FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[HERE4BEER3]

It also opened the door to someone scoring high in an early slot and then messing up other people's races in later slots, safe in the knowledge that their points were safe.

Forgot about that!

IMO best result counts reminds me of participation awards or an everybody wins mentality. Racing isn't easy. It's not always going to go your way. Sometimes you lose. Sometimes you get wrecked. Sometimes you take a risk that doesn't pay off. Take it in stride and learn from it, like I did last night, I am probably not risking another good result after getting shafted a few points looking for more.

 

[Trone_Colby]

This used to be the system but they changed it after people complained that it massively favoured those who could spare the time to do all the races on a given evening. It also opened the door to someone scoring high in an early slot and then messing up other people's races in later slots, safe in the knowledge that their points were safe.

That makes sense. I just get fed up with idiots and the current penalty system. Last night I wanted to rip my wheel off my entertainment center lol.

 

[05XR8]

That's without tyre wear, though. I tried a custom race with the FIA settings with both the Lambo and the Jag, and was faster in the Lambo due to it having better tyre wear.

That's crazy with it being awd.

 

[Odiesback]

You’re supposed to be discouraged from trying again. You should have one shot to get your best result, the extra attempts are mainly meant for disconnections and if you’re caught in an incident beyond your control and finish at the back.

Having your best score of the night count just rewards people with too much time on their hands and hurts people who actually have a life outside of GT.

I see your point, but doesn’t GTS simply disallow you from entering again by graying our the entry buttons once you finished one race? They could easily do that if that was the intent. I understand about being disconnected, being hit, etc. but those are just the risks of being in a race...

Regarding favoring people with time to race makes no sense. What you get out is directly related what you put in. It’s an EARNED advantage. I wish I could practice more, but I have a busy life. However, since there is a calendar of events, I can plan for those days way ahead of time and prepare as much as possible.

I agree with previous reply, you then should have one shot only, that would equalize it for everyone.

 

[Groundfish]

This. Like last night in manufacturers. I didn’t do well the first go only scoring 38 points in the 21:00 slot due to people crashing into me. I decided to give it another go at the last slot. Not only did I get hit by a late braker, later I was pitted by some screwball after the hairpin. It sent me to the wall and I couldn’t recover. By that time, I was 20th with no chance in hell of catching anyone so I quit.

I get 0 points for the round since that’s was my last race.

Things like that are why I run tcs 3.
They hit but it’s like you have stability control.

 

[bloodyboyblue]

I see your point, but doesn’t GTS simply disallow you from entering again by graying our the entry buttons once you finished one race? They could easily do that if that was the intent. I understand about being disconnected, being hit, etc. but those are just the risks of being in a race...

Regarding favoring people with time to race makes no sense. What you get out is directly related what you put in. It’s an EARNED advantage. I wish I could practice more, but I have a busy life. However, since there is a calendar of events, I can plan for those days way ahead of time and prepare as much as possible.

I agree with previous reply, you then should have one shot only, that would equalize it for everyone.

That’s a bit like saying people using a wheel or with the fanciest rig have earned their advantage by spending more money than others.

PD tried the other options, this is what they’ve landed on in the name of accessibility and fairness. So far anyway. I’d love it to be one shot again as well if disconnections could be handled better.

 

[Trone_Colby]

Things like that are why I run tcs 3.
They hit but it’s like you have stability control.

TCs 3? Geez lol. I don’t run tcs at all. It slows me down.

 

[Pigems]

What if they gave you just two chances per event? That way you could run a second race if you get DC’d/Crash in the first, but stay with the latest result counting. That way you could run 2/5 slots, but it’s still basically a 1 shot deal, you risk losing points by running the 2nd race if you have a good first one, but you also have a cushion for a DC/Crash in the first race by having the 2nd chance.

 

[watto79]

What if they gave you just two chances per event? That way you could run a second race if you get DC’d/Crash in the first, but stay with the latest result counting. That way you could run 2/5 slots, but it’s still basically a 1 shot deal, you risk losing points by running the 2nd race if you have a good first one, but you also have a cushion for a DC/Crash in the first race by having the 2nd chance.

That makes a huge amount of sense 👍

 

[Groundfish]

TCs 3

I love me some tcs 3. I leave it alone. All my times for qual are with it like that, for gr3, and usually 4, but not if I am in the gr4 Mclaren or Ferrari.
Street cars vintage cars, the kart, no.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Considering skipping Wednesday's race. This track is terrible and I see nothing but frustration in my future between it and the inevitable contact that will be made.

 

[GTWolverine]

Anyone have any tips for navigating the Mulsanne chicanes in traffic for tomorrow's Nations race? The braking boards are useless on this track, and the cone markers are impossible to see in traffic. I usually just lift early to avoid running into people but I give up positions when I do so, and literally everyone else can navigate these chicanes without issue.

 

[peppermint430]

Any consensus pick for vehicle and strategy at le mans?

I love me some tcs 3. I leave it alone. All my times for qual are with it like that, for gr3, and usually 4, but not if I am in the gr4 Mclaren or Ferrari.
Street cars vintage cars, the kart, no.

i use tcs2 on this track for gr1, costs a bit of time but i am not S-S and id rather lose a couple of sec than end up in a wall

 

[Winnie847]

Any consensus pick for vehicle and strategy at le mans?

Audi R18 (the newer one) or Toyota TS050 for hybrid picks, the Peugeot 908 for non-hybrid pick. Standing start, so non-hybrids will lose positions immediately.

Fuel won’t be an issue.

Medium tires are required, softs are available. It’s looking like the one-stop using both compounds is going to have a little bit faster total time than no-stopping on mediums, but both strategies could be effective depending on slipstream, how the race goes, and what other people do. I think starting on mediums, then making your decision based on how the race is going, gaps, draft etc. is the best plan. Mediums for 3 or 4 laps, softs till the end if you decide to pit. Might be a good idea to make sure you can make the softs last 4 laps before the race though.

 

[KaiB]

I will try Mclaren VGT , i don´t know why but its the only VGT i like..., it´s a bit tricky to drive and the hybrid kicks in a bit late wich cause problems at the start of the race but once it´s launched it´s a beast, in short and very technical tracks it´s weak cause of the hybrid late appearance but for nations this tracks seems to feet this car attributes, tryed a couple laps and it oblitarates toyota or audi in straights and fast corners and losing in start of the race and slow corners.

 

[peppermint430]

3rd in nations! Real weird mix of cars, I think unless you are in a very high split just go with what you are comfortable with. I used the ts050 and starting from p3 I got into p1 somehow at the first turn and stayed there until just before the final lap when the actual good drivers came past. A good start got me away from the absolute carnage, hope that intel helps someone.

 

[KaiB]

3rd in nations! Real weird mix of cars, I think unless you are in a very high split just go with what you are comfortable with. I used the ts050 and starting from p3 I got into p1 somehow at the first turn and stayed there until just before the final lap when the actual good drivers came past. A good start got me away from the absolute carnage, hope that intel helps someone.

Yes that´s my fear piking the mclaren, even i get pole the car just have a slow start and for shure people will Ram and bump unless all ppl mess up for shure at least 3 positions will be lost at race start cause of the hybrid system :S, problem will be if incidents happens wich lead for more positions loss.

 

[05XR8]

Going with the 787B. 2 laps, did a 20.527 with 19.922 optimum. Started a 3rd lap and was up 0.7, but after Indianapolis, I got too greedy making time and wheelspun myself into the barrier, before the "Porsche" banner.

Edit: Booted me before the player screen. Forget this...

 

[Ashthebash]

Audi R18 (the newer one) or Toyota TS050 for hybrid picks, the Peugeot 908 for non-hybrid pick. Standing start, so non-hybrids will lose positions immediately.

Fuel won’t be an issue.

Medium tires are required, softs are available. It’s looking like the one-stop using both compounds is going to have a little bit faster total time than no-stopping on mediums, but both strategies could be effective depending on slipstream, how the race goes, and what other people do. I think starting on mediums, then making your decision based on how the race is going, gaps, draft etc. is the best plan. Mediums for 3 or 4 laps, softs till the end if you decide to pit. Might be a good idea to make sure you can make the softs last 4 laps before the race though.

That's exactly how I see it. Starting on softs could work if you can get away before Tertre Rouge on L1 but that slipstream - which is really all the way to Indianapolis - is worth close to 2s and would negate a lot of the soft tyre advantage. But softs as an option to be very quick late in the race will make for some good racing in my opinion.

Just hope that I don't get the tyre glitch I had in a lobby just! Settings were for medium, qualified on soft. Race started and in car display reckoned I was on soft but times and tyre wear were the same as mediums!

 

[Hygrade B]

This. Like last night in manufacturers. I didn’t do well the first go only scoring 38 points in the 21:00 slot due to people crashing into me. I decided to give it another go at the last slot. Not only did I get hit by a late braker, later I was pitted by some screwball after the hairpin. It sent me to the wall and I couldn’t recover. By that time, I was 20th with no chance in hell of catching anyone so I quit.

I get 0 points for the round since that’s was my last race.

I never quit but the low point system is my issue & now I know more about how it works I think.
I have to just race once or twice depending on my score, if I get a good score like 19 points max I got in 1 race then I won't bother race again incase I get a low score and loose points.

I always thought that you points was add on not taken away when you have a bad race.

if I am understanding what goes on you can loose points depending on bad a race you have.
And if I am not wrong if you start high & get hit to the end you loose lots of DR & you loose race points.

 

[Adam Barber]

One stop is looking likely, going to be using the Porsche 919 as I just like the way it drives and the extra gear over the Toyota and Audi make it a bit more drivable. Looking like a good mix of cars will be showing up based on my practice session.

 

[Winnie847]

Just watched Oceana and Asia top split streams and it looks like the LM55 is a great choice if you can drive it. It beats hybrids off the line, but they do catch up before T1 but at least they don't drive away with it. LM55 blows most other non group C cars away when it comes to top speed. There were also lots of 908's which seems to be another great choice. The way I see it, the less hybrids you have in your race, the more competitive the 908 will be, since they won't be passing you after every heavy braking zone. LM55 might be the meta though, due to it's great acceleration and top speed.

 

[Barry R]

Just watched Oceana and Asia top split streams and it looks like the LM55 is a great choice if you can drive it. It beats hybrids off the line, but they do catch up before T1 but at least they don't drive away with it. LM55 blows most other non group C cars away when it comes to top speed. There were also lots of 908's which seems to be another great choice. The way I see it, the less hybrids you have in your race, the more competitive the 908 will be, since they won't be passing you after every heavy braking zone. LM55 might be the meta though, due to it's great acceleration and top speed.

I'm going the LM55 after watching the above earlier. It's not my best track on the game...I suppose we will find out in 35 mins what peoples choices are. My plan is to 'try' and avoid penalties and see what happens... because we know lap one is going to be mental

 

[HERE4BEER3]

What if they gave you just two chances per event? That way you could run a second race if you get DC’d/Crash in the first, but stay with the latest result counting. That way you could run 2/5 slots, but it’s still basically a 1 shot deal, you risk losing points by running the 2nd race if you have a good first one, but you also have a cushion for a DC/Crash in the first race by having the 2nd chance.

I've been thinking this would be the best scenario whenever the top players talk about going back to one shot. I'd live with it if it was one-shot but I know I'd be screaming at my TV a lot, so at least 1 chance to go again would be ideal. I hardly like racing more than twice a night anyways. With warmups, 3 hours of game time is enough for an evening.

No matter what, the way points work and this being a global online competition the points are going to be a bit of a crap shoot. I mean what happens if we go to one-shot and TRL_Lighting picks a time slot that by some chance none of the other top split guys pick and he winds up with crap points? In North America I bet most players live in Eastern time, so if most get their races in early while the West Coast is still at work the West coast could wind up getting shafted. I think they'd have to lobby based points instead of DR based if they go that route again then, ie; Top split gets these set points, no matter whose in it and so on down the line. But even then, no matter how you cut it there always going to be something to complain about. I think as things are now it's a good enough balance between competitiveness and giving people the time to get a races in.

 

[stpatty]

Since I'm still in ~17k DR races I'm going to give the 787B a try. It'll be a good laugh, if nothing else.

 

[Barry R]

Since I'm still in ~17k DR races I'm going to give the 787B a try. It'll be a good laugh, if nothing else.

Dude, last time we met you were 35-40k....what's happened

 

[stpatty]

Dude, last time we met you were 35-40k....what's happened

I got a wheel in November and tanked my rating so I wasn't slow/dangerous. It's been solid improvement week on week since I made the switch, but consistency and practice is even harder to come by than it was before.

 

[Barry R]

So a 787 took the win. I took 9th after starting 12th. Mixed bag of cars. The start is crazy with hybrids appearing from know where! More practice I think

I got a wheel in November and tanked my rating so I wasn't slow/dangerous. It's been solid improvement week on week since I made the switch, but consistency and practice is even harder to come by than it was before.

Gotta go back to go fwd!

 

[Adam Barber]

After starting P8 I got a 5 second penalty on lap 1 for no reason at all and was then punted of at the 1st chicane and was then down to P19 after lap 1. Managed to climb my way back up to P8 at the finish. Porsche was good overall and there was a decent variety of car choices as well.

Edit: some guy got a light tap from the guy next to me at T1, I got a penalty for a tiny bit of contact and then that guy who was in front, now behind me, completely just punted of at the first chicane THEN had a go at me after the race???

FIA Nations penalty

• Adam Barber
• Jan 7, 2020

WTF

 

[ZIO]

Why PD had change the time of the races?

Anyone knows the matter?

In Italy now there isn't a race in late evening and for many persons it's a problem to partecipate (last race 22.20 pm) (many daddies such as me)
Before this decision, there were race around the 23 pm or later