 points it seems it would be near impossible for you and schnik to make up the other 40 and that assuming nobody else improves at all. So yea, unless some one comes out of csa and nails mid 20's the last 3 rounds, Lewis get mid 20s or better in 2 and you and Schnick improve a few points....that's asking a lot. It's a sad day my friends lol

 

[MrCooper]

I’m sure the top guys will be lapping in the 2:00s by the time the event rolls around.

That’s a pretty safe bet, as the current best time is 2:00.349 (by Pirata). (https://gtsport.r1s3.net/championships is useful for this)

 

[bloodyboyblue]

That’s a pretty safe bet, as the current best time is 2:00.349 (by Pirata). (https://gtsport.r1s3.net/championships is useful for this)

Good thing I don’t have to race those guys. North and South America’s times aren’t that far apart yet. Usually I’m about a second outside the top 10 so anything better than that and maybe I have hope of finishing better than 17th in the top split.

 

[KaiB]

That’s a pretty safe bet, as the current best time is 2:00.349 (by Pirata). (https://gtsport.r1s3.net/championships is useful for this)

Nice to see that i´m in top 500 P406 in Alsace and P485 in Dragon tail gardens that actually was test laps, KaYibE btw.

Well at least for now i´m on the list until new lap times update , wish i had a wheel and more time teenager time long gone now .

 

[Lost Sheltie]

Does anyone know if we should pit in the Nations race tomorrow? I had a quick race and the tyres seemed to be melting, so not sure whether it is best to struggle on or to pit? I did pit, but everyone behind me pitted as well so I have no idea if it was a good idea or not.

Also was wondering if any car is better than the rest? Peugeot seems to be dominating the times but maybe another car is better for the race?

 

[Rods]

Does anyone know if we should pit in the Nations race tomorrow? I had a quick race and the tyres seemed to be melting, so not sure whether it is best to struggle on or to pit? I did pit, but everyone behind me pitted as well so I have no idea if it was a good idea or not.

Also was wondering if any car is better than the rest? Peugeot seems to be dominating the times but maybe another car is better for the race?

I’m skipping this round, so all I can tell you is the pug is usually one of the better GrB cars when it comes to tire saving.

The challenge with these rally cars is to avoid sliding around too much. If you go flat out all the time, you’ll be dead in the water a couple of laps later.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Does anyone know if we should pit in the Nations race tomorrow? I had a quick race and the tyres seemed to be melting, so not sure whether it is best to struggle on or to pit? I did pit, but everyone behind me pitted as well so I have no idea if it was a good idea or not.

Also was wondering if any car is better than the rest? Peugeot seems to be dominating the times but maybe another car is better for the race?

After the latest update they shortened the pitstop times and from my testing single pit lap 3 gives the same laptime as double pitting (2-2-3). Though of course with double pitting you have to overtake cars on track. But the nature of Alsace's corners is very conducive to shoving one up the inside if you have fresher tyres. Just depends how argy bargy you want to drive I guess Defo don't try a non stopper. The Pug is the best on tyres but even that still runs out of tyre at the end.

 

[05XR8]

Pitted 3 times. Laps 2, 4, 5. Really made time on that last lap. If I didn't get punted, at the final corners before my first pit stop, I might have passed the pack I was catching at the end. Did pass the car I started behind at the finish line, as it got a penalty punting a car at the final two corners. Oh, it was actually fun.

Edit: Looking at the last lap replay, I moved up five positions in that final lap. Three by passing with fresh tyres, two by finish line penalties.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Since Pug's season is pretty much over, I might as well share how I came to that conclusion and a few thoughts about who will get in.


A screenshot of the spreadsheet that I had maintained on my end since the season started. I knew what the best of 5 score looked like from the first round and better yet, I set it up so that I could see possible scoring scenarios. From the Pug train's perspective, I figured after Stage 1 that we needed two strong combos (30+ point rounds) to stay in the running. St Croix A and Sardegna A looked like the best candidates for these and boy, they were anything but strong combos. Worse, Alfa had effectively stolen a spot thanks to OP combo after OP combo for them while Chevy, Madza and Nissan had much better scoring opportunities. In retrospect, we were finished the moment they came out with the Stage 2 schedule.

As for predictions for the last few spots:
Honda - The remaining combos may be okay for them but they lack strong enough support in NA and CSA. That will keep them out.
Nissan - Done because the Gr4 GT-R is too meh to score anything relevant and not enough points to be gained at Barcelona to close the gap.
Madza - Similar to Nissan with Gr4. They may be good at Barcelona but based on their lowest 5th scores, their strong drivers will need to win their T16 races just for a slim shot. I don't feel that's in the cards.
Subaru - See Nissan for Gr4. Even in the best case scenario where the three strongest drivers win T16, they still need the other two regions to score something. They haven't all season long and that will sink them.
Alfa Romeo - 99.9% in. Stage 2 has been Alfa 4C heaven and they still have two possible combos left to score big. Cue the crowd with pitchforks on nerfing that car to oblivion.
Chevrolet - Sardegna A may have just given them the last spot. All five regions have pretty high 5th round scores so moving any further up may be hard. However, most likely the Manus ahead of them will be scoring the crucial Manu points others below them need.
Hyundai and above - At this point, it's more about securing one of the three spots for Tokyo/Monaco.

 

[MrBrunoA]

Since Pug's season is pretty much over, I might as well share how I came to that conclusion and a few thoughts about who will get in.

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A screenshot of the spreadsheet that I had maintained on my end since the season started. I knew what the best of 5 score looked like from the first round and better yet, I set it up so that I could see possible scoring scenarios. From the Pug train's perspective, I figured after Stage 1 that we needed two strong combos (30+ point rounds) to stay in the running. St Croix A and Sardegna A looked like the best candidates for these and boy, they were anything but strong combos. Worse, Alfa had effectively stolen a spot thanks to OP combo after OP combo for them while Chevy, Madza and Nissan had much better scoring opportunities. In retrospect, we were finished the moment they came out with the Stage 2 schedule.

As for predictions for the last few spots:
Honda - The remaining combos may be okay for them but they lack strong enough support in NA and CSA. That will keep them out.
Nissan - Done because the Gr4 GT-R is too meh to score anything relevant and not enough points to be gained at Barcelona to close the gap.
Madza - Similar to Nissan with Gr4. They may be good at Barcelona but based on their lowest 5th scores, their strong drivers will need to win their T16 races just for a slim shot. I don't feel that's in the cards.
Subaru - See Nissan for Gr4. Even in the best case scenario where the three strongest drivers win T16, they still need the other two regions to score something. They haven't all season long and that will sink them.
Alfa Romeo - 99.9% in. Stage 2 has been Alfa 4C heaven and they still have two possible combos left to score big. Cue the crowd with pitchforks on nerfing that car to oblivion.
Chevrolet - Sardegna A may have just given them the last spot. All five regions have pretty high 5th round scores so moving any further up may be hard. However, most likely the Manus ahead of them will be scoring the crucial Manu points others below them need.
Hyundai and above - At this point, it's more about securing one of the three spots for Tokyo/Monaco.

Apart from Autopolis and Brands, where are you considering the Alfa OP? Honest question since I’m driving for Alfa but been missing many races this season. When I find time it’s usually a Gr.3 race that is bad for us.

 

[Windfire1010]

Apart from Autopolis and Brands, where are you considering the Alfa OP? Honest question since I’m driving for Alfa but been missing many races this season. When I find time it’s usually a Gr.3 race that is bad for us.

In the second stage the Alfa was the best car at every gr4 race, 3 of those the Alfa was untouchable.

 

[MrBrunoA]

In the second stage the Alfa was the best car at every gr4 race, 3 of those the Alfa was untouchable.

So far there have been only 3 Gr. 4 races in the second stage: Autopolis, Brands Hatch and Alsace. The latter was a heavy fuel saving race. I couldn't race on this one, though it has always been one of my strong tracks, but from what I've seen the 4C didn't have any advantage there. The car underperforms too much in fuel saving races. As for the Gr. 3 races, unfortunately the Alfa is not competitive in any track. The Alfa driver in your region is just too strong and he's making the cars look better than they actually are.

 

[stpatty]

It's going to be 1 stop in the Peugeot for me at Alsace. 30/70 torque, 5 BB. I think 50/50 torque might be quicker in a single lap though, so I'm going to try that for qualifying.

 

[breeminator]

Something is puzzling me, can anyone explain this? When I look at top split times, they are consistently faster than me in qualifying to a much greater extent than in the race. For example, practising for today's race, if I use the same car, I am 3 secs slower than Oceania top split pole QT, but only 1.5 secs per lap slower for race pace. Are worn tyres a leveller, is their greater skill only able to fully manifest with fresh tyres? I'd kind of expect the opposite, that worn tyres would be more demanding of skill, which is why it puzzles me.

 

[GhostCaliber]

That’s a pretty safe bet, as the current best time is 2:00.349 (by Pirata). (https://gtsport.r1s3.net/championships is useful for this)

What were the general cars they used? can't see their vehicles used on that link

 

[Famine]

Well, the standard of racing at Alsace in the Gr.B cars left a lot to be desired. The influence of the standards seen (in these cars, among others) at the World Tours coming into play, I wonder?

 

[RACECAR]

Well, the standard of racing at Alsace in the Gr.B cars left a lot to be desired. The influence of the standards seen (in these cars, among others) at the World Tours coming into play, I wonder?

Guess I have a less then fun race awaiting me tonight then.

 

[Barry R]

6pm Nations was a good result for me, qualified 3rd and finished 2nd (riding the bumper of 1st). 1 stop strategy was the way to go as you dont lose much time in the pits! @breeminator started further down the field and had a difficult race by the sounds of it. Another 1500 odd points and 1000 DR so im done for the night.. Good luck all who are racing later

 

[Kevstah2004]

grr ffs some idiot just swiped me out at the Dragon and i’m back to DR: D 140, my fault for qualifying 2 seconds off my practice pace, I guess.
Got 16Points for a recovering drive after a pit stop and making my way up to 17th. I can’t be be bothered doing race 3 for each this round.

I can’t even make it around the first corner at Alsace, i’m sliding all over the place on ice, I guess it’s one for the drifters.

 

[stpatty]

My condolences to the SR of anyone who tries Nations tonight

Slidey cars, high tire wear and wide, banked, endless corners with constantly evolving braking points is a nasty combination

 

[Adam Barber]

Didn't bother with the nation's cup race but I did surprisingly good manufacturers race at a circuit I don't really like for McLaren at a handling circuit. Made up 6 or 7 places to finish 7th and get 610 points. I even remembered that short shifting on the McLaren is faster as well.

Feel sorry for the FF drivers this round with T1.

 

[Famine]

Didn't bother with the nation's cup race but I did surprisingly good manufacturers race at a circuit I don't really like for McLaren at a handling circuit. Made up 6 or 7 places to finish 7th and get 610 points. I even remembered that short shifting on the McLaren is faster as well.

Feel sorry for the FF drivers this round with T1.

My room was full of morons, mainly the moron in a Megane who parked it on the apex of the first chicane every lap and had no sideways awareness of any kind. Luckily he got enough of a penalty for doing the latter that I got past.

 

[RACECAR]

Heard the Peugeot was the best on tire wear so did some testing. Absolutely shocked how, at least with my driving, the rears are surprisingly not baked by halfway. If anything, it seems the fronts are the main concern (which might just mean I need to go down abit on my Brake Bias)

 

[GhostCaliber]

Well, the standard of racing at Alsace in the Gr.B cars left a lot to be desired. The influence of the standards seen (in these cars, among others) at the World Tours coming into play, I wonder?

What does this mean? I didn't watch any of that footage, mainly because I'm not interested in watching them, only playing the game lol.

Where they wild and reckless or something?

 

[breeminator]

6pm Nations was a good result for me, qualified 3rd and finished 2nd (riding the bumper of 1st). 1 stop strategy was the way to go as you dont lose much time in the pits! @breeminator started further down the field and had a difficult race by the sounds of it. Another 1500 odd points and 1000 DR so im done for the night.. Good luck all who are racing later

I was able to try again at 10pm, got a reasonable result, 4th for 1140 points. My DR had dropped after the first race, and I was at the top end of the ratings in the second lobby, vs the lowest rated in the first lobby, so the lobby was quite a bit lower rated overall. I think I'm around the limit of where my driver rating can go, now, a net drop from the two races today, first time that has happened for a long time.

 

[Famine]

Where they wild and reckless or something?

Somewhat, yes.

 

[bloodyboyblue]

I’m going to stick with the Toyota for the first shot at Nations, just can’t get the Peugeot to run as consistently and it doesn’t really suit my style as much. It’s going to tough on tires with the controller either way. If the Toyota fails I’ll run the Peugeot for the 2nd slot I guess.

 

[MortosDer]

Yeah. Not bothering with nations tonight. I tried a few laps and I'm too off pace. Not worth the hassle.
Still two races to go, I need a couple of good results to get 1st for my country. Currently 350 points behind.