FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Randall_Flagg]

Roller coaster day today for team Mitsubishi. 1st race, didn't qualify cause I got bumped on my lap and restarted, time ran out during my new out lap. Started 18th, got up to 6th, ran myself off a few times into last again. Avoided rage quit, finished a lap down.
Tried again later. Qualified 15th, slow but steady rise to 4th by lap 12, no stops, so on lap 14, guy flew by me but I went from 15th to 5th. With 3rd in round 1 that's 2 races, 2 top 5s. I had zero top 5s in FIA races lifetime going into this series. Am I ever getting out of D rating? No. probably not. But I'm having fun.

 

[GTWolverine]

1st race (2nd time slot): went against my better judgement and decided to try to follow a car in qualifying. Got held up slightly on all of my laps but miraculously qualified 9th less than 0.4s off of pole. I immediately ruin any chance of doing well (stop me if you've heard this before...) by nearly spinning on cold tires in Turn 1. Fell back to 12th and for the rest of the race was stuck behind cars I was faster than, but couldn't pass. I picked them off slowly until I was looking at a semi-respectable 7th place, but got taken out by a BMW who spun on the outside curb at Turn 2 which dumped me down to 14th. Once the last lap started and I saw I wouldn't do any better than 14th I saw no point in even finishing and quit, not caring about DR damage from doing so. I had the pace to easily be Top 5 probably. Hopefully I'm not here all night...

2nd race (3rd time slot): Qualified 9th again in spite of a qualifying lap 0.2s faster than my qualifying time in my 1st race, with 1st-15th separated by 0.9s and pole and 2nd setting the exact same time. This time I was way more careful through Turn 1, and picked off 5 spots 1-by-1 all on the run between Turns 2 and 3 because of how well the Corvette puts the power down there with almost no need for throttle control, and also due to being opportunistic when some people ran wide or were barged wide at that turn. The front 3 were all nose-to-tail the entire race, and I actually started catching them towards the end of the race, dropping the gap from 8s to less than 6s. If I'd qualified better I'm sure I could've stuck with their slipstream. I almost threw away 4th place by running too wide out of Turn 4 and picking up a 1s penalty in addition to messing up my tires. That reduced my gap from 5th place on the last lap from 2.5s to him being right on my bumper, but I fortunately held on to 4th for 178 points. I feel like I should be trying for at least 190 points, so I'm tempted to go again, but I know better than to push my luck. I'm really looking forward to DT Seaside on Saturday.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

My second race of the day. Signed with Ford for the Mustang. Qualified p6, made it to P2. Then "warning, 0.8 laps of fuel left"...
Had to pit, finished p6 I think...

 

[KosmoKazi]

The punting is getting ridiculous. Just done my 3rd race and i got punted off 5 times in the space of 2 laps. I keep qualifying in decent positions then my races get ruined by the punters.

I've concluded that if you're getting better than 1 out of 3 races that aren't completely ruined by punters and bombers then you're doing well. It's just god-awful. I was hoping to earn A status for the cleaner lobbies but from what I'm reading here, it's not really much better than the solid B rating rooms. It's a pity.

 

[Granadier]

1st race (2nd time slot): went against my better judgement and decided to try to follow a car in qualifying. Got held up slightly on all of my laps but miraculously qualified 9th less than 0.4s off of pole. I immediately ruin any chance of doing well (stop me if you've heard this before...) by nearly spinning on cold tires in Turn 1. Fell back to 12th and for the rest of the race was stuck behind cars I was faster than, but couldn't pass. I picked them off slowly until I was looking at a semi-respectable 7th place, but got taken out by a BMW who spun on the outside curb at Turn 2 which dumped me down to 14th. Once the last lap started and I saw I wouldn't do any better than 14th I saw no point in even finishing and quit, not caring about DR damage from doing so. I had the pace to easily be Top 5 probably. Hopefully I'm not here all night...

Man, I was right behind you when you called it. Thought you had a connection problem. I was on the edge of just quitting multiple times as well.

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Not to start a huge rant, but it’s relevant to the frustrations above. This round has solidified my opinion that started from Suzuka.

The slipstream change has been a huge boon for qualifying experience, but in the race itself it’s really put a damper on the ability for back and forth racing.

At Suzuka I spent 8 laps behind a Mustang with a near constant 0.7s gap because we were well matched through the corners, but even with the long straight before 130R there was zero chance of creating a move. Maybe again of 3 tenths tops.

At RBR this round it was the same story. Countless times I was within 3 tenths of a car in front on a corner exit but by the end of the straight I was forced to back off the throttle and tuck back in behind since you never got the overlap to safely make a move there.

Probably in for some hate, but I think they were too aggressive in the slipstream reduction; principally because of how short the races are even within the FIA rounds. If we were doing 30-40 lap races this wouldn’t be an issue. I predict this is going to create more frustration in drivers and create even more dangerous driving and dives.

Also that ended up being a long rant.

 

[roamingbard13]

Racing was pretty miserable tonight overall. A couple of crappy finishes, the first one my doing, the second with help from some friends.

I did have the pleasure of sharing the track with @CurbHog for both races, and he is a master of clean defending. Try not to let him in front of you!

 

[Razgriz2118]

Well, RBR was a mixed bag for me.

The first race, I qualified 6th. There was some argy-bargey going on ahead which ruined my fastest lap, but I was fine racing. However, I kept making mistakes throughout the race- I want to blame dirty air for it, but idk if that actually is an excuse or I'm just not able to nail consistent laps during a race. Either way, I finished 10th, which I'm happy with since I was ranked 17/20 in the lobby, but I was upset because I was unable to really lap faster than 1:32.xx when my qualifying lap was on the cusp of 1:30 and in practice I can consistently maintain a low 1:31.

The 2nd race was my best result. I qualified 3rd place and, after some incidents in T3, I was able to grab 2nd. Unfortunately, I guess I'm not too good with managing tire wear because I started making mistakes 2/3rds of the way through and finished P4. It was pretty uneventful since 1st was pulling a gap and when I got passed it was in a corner where I made a mistake/on a straight after I made a mistake. I really need to be more conscious of when I'm looking at the intervals/track map, that was the cause of a few mistakes where I looked over and then looked at the track and mistakened a braking point or turn-in point.

The 3rd race.... yeah, I was the idiot of that race. I qualified 2nd, and accidentally punted 1st lightly on Lap 1, T1. I slowed to let him pass (he was back in 2nd place) and I got passed by another person, and into T3, there was another major incident. I kept slipping down the order throughout the race; another guy tried passing on the outside of T4, and I tried defending the inside. I understeered into him and spun him out (if you're reading this ElijahWard25 I'm sorry again for that). Then other people kept catching up to me, they mostly passed without incident despite my defenses except for one guy, who I tapped a few times. Still, for half the race, I was behind 10th and 9th place and fought them a bit in some good battles. On the final lap, I ran wide on the final corners and got a time penalty, and the guy behind caught up. On T6 he went in a bit hot and tapped me, so on T7 I defended the inside as a response. He got around on the outside, but I messed up the cutback and spun him out (sorry again for that mistake TheRSman11 if you're reading this) and I finished 13th.

I think I really need to work on consistency when the tires have wear on them and also how to follow better through corners; I typically back off to avoid accidentally ramming the person in front, but sometimes I back off too much and lose any opportunity to pass. Still, I managed to recover my SR to 99 (despite sending 2 people into the Shadow Realm on the last race, because I guess those were clean moves according to the game) and I gained 1000 DR, so I still came out better than I entered.

 

[KosmoKazi]

Man, I was right behind you when you called it. Thought you had a connection problem. I was on the edge of just quitting multiple times as well.

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Not to start a huge rant, but it’s relevant to the frustrations above. This round has solidified my opinion that started from Suzuka.

The slipstream change has been a huge boon for qualifying experience, but in the race itself it’s really put a damper on the ability for back and forth racing.

At Suzuka I spent 8 laps behind a Mustang with a near constant 0.7s gap because we were well matched through the corners, but even with the long straight before 130R there was zero chance of creating a move. Maybe again of 3 tenths tops.

At RBR this round it was the same story. Countless times I was within 3 tenths of a car in front on a corner exit but by the end of the straight I was forced to back off the throttle and tuck back in behind since you never got the overlap to safely make a move there.

Probably in for some hate, but I think they were too aggressive in the slipstream reduction; principally because of how short the races are even within the FIA rounds. If we were doing 30-40 lap races this wouldn’t be an issue. I predict this is going to create more frustration in drivers and create even more dangerous driving and dives.

Also that ended up being a long rant.

I’m not a pro but I think the current slipstream and aero impact of traffic seems pretty good. It should be hard to pass, and the onus is on the driver behind to be a sport and do it the right way. As can be seen from the preceding posts, a lot of people are having a hard time with that!

I was stuck behind people a bit too, after being punted/barged by, and while it’s frustrating, I’d rather it be more realistic like that than arcade-y. The issue is when guys block or pull other crap, but I think the physics seem pretty good for what it’s worth.

 

[GTWolverine]

Man, I was right behind you when you called it. Thought you had a connection problem. I was on the edge of just quitting multiple times as well.

—

Not to start a huge rant, but it’s relevant to the frustrations above. This round has solidified my opinion that started from Suzuka.

The slipstream change has been a huge boon for qualifying experience, but in the race itself it’s really put a damper on the ability for back and forth racing.

At Suzuka I spent 8 laps behind a Mustang with a near constant 0.7s gap because we were well matched through the corners, but even with the long straight before 130R there was zero chance of creating a move. Maybe again of 3 tenths tops.

At RBR this round it was the same story. Countless times I was within 3 tenths of a car in front on a corner exit but by the end of the straight I was forced to back off the throttle and tuck back in behind since you never got the overlap to safely make a move there.

Probably in for some hate, but I think they were too aggressive in the slipstream reduction; principally because of how short the races are even within the FIA rounds. If we were doing 30-40 lap races this wouldn’t be an issue. I predict this is going to create more frustration in drivers and create even more dangerous driving and dives.

Also that ended up being a long rant.

I think part of the problem is that they might not have reduced the "dirty air" effect when they reduced the slipstream. You still have the same loss of downforce when following another car without gaining anything back with the slipstream.

 

[chuyler1]

I got dumped into some rough lobbies tonight. I don’t even want to talk about the first one right now, so i’ll focus on the second...

I’ll admit, I had a laps of precision once in this video, I was looking for my brake marker and did not expect the train to brake so early, and I had my own mistake that didn’t help matters, and that put me into the toxic mid pack. It felt like everyone was rough, but I think it was just one driver that hit me over and over again that was pissing everyone else off. I go outside, he side swipes me, I go inside, he follows right behind and punts. I try a different corner, he late brakes and bounces off me. Eventually he took himself out...and I was a little sad because I kind of wanted to give him a dose of his own medicine. Somehow I managed a 3rd place once I stopped getting punted.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Long story short, I'm transitioning back into work. Not good when everyone is try harding and I'm coming in on race day rusty and quite hungry.

 

[Ashthebash]

I’m not a pro but I think the current slipstream and aero impact of traffic seems pretty good. It should be hard to pass, and the onus is on the driver behind to be a sport and do it the right way. As can be seen from the preceding posts, a lot of people are having a hard time with that!

I think it's pretty good (also I'm no pro either!). You still get a tow from a distance but not much of one, when you get a run and get close then it REALLY pulls you along. The main difference now in my eyes is previously you could get a poor exit and the tow would still enable you to close in or at very least make up for your poor exit, now, you need to get your exit right to have a chance

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Not to start a huge rant, but it’s relevant to the frustrations above. This round has solidified my opinion that started from Suzuka.

The slipstream change has been a huge boon for qualifying experience, but in the race itself it’s really put a damper on the ability for back and forth racing.

At Suzuka I spent 8 laps behind a Mustang with a near constant 0.7s gap because we were well matched through the corners, but even with the long straight before 130R there was zero chance of creating a move. Maybe again of 3 tenths tops.

At RBR this round it was the same story. Countless times I was within 3 tenths of a car in front on a corner exit but by the end of the straight I was forced to back off the throttle and tuck back in behind since you never got the overlap to safely make a move there.

Probably in for some hate, but I think they were too aggressive in the slipstream reduction; principally because of how short the races are even within the FIA rounds. If we were doing 30-40 lap races this wouldn’t be an issue. I predict this is going to create more frustration in drivers and create even more dangerous driving and dives.

Also that ended up being a long rant.

This was always going to be the case when they scaled back the slipstream, all of a sudden people are finding it harder to overtake. I think they've done it quite well, it seems almost incremental. The closer you are the more of a pull you seem to get (from my experiences anyway). The difference now is you have to get more of the move done yourself with your exit from the previous corner and in the braking zone for the next rather than just be tidy on the exit and use the slipstream to get alongside.

Where I think the new slipstream will actually help overtaking, is in a train. The RB jr race at Sardegna a couple of weeks ago. You could be right behind someone with a better run out the corner, if they were within slipstream range of the car ahead you wouldn't be able to overtake because of the tow they were getting. Now that's lessened so it's less of a defence for a car that may have messed up an exit.

Overall though, it's definitely harder to pass now and I completely agree with your final sentence that people will get frustrated and see dives that aren't on as the only way past, which will cause more frustrations for the victims of those dives, and I could have said this on the "OP slipstream" thread weeks ago!

I was fine with the last slipstreaming model, too strong perhaps (especially on the edges of it) but I knew what would come if they weakened it!

 

[das89ca]

Manufacturers Cup - Rd2 RedBull Ring

I was pretty confident going into this, as RBR is one of my strongest tracks. I was able to put some good practice times for my level(easy to get under 2s gap from top EMEA time) even with the Alfa not being the perfect tool for the job. The plan was to drive until I get a top3 finish, improving my DR in the process...

2nd Slot - Put a good enough quali to get the pole(1.30.3). I was a bit too cautious in T1 and T2 on cold tyres and lost 2 positions. Then I was getting into my rhythm and started chasing down the 911 in 2nd. The only problem was the guys connection, he was all over the place. In lap 6, in the twisty section he disappeared and few seconds later appeared right in front of me as I was on the curb in the long descending left-hander. Swerved right to avoid him, car got unsettled and the result was a trip to the sand. Got back in P12 and I was able to get up to 9th until the end of the race.

3rd slot - qualified 3rd, messed up T2 and spun. Then it was a recovery mission from last to 12th.

4th slot - qualified 6th, completely missed the braking point in T1, destroying a Citroen in the process(Sorry for that) then at T2 was pushed wide and as my rear wheels got on the curb had a nice spin. Again on last, again pushing hard to recover what I could. Was part of a huge 4 car battle in the end for the 6th place, but had to settle for 8th.

5th slot - Qualified 2nd. In front was ani driving a GTR. Started good, put a 1s gap to the chasing cars, but the guy in front had a very erratic way to drive - braking way early(almost 20m early on a hard braking zone) and letting the car coasting. I tried to adapt to his style(as I could not really get past him, GTR completely destroying my Alfa on the straights), it worked for first 3 laps, but the cars behind started to catch up. Lap 4 in T2, he did the same, I managed to brake but the Hungarian behind didn't and sent me wide. As I was trying to get back I accelerated to hard and spun. Was in 15th, then again recovery mode. Had a good pace in the last laps, overtook all I could catch up and got a decent P7 in the end - and 89 points.

As I was seeing a pattern, called it a night...

 

[Kermit_2142]

Man, I was right behind you when you called it. Thought you had a connection problem. I was on the edge of just quitting multiple times as well.

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Not to start a huge rant, but it’s relevant to the frustrations above. This round has solidified my opinion that started from Suzuka.

The slipstream change has been a huge boon for qualifying experience, but in the race itself it’s really put a damper on the ability for back and forth racing.

At Suzuka I spent 8 laps behind a Mustang with a near constant 0.7s gap because we were well matched through the corners, but even with the long straight before 130R there was zero chance of creating a move. Maybe again of 3 tenths tops.

At RBR this round it was the same story. Countless times I was within 3 tenths of a car in front on a corner exit but by the end of the straight I was forced to back off the throttle and tuck back in behind since you never got the overlap to safely make a move there.

Probably in for some hate, but I think they were too aggressive in the slipstream reduction; principally because of how short the races are even within the FIA rounds. If we were doing 30-40 lap races this wouldn’t be an issue. I predict this is going to create more frustration in drivers and create even more dangerous driving and dives.

Also that ended up being a long rant.

Completely disagree with you, I was fed up of getting drafter from 6+tenths back only to then get dive bombed by a car with an exaggerated overspeed. It now takes a good exit and a draft to get alongside the car ahead. Add into the mix skill of dog fighting to put off the defending drivers racing line adds more depth to making a pass. These changes have 100% made it better.
If it takes all race to make a pass then that’s how it is, my fia qually top 10 was within 0.4s with that little overlap in laptime it’s virtually impossible to make a pass without race craft or mistakes and that’s how it should be. I applaud poly for making the changes and hope they don’t go back.

 

[TTR Racing]

I have a question. I searched but couldn't find an info about this. So, sorry if it was discussed before.

Is there a way to check out the fia championship standings other than using ps4? Something like kudosprime maybe?

Thanks a lot...

 

[Lost Sheltie]

I haven't raced yet with the new slipstream, but I would say that RBR isn't exactly the best track for a conclusion to be made about it. Last time I raced there I spent 14 laps tucked up behind the wing of a Nissan GTR. I managed to get alongside twice but still couldn't overtake. If you have a car that is good accelerating out of the 1st and 3rd corners, then people will really struggle to get past, whether it is the old or new slipstream.

I would suggest just waiting and seeing how the racing pans out over multiple tracks, as there are pros and cons to both the old and new models.

As for RBR, generally if you can get out of a race there without getting punted at the 3rd or 4th corners then I think you are doing well

@TTR Racing You can check the standings at https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gtsport/sportmode/championship/2256/manufacturer_ranking or check your standing at https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gtsport/sportmode/championship/2256/rankings

 

[TTR Racing]

Thank you so much. I have searched gt sports web page too but I guess I'm not bright enough. Thanks again have a nice day

 

[theschledy]

I took a second crack at RBR, wasn't happy with starting off another season with a rage quit. I got messed up by that death kerb, and it was all downhill from there.

Unpopular opinion: I know the new slipstream settings are "better", but it took all of the fun out of RBR.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

Unpopular opinion: I know the new slipstream settings are "better", but it took all of the fun out of RBR.

Have to disagree slightly here!

I very much had fun at RBR ring yesterday since I was non competitive before the new update and yesterday I was quite in the mix for a lot of
my race with the Supra, I used to encounter horrible handling problems in T1 and T3 but very few off track scrapes yesterday.

The real test is coming up on Saturday though Gr 2's at Catalunya. If I don't 'die' in the final chicane section then I very much know my improvements are also down to the changes made, video of last night's race coming soon!

 

[Pigems]

I took a second crack at RBR, wasn't happy with starting off another season with a rage quit. I got messed up by that death kerb, and it was all downhill from there.

Unpopular opinion: I know the new slipstream settings are "better", but it took all of the fun out of RBR.

I’d rather keep up/make a pass because I earned it, rather than because of the OP slipstream.

 

[The359]

Had two good races at RBR. Qualified 4th and 5th with no drafting help. First race I was battle with another Aston Martin for 2nd while a Mustang ran away with the lead. Ended up 3rd as I didn't conserve quite as much fuel as I needed.

Second race, worked my way from 5th to 2nd by picking cars off one at a time and was catching the leader but a slip up on the last corner dropped me back down to 3rd.

Had one more slot left and I feel that I could have managed a win, but decided to be conservative and stick with the points I got. After my Suzuka disaster I just needed good points.

Back into the Top 100 for both championships.

 

[theschledy]

I’d rather keep up/make a pass because I earned it, rather than because of the OP slipstream.

Maybe the issue was my car, but it seemed like some cars easily caught up in slipstream. It didn't feel like there was any slipstream in the Audi until you got to a breaking zone. It felt like I was breaking just as early as I would with the old slipstream. That was hard a little tricky to adjust to.

 

[Pigems]

Maybe the issue was my car, but it seemed like some cars easily caught up in slipstream. It didn't feel like there was any slipstream in the Audi until you got to a breaking zone. It felt like I was breaking just as early as I would with the old slipstream. That was hard a little tricky to adjust to.

Might be the car, I know the Jag has be a huge turd so far for me. I could usually get somewhere between #15-45 in FP time the past couple season and I can even get the Jag into the top 100 now. I may switch before signing with them on the Manu account.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Something has happened with the tire wear too, I used to run BB 3 in the Mustang to get even wear, yesterday on Spielberg I was between 0 and 1 with even wear.
But yes, the slipstream is very noticeable (lack of) but I personally like it.
Before yesterday I was ready to say goodbye to the FIA, but the races was clean for most and actually really fun. Too bad I suck at fuel saving AND that I didn't realize I needed to conserve before it was too late.

 

[Teppic24]

Nothing but problems in my race last night, and they all seemed to be caused by Porsches...

So I've decided to go with Jaguar after two seasons with McLaren. I'm DR-B, SR-S. But it’s a low B. One really bad race and I’m back in to DR-C, and I’ve heard scare stories about RBR being a punt-fest, and was in two minds about entering this event.

I missed out on Suzuka, so RBR was my first race of this season, and I was only able to do the 8pm slot. Practice had gone well, with me regularly hitting mid 1:30’s. I decide to enter, and I'm allocated door number 10.

Qualifying: Well, that was a disaster. My first flying lap was OK for about 3/4's of it, but then I encountered a slow Porsche that I couldn't get by, so I decided to abort the lap, back out of it and give myself a nice gap to try again. So I check the track map and decide that once the the Porsche has got past the first corner I would go for it. That should have been a big enough gap to a flying lap with no drama and no fear of catching anyone else up. I was easily on for a top 10 time when lo and behold 3/4's of the way round the lap I catch this same Porsche again, who decides he's going to block me whenever he can and then force me wide at the second to last corner. Over the kerb and white line I go, 0.500 penalty, which as it's my last lap gets rounded up to the full 1 second. I'm down in 19th. Thanks a bunch.

Race: Oh, I was enjoying that, right up until lap 9. Before then I had been making my way past the some people who had not taken cold tyres in to account (learnt from that mistake - decided to put TC to 2 for the first lap in order to at least keep me pointing in the right direction, before turning it off for the rest of the race). Some were running wide, spinning off and/or colliding with other racers. By the start of lap 9 I'm up to 10th. From 19th! Nice. And then I encounter two Porsches having their own battle, so I manage to pass both of them on the entry to turn 3. 10th to 8th! I'm really liking this. However... I think one of the Porsches didn't like the fact that he had been overtaken fair and square, and as I exit turn three there is a massive bump on my right rear, forcing me on to the grass and in to a spin, coming to a rest right next to the barrier. I got frustrated while trying to rejoin and managed to spin it round again! For a split-second I thought about rage quitting, but decided not to. I'm back to 19th, with only six and a half laps to go. 18th is 12 seconds up the road, but fortunately is not going particularly quickly, so I caught and dispatched him within two laps. A couple of cars were having a ding-dong battle up ahead, and I smiled as the both run wide allowing me to nip past. 16th. OK, not great, but making progress. And so that continued for another couple of laps, and entering the final lap I'm in 13th, which, from stone dead last with half the race gone, I was happy with. Coming up to turn 2 on the last lap and there is a Citroen in front of me who is going really slowly, perhaps on the verge of running out of fuel, so I'm able to nip past him with no drama and continue on to the flag. So 12th was my final position and a 200 point DR loss. I could have, and should have, finished much higher considering I was 8th until I was forced off the track.

 

[The359]

Maybe the issue was my car, but it seemed like some cars easily caught up in slipstream. It didn't feel like there was any slipstream in the Audi until you got to a breaking zone. It felt like I was breaking just as early as I would with the old slipstream. That was hard a little tricky to adjust to.

It may be that gearing is more of a factor now. The Aston was catching people like a bat out of hell at the top end compared to other cars that were slipstreaming.

 

[GTWolverine]

Just checked the standings and I'm still in the same exact spot in the North American overall rankings despite now having 34 more points than I did after Round 1. I've also fallen to 5th for Chevy after my brief time leading them. I'm so glad I don't have to be the fastest driver for this team anymore.

 

[chuyler1]

SR-A and below racing at RBR is just horrible. Normally I have an SR-S rating but some altercations at Spa the previous night dropped me down.

• Qualifying - I had a driver come out of the pits on lap 3 and divebomb me into T3... Really? you're not on a hot lap and you need to be in front of me?
• Race start - The obvious dive-bombs into the first few braking zones, which you really can't defend if you want to stay in the train.
• Battles - The braking points for T1 and T3 are so precise that drivers will lose 1-2 seconds trying to make a pass stick. Which means if another driver is 2 seconds back, uses their braking point, they fly into the corner and turn it into a bowling strike. I've been on both ends of this to the point where I just don't try anything on T1 when in a pack.
• Side by side - So you get the legit run on someone. Then they start hitting you, refusing share the track.

 

[HERE4BEER3]

I fell victim to PD's braindead "1 second penalty for getting divebombed" in my 1st attempt last night.

I was defending from 4 other drivers behind me on the last lap, then a guy 2 positions back dive bombs, punts me off to the side(not off track) and I get a 1 second penalty. So not only did I lose all those positions because of the aggressive divebomb, the 1 second penalty insures I can't get back with that group.

I'm so sorry PD, I was busy paying attention to the driver directly behind me. I did not anticipate the guy two positions back would go for a savage double overtake. But suppose by now I should anticipate these things.

I have learned my lesson, next time I will not take the turn and just drive straight off into the sand. Thanks for the racing lesson PD.

 

[rsrgse]

RBR was my first round this season and boy howdy was it a frustrating one. I signed with McLaren on a whim, I figured I'd try to drive something that I hadn't before to challenge myself and getting to grips with the 650S GT3 has certainly been that. My pace wasn't bad for the B/S level (low 1:30's) so I had a little confidence going into the races last night but not much practice. Jumped into the 5 PM EST race, qualified second, and got disconnected just after the first corner. Reality intervened so I stepped away for a bit before getting back on to practice before the 9 PM race. I qualified 15th after getting penalties on both flying laps, made my way up to 8th after the chaos of the first few laps only to get punted into oblivion by a fluorescent Z4 on the last corner of lap 10 and ended up finishing right back where I started. I wasn't satisfied with finishing 15th and knowing that I could do better I decided to try the race one last time in the late slot. I channeled that frustration and put the McLaren on pole with a 30.1. Settled into the race but couldn't break away from the Merc in 2nd and as my rear tires fell off a cliff things got closer. I was defending for my life from lap 11 onward and on the final lap going into T2, the Merc misjudged the braking, gave me a tap, and off I went. Wound up finishing 4th. C'est la vie, on to the next one.