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Looking forward to Catalunya also, softs seem worth maybe what 1.5-2 sec a lap but that’s in qual trim...
I dunno strategy. 17 laps. For me there in the past a lot depends on traffic, specially for me in what’s likely to be a midpack start...I’ll probably race a bit conservative there, mistakes seem to cost a lot...Depending on what happens I will probably try for longer stints. Smooth pays dividends there. When I press I lose time.. I think a lot of players will have an off there trying to push too hard..
Re the jr, ran a few the other day, crazy how fast some are on that track, you can absolutely fly through that last turn...It’s not a track I’m comfortable racing on though...
 
Has anyone found a good strategy for Catalunya on Sunday? RS tires have been lasting me about 4, maybe 5 laps in the Supra, and RM's seem like a bad idea. Is a 4 stopper even conceivable?

I am concidering it. I tried the hard tyres and with these you could do a one-stopper. But the Renault is a pig to drive with the hard tyres, it is all over the place and seconds slower then with the softs.
 
Did a quick race. Can just about squeeze 5 laps out of softs. So looking at 2 stop with 5S/5S/7H. Pit loss about 8 seconds from memory not adding fuel. Also race time was roughly 31 mins. Hard tire fastest lap was roughly 3 seconds slower than fastest on Softs. Thats only strategy i've tried so far.
 
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Did a quick race. Can just about squeeze 5 laps out of softs. So looking at 2 stop with 5S/5S/7H. Pit loss about 8 seconds from memory not adding fuel. Also race time was roughly 31 mins. Hard tire fastest lap was roughly 3 seconds slower than fastest on Softs. Thats only strategy i've tried so far.
Pit loss is 8s, 12s for fuel.

So maybe 4-4-4-4-1? That would net you 7-10s.
 
The Supra started to get pretty wild for me on corner exits when stretching 5 laps on softs, but I was also running +1 bb to save the front tires. With the amount of rear wear I was seeing on this track though it might be worth doing -1/-2 instead and trying for the 5/5/5/2 strat
 
I’m definitely running default tcs for this in the soopraw. Last time I raced this combo was vette. Vette is excellent. A name player in a Soopraw passed me, but lost it at the chicane.
The Supra feels good too, but for me vette is wicked here, easier in the technical parts.
My fastest laps here always feel slow, just smooth lines little tire slippin.
I could break 44 definitely on softs default settings if I practiced...
 
I'm thinking 3-stop for tomorrow. Start on RM. Go 6-1-9-9 maybe. Noticed dropoff on RM after lap 6 on them.

Edit - 6 RM - 9 RS - refuel + 1 RH - 9 RS (or 10/8 with softs)

This would put you of the softs with the least amount of fuel.
 
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I'm thinking 3-stop for tomorrow. Start on RM. Go 6-1-9-9 maybe. Noticed dropoff on RM after lap 6 on them.
I'm doing three stops but aiming for 9-9-6-1 so need to start near the front. If I start near the back I'll aim for a 1-8-9-7. The fastest guys will be the ones who run their fuel down, fuelling mid-race (L10-L14) to get to the end just doesn't work, the heavy car costs way too much time
 
I'm doing three stops but aiming for 9-9-6-1 so need to start near the front. If I start near the back I'll aim for a 1-8-9-7. The fastest guys will be the ones who run their fuel down, fuelling mid-race (L10-L14) to get to the end just doesn't work, the heavy car costs way too much time

Honestly I don't think the RM's are worth using at all. They are 1-2s slower per lap in my tests, and they barely last longer than RS tires.

That's what's great about this race... lots of different strategies.

Personally, if I start RS first stint, my 3rd lap on RM for 2nd stint is just as fast leading me to possible start on RM. Tire wear can be bad first leg of race with a lot of battling going on.
 
Out of curiosity, I revisited the Laguna combo again. Pitstop delta is ~19 seconds (pit time + tyre change minus track time bypassed). I calculated that 1 stop (7S/8S, no fuel saving, +20s penalty) is approx 7 seconds faster than normal strat (7S/7M/H1, no fuel saving). Whereas a no stop (15S, fuel saving, +20s penalty) is approx only 4 seconds faster than normal strat. The key though is that with a 1 stop you have to push hard the whole race and if you get blocked by a slower car in the second stint, game over. With a no stop you're less affected by other cars (just make sure they pass you without sending you to shadow realm), but depending on your car stretching the tyres & fuel the whole race can be sketchy. And of course, now that the cat's out of the bag and everyone is using the loophole strat, they will all end up sharing the same piece of track and tripping over each other. If you use the "normal" strategy and run in clean air, you might end up being faster in total race time despite the on paper disadvantage ;) Really cool how everything works out, but I still maintain that this probably wouldn't work anywhere else because the pit delta at Laguna is oh-so-perfectly equal to the penalty time :lol:

I've seen some people comparing this to mixed compounds as well. I had been using mixed compounds to make some cars behave better even before mandatory tyre reqs were a thing (e.g. harder front on Ferrari Gr.3 to combat oversteer, harder rear on FF/4WD Gr.4 to combat understeer), so I didn't really see it as an exploit. Just an opportunity for the more "handicapped" cars to compete on equal grounds, especially when high tyre wear were involved. Is it unrealistic? Probably. But then again not being able to change your suspension setup to cure chronic handling problems isn't realistic either (e.g. excessive rear toe and LSD accel).
 
Won my race! Set a pole time 1:18.774.
Set fastest lap of the race 1:18.234.
Pit laps 5, 10, 16, all on soft tyres.
Pit lap 21 for mediums.
Pit lap 23 for the hard tyres.
Added fuel on laps 16(4 laps worth), 21(2.6) and 23(topped up to 2 laps from 1.3 remaining).

At one point, I had a 34 second gap. After the switch to mediums, my gap was 22 seconds. Finished 10.5 seconds in front of second place.

Good luck to everyone!
 
Out of curiosity, I revisited the Laguna combo again. Pitstop delta is ~19 seconds (pit time + tyre change minus track time bypassed). I calculated that 1 stop (7S/8S, no fuel saving, +20s penalty) is approx 7 seconds faster than normal strat (7S/7M/H1, no fuel saving). Whereas a no stop (15S, fuel saving, +20s penalty) is approx only 4 seconds faster than normal strat. The key though is that with a 1 stop you have to push hard the whole race and if you get blocked by a slower car in the second stint, game over. With a no stop you're less affected by other cars (just make sure they pass you without sending you to shadow realm), but depending on your car stretching the tyres & fuel the whole race can be sketchy. And of course, now that the cat's out of the bag and everyone is using the loophole strat, they will all end up sharing the same piece of track and tripping over each other. If you use the "normal" strategy and run in clean air, you might end up being faster in total race time despite the on paper disadvantage ;) Really cool how everything works out, but I still maintain that this probably wouldn't work anywhere else because the pit delta at Laguna is oh-so-perfectly equal to the penalty time :lol:

I've seen some people comparing this to mixed compounds as well. I had been using mixed compounds to make some cars behave better even before mandatory tyre reqs were a thing (e.g. harder front on Ferrari Gr.3 to combat oversteer, harder rear on FF/4WD Gr.4 to combat understeer), so I didn't really see it as an exploit. Just an opportunity for the more "handicapped" cars to compete on equal grounds, especially when high tyre wear were involved. Is it unrealistic? Probably. But then again not being able to change your suspension setup to cure chronic handling problems isn't realistic either (e.g. excessive rear toe and LSD accel).

i used the 8/7 soft strategy and it brought me from 17th to 5th. I do think it was the best strategy for that race.
 
Avoiding Nations and did a quick test run for Manufacturers at Catalunya. Viper isn’t fast there. Tried a 5/5/5/2 and think it might be one stop too many, for the Viper anyway. Only put in a 1.46.8 as the fastest lap and average 1.49.0s on the 5th lap of Softs. Will test a 2 stop and see what the difference is.

Tires after 5 laps with BB 2 to the rear :yuck::

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Hey everyone, hoping to try my first FIA nations race today. As I never raced online with fuel consumption multiplier, is there some kind of meta setting in terms of fuel? Does everyone use setting 1 (most power) or something else? And does the race start with full tanks?
 
Hey everyone, hoping to try my first FIA nations race today. As I never raced online with fuel consumption multiplier, is there some kind of meta setting in terms of fuel? Does everyone use setting 1 (most power) or something else? And does the race start with full tanks?
Start with full tanks and most will use fuel map 1, could probably get away with map 2 in the twisty bits to save a couple of laps worth but it's not something I'm going to entertain

Good luck, they're fun!
 
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Prediction: the Superstars races won't have the highest available points in the round.

With 1x points multiplier and being slot 3 there is really no incentive to enter.

The FIA Superstars race here was worth a paltry 283 points, less than slots 1 and 2 of the night, and less than all rounds this season. So you may as well skip it if you get a decent score.

I also disconnected from all 3 FIA races I entered - twice when matchmaking started, and once on the starting grid (for the Superstars race). Not sure what is going on, as I had a wired connection to the PS4, reset modem, cleared game cache. Had no problems entering a Daily race in-between though.

 
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