FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[theschledy]

Sure. Just as if the META MEgane SLophy and McLaren F1 were released mid-season.

I don't understand who that's unfair to. If a car is released mid season nobody gets to choose it, and therefore nobody gets an advantage.

But again, you're complaining about an exhibition season. And at the end of the day, you're waiting around for a car that you hope is better than all of the other Gr.4 cars. Seems like argument to talk about fairness.

I thought the only way to get the Gr4 Supra was to complete the survey? Or was it just to get a special livery?

Yeah as far as we know that's the only way to get it, and it should be the actual GR.4 car.

 

[banckzy]

Interesting in Kie's guide he's got the manufacturers strategy down as a no stop. I'm using the Lexus which I understand is one of the worst on fuel economy, so maybe 1 stop will be faster for me.

I'm not the greatest at fuel saving strategy so whilst no stop may be the META, I will be going 1 stop.

 

[Adam Barber]

If you put for the mediums on lap 1 after starting on the hards in the manufactures does that count as using both tyres?

 

[banckzy]

If you put for the mediums on lap 1 after starting on the hards in the manufactures does that count as using both tyres?

Yes.

You can also put Medium on front and hard on rear and that counts.

 

[Adam Barber]

May be worth putting lap 1 depending on starting position then, and getting some clean air.

 

[Ashthebash]

Nothing like working out a strategy and getting some practice in for my only shot at Manufacturers, to then get disconnected as soon as matching starts

See you on Saturday!

 

[theschledy]

Nothing like working out a strategy and getting some practice in for my only shot at Manufacturers, to then get disconnected as soon as matching starts

See you on Saturday!

That sucks, sorry to hear!

Kinda sad that this is still an issue with the game.

 

[seosamh77]

So why did I just get a 20second penalty in the manufacturers, just a lowly D race, but still, I finished 3rd then got bumped back to 5th cause of the penalty?

I started the race on hard tyres, then 2 stopped, putting on mediums both times? Is that wrong?

 

[watto79]

So why did I just get a 20second penalty in the manufacturers, just a lowly D race, but still, I finished 3rd then got bumped back to 5th cause of the penalty?

I started the race on hard tyres, then 2 stopped, putting on mediums both times? Is that wrong?

That doesn't sound right. Are you absolutely 100% sure you started on hard tyres? If you qualified on mediums you'd need to change them in the car settings before the race. Do you have a replay?
Sorry if I sound doubtful but you shouldn't have had a penalty if you did start on hards.

 

[seosamh77]

definitely switched to hard in qualifying, I know cause I accidently went into the pit after my first qualy lap and changed on to them, which was annoying cause I could have got pole! Wasn't just me, about 3/4 of the field were the same. Ah well. I'll keep an eye on next race just to make sure.

 

[watto79]

definitely switched to hard in qualifying, I know cause I accidently went into the pit after my first qualy lap and changed on to them. Wasn't just me, about 3/4 of the field were the same. Ah well. I'll keep an eye on next race just to make sure.

I don't think changing from mediums to hards during qualifying would mean you would automatically start the race on hards. The car defaults to whatever the last tyre you were using in practice before the start of qualifying and the race. So if the event loaded with the car on mediums, and you changed to hards during qualifying, it would default back to mediums for the race unless you change them in the car settings between qualifying and race.

Hope I've explained that correctly. If something did bug out you'd expect it to affect everyone rather than just some of the field, but will be interesting to see if anyone else sees this.

 

[breeminator]

definitely switched to hard in qualifying, I know cause I accidently went into the pit after my first qualy lap and changed on to them, which was annoying cause I could have got pole! Wasn't just me, about 3/4 of the field were the same. Ah well. I'll keep an eye on next race just to make sure.

That won't switch you for the race, it's what is set in driving options that determines what you start the race on.

 

[mthomas_95]

It looks like the new points system is, if anything, worse than before for not rewarding higher splits sufficiently.

Everything Polyphony has done to these championships in 2019 has been a shambles. Hate to think of the amount of money being chucked at this ship starting to sink.

 

[seosamh77]

I don't think changing from mediums to hards during qualifying would mean you would automatically start the race on hards. The car defaults to whatever the last tyre you were using in practice before the start of qualifying and the race. So if the event loaded with the car on mediums, and you changed to hards during qualifying, it would default back to mediums for the race unless you change them in the car settings between qualifying and race.

Hope I've explained that correctly. If something did bug out you'd expect it to affect everyone rather than just some of the field, but will be interesting to see if anyone else sees this.

yeah, thanks, must have been that then, lesson learned! On to the nation now, will keep an eye on that!

Can't check back, only 15 minutes recorded and nothing of the race time I looked.

 

[breeminator]

It looks like the new points system is, if anything, worse than before for not rewarding higher splits sufficiently.

No, it has made it more beneficial to be in a higher split by increasing the points for 20th place, and spreading out the points down to that higher level.

Having said that, I can't be 100% certain yet that the winner's points are a constant multiple of average driver rating, like before. What PD said suggests it does still work like that, though.

 

[mthomas_95]

No, it has made it more beneficial to be in a higher split by increasing the points for 20th place, and spreading out the points down to that higher level.

Having said that, I can't be 100% certain yet that the winner's points are a constant multiple of average driver rating, like before. What PD said suggests it does still work like that, though.

The winner of Split 7 in EMEA is outscoring most of top split, and this is with a lower playerbase than an Official Season.

Making finishing 20th less bad than before hasn't made the fundamental problem go away.

 

[breeminator]

The winner of Split 7 in EMEA is outscoring most of top split, and this is with a lower playerbase than an Official Season.

Making finishing 20th less bad than before hasn't made the fundamental problem go away.

They would have outscored more of top split with the previous points system. They have moved it in the direction people want, but not as much as some people want.

 

[mclarenLB]

I'm playing in EMEA again for this season, gonna try and commit to streaming the entire season, which I've never managed before

 

[Tidgney]

We're live once again... or finally I guess? More FIA Action!

 

[BjoBosUndies]

There should be a rule about the number of dailies you have to enter per week to be eligible to race in FIA races for each week.

Let’s say all players must complete “15” Daily races per week, then they can enter the following weeks FIA races.

Why should the top guys be allowed to bank their 75k DR and not face the risks us lower ranked drivers have to face.

They are too protected. Come play with everyone else.

 

[eAxis Patohm]

if the Players dont deserve the rank - they will lose it fast via the FIA races!

The Problem with the Point System seems still the same: average DR Score does not work in top Lobbys since there is a "cap" of 75 k Points... this is still THE Problem in EMEA Region

 

[stpatty]

It looks like the new points system is, if anything, worse than before for not rewarding higher splits sufficiently.

Everything Polyphony has done to these championships in 2019 has been a shambles. Hate to think of the amount of money being chucked at this ship starting to sink.

Do people like yourself get the chance to give feedback/suggestions to PD about this sort of thing?

 

[NosOsH]

Maybe DR should decay over time if an account is not used in the dailes enough. And award more money in the dailies compared to offline play. Maybe penalties you cause cost credits as well?, if the penalty system had any semblance of fault detection...

 

[breeminator]

I just watched a stream of a lobby that looked to be around 8k DR, to get another reference for the winner's points. One problem is you can't know the exact average DR unless you grab a screenshot of the lobby at the start, then look up everyone's DR during the race. Maybe we need to do that to work it out for certain. So I have two references, but the average DRs are estimates based on only looking up some of the drivers:

Average DR approx 73k, winner 355 pts = 0.00486x
Average DR approx 8k, winner 44 pts = 0.00550x

So maybe it isn't a constant multiple of the average driver rating. Has anyone been bothered enough to screencap multiple lobbies at the start and look up every driver rating before the race ends to work out exact averages at different levels?

 

[theschledy]

There should be a rule about the number of dailies you have to enter per week to be eligible to race in FIA races for each week.

Let’s say all players must complete “15” Daily races per week, then they can enter the following weeks FIA races.

Why should the top guys be allowed to bank their 75k DR and not face the risks us lower ranked drivers have to face.

They are too protected. Come play with everyone else.

The dailies are set up on a way that once you get to a certain DR point, there's nothing to gain and everything to lose. One bad race and you're out 1000 DR at least. But win that same split and you might get 200 back. And I'm saying that being in the 40k Dr range. I could only imagine what it's like for those at 75k

 

[ShiftingGears]

Raking in those points. Good incentive to reach the top split though.

 

[hairless_ape]

Is there some place I can look up BoP for this season? Haven't even picked a manufacturer yet, let alone done any practice. Lol

 

[BjoBosUndies]

The dailies are set up on a way that once you get to a certain DR point, there's nothing to gain and everything to lose. One bad race and you're out 1000 DR at least. But win that same split and you might get 200 back. And I'm saying that being in the 40k Dr range. I could only imagine what it's like for those at 75k

I’m on 55k DR. Can’t even get up enough good competition to try and raise points to a higher level. 100pts for a win, there’s no point.

 

[theschledy]

I’m on 55k DR. Can’t even get up enough good competition to try and raise points to a higher level. 100pts for a win, there’s no point.

So you have it even worse than me haha. I was over 45k for a bit, and was absolutely terrified to do races. I'm surprised PD hasn't tried to improve that, they'd surely get more daily race users if they did.

 

[HERE4BEER3]

I'm curious what C lobby drivers get for points now. I imagine with the smaller point values the gap between the top lobbies and the lowest lobbies has to be smaller, right? I'm looking forward to checking the points tomorrow. Hope PD didn't miss the mark, but it's not looking good, seems like the same point system with smaller numbers.