FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[VulcanSpirit]

Could I do my tires in a different order? Like start on Hards and pit after the first lap? It’d be 1-8-5-5, in that case. (Or 1-3-5-5-5.)

EDIT: What about strategies for the Manufacturers Series race on Saturday as well?

Did 7S-8M-2H in a Manu test lobby yesterday with refuels at both stops (90-91% and 27-28% respectively). Ford GT feels sublime on softer compounds.

Total time: 30:15.871.

 

[Browneskii]

I'm personally finding softs can easily last until lap 10 or so at reasonable pace, however I'm probably going to do 8-9 on both medium and soft and then 1 on hard at the end.

Fuel in the Nissan for me seems to be a nice 11-12 laps with my driving style, so I know I'll save a bit in the pits compared to others as well. Looking forward to this one.

 

[Adam Barber]

I can get 6 laps out of the soft tyres with the newer GT-R. I personally prefer the way that it handles and feels like a better race car aswell. With 6 on the mediums and 1 on the hard tyres a 3 stop should hopefully see me through.

 

[Racerx_34]

My Kudosprime now registers a DNF for the first time,
thanks to the lobby kicking everyone when I tried the Manufacturers Race.

 

[Ashthebash]

I can get 6 laps out of the soft tyres with the newer GT-R. I personally prefer the way that it handles and feels like a better race car aswell. With 6 on the mediums and 1 on the hard tyres a 3 stop should hopefully see me through.

The '16 could well be a better race car with the tyre wear and thought of trying it myself, what always puts me off though is the amount of '08s that will be out there that have the one lap pace to out-qualify you.

My biggest problem at Catalunya though is Catalunya! Just not comfortable around there, especially the last chicane

 

[RacingGrandpa]

what always puts me off though is the amount of '08s that will be out there that have the one lap pace to out-qualify you

So qualify in the -08 and race in the newer

 

[Adam Barber]

So qualify in the -08 and race in the newer

Race pace is always preferable that qualifying pace imo as that is what actually counts.

 

[Ashthebash]

So qualify in the -08 and race in the newer

Not quite as simple as that in FIA races

Race pace is always preferable that qualifying pace imo as that is what actually counts.

It is but if you start 12th instead of say, 3rd because of the other quicker cars it gives you a lot of work to do, probably too much

In saying that I will try it out, it's more stable than the '08 and if that helps to get me consistency through the chicane then it'll make up for the loss in ultimate pace

Edit: Tested it... three stopper, clean run, no adventures through the chicane, no real fuel saving needed... nearly 15s slower than a seat of my pants run in the '08.

I'll risk crashing!

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Not quite as simple as that in FIA races


It is but if you start 12th instead of say, 3rd because of the other quicker cars it gives you a lot of work to do, probably too much

Of course, you are right. I wasn't thinking... It's a good thing you need to qualify in the car you race.
Better go try a few different in fp. Lexus too

 

[CurbHog]

Did a Lap Guide for Dragon Trail.
Not driving with the Yellow Cones I think is really the next step. It has freed me to find braking points intuitively instead.

 

[KosmoKazi]

I can get 6 laps out of the soft tyres with the newer GT-R. I personally prefer the way that it handles and feels like a better race car aswell. With 6 on the mediums and 1 on the hard tyres a 3 stop should hopefully see me through.

Is the older GTR that much harder on tires? Wondering as I was more comfortable in that one in the recent Daily Race, my only other experience with the Gr2 cars.

 

[KosmoKazi]

Did a Lap Guide for Dragon Trail.
Not driving with the Yellow Cones I think is really the next step. It has freed me to find braking points intuitively instead.

It’s the first thing I had to do, turn off the cones. I kept locking in on them instead of tracking ahead. I think they set up bad habits. I turn them on when I’m struggling to find a braking point once in a while. But then they have to go right back off. Surprised how many use them. Good drivers too.

 

[Adam Barber]

Is the older GTR that much harder on tires? Wondering as I was more comfortable in that one in the recent Daily Race, my only other experience with the Gr2 cars.

Newer cars are better on older tyres, old cars just understeer after a few laps from my experience.

 

[twodogsgolden]

Anyone do any testing with the Merc for the manufacture race?

From what I read here the strategy is to try and run softs 6 laps ea and pit 3 times.

Sorry - new to GT sport manufacture series racing.

 

[Ashthebash]

Anyone do any testing with the Merc for the manufacture race?

From what I read here the strategy is to try and run softs 6 laps ea and pit 3 times.

Sorry - new to GT sport manufacture series racing.

I'm in the Merc and planning one stint on softs - probably seven laps - and a two stopper (7-9-2 or 7-10-1). Unless you're really hard on your tyres you'll struggle to make up the time lost from the extra pit stop.

Of course - this is all open to change as and when I screw up qualifying!

 

[twodogsgolden]

I'm in the Merc and planning one stint on softs - probably seven laps - and a two stopper (7-9-2 or 7-10-1). Unless you're really hard on your tyres you'll struggle to make up the time lost from the extra pit stop.

Of course - this is all open to change as and when I screw up qualifying!

Gotcha, I think I made an error in my original post as I must not be able to do math, that should of been 2 stops.

Thank you though, looks to be like I am on the right course

 

[LVS_1986]

Hi Oceania friends! Anybody streaming FIA? Here in Poland is morning, Im drinking coffee and it would be pleasure to watch some racing doing it

 

[Redneckchef]

Hi Oceania friends! Anybody streaming FIA? Here in Poland is morning, Im drinking coffee and it would be pleasure to watch some racing doing it

Thinking of going on to try a manu race later,but no idea when it is. If you don't mind mediocrity I can throw it on. Also check out @Lion-Face as he seems to stream a bit of them, only he is good.

Will add link to this post if I decide to run it. A bit out of sorts today so could be bad.
Here goes. I have had no practice with either car on either track. 1 shot for it. Chaos here we come.

 

[milehighmadd]

Ran 4 practice races tonight for Manu. My best time with Porsche was running 11RM-6RS-1RH. No short shifting. Completely flat out.

Final time was 31:01.009 flawless outside of a 5s loss on the chicane 1 time.

Podium for top split likely sub 30:05 ... figure 30:15 and below for solid points. 30:45 likely podium for DR B.


EDIT - expect Ferrari to be near the top for this race.

 

[Redneckchef]

Ran 4 practice races tonight for Manu. My best time with Porsche was running 11RM-6RS-1RH. No short shifting. Completely flat out.

Final time was 31:01.009 flawless outside of a 5s loss on the chicane 1 time.

Podium for top split likely sub 30:05 ... figure 30:15 and below for solid points. 30:45 likely podium for DR B.


EDIT - expect Ferrari to be near the top for this race.

I'm about to enter, so no fuel saving needed at all? Crap. That was going to be only advantage while running the jag. It seems to have lost all its stability in tight corners, or I am just out of practice with it.

 

[Ashthebash]

Looking forward to today, had a nice little practice just and now just have the issue of telling the missus I'll be AWOL for most of the afternoon! I usually have an idea of how I expect to do though or where my pace stands, today I'm not really sure what's needed

I'm about to enter, so no fuel saving needed at all? Crap. That was going to be only advantage while running the jag. It seems to have lost all its stability in tight corners, or I am just out of practice with it.

Think @milehighmadd is just saying he pushed on every lap. Flat out fuel will probably last between 8 and 12 laps depending on your car

 

[VulcanSpirit]

I'm about to enter, so no fuel saving needed at all? Crap. That was going to be only advantage while running the jag. It seems to have lost all its stability in tight corners, or I am just out of practice with it.

I don't know... in the first two stints of my test lobbies, I had to make plenty of short shifts and map adjustments in the Ford so that my strategy could work....

 

[Lion-Face]

I had higher hopes for Dragons Trail Seaside....looks like the Ferrari may have gone backwards, just in time for the top 16 superstars!

 

[Redneckchef]

I don't know... in the first two stints of my test lobbies, I had to make plenty of short shifts and map adjustments in the Ford so that my strategy could work....

Ok. Well I will see how it goes. Going to head out for manu race since that's the only 1 I planned on running anyway. Stream still up if anyone is bored or wants a live test of the fuel saving. Don't plan on going all the way but so think I can jump some people if I harness the low end grunt right.

 

[milehighmadd]

I'm about to enter, so no fuel saving needed at all? Crap. That was going to be only advantage while running the jag. It seems to have lost all its stability in tight corners, or I am just out of practice with it.

No fuel saving on Porsche gave me my best time by 10s. Full rev to 100mph in 3rd, 147mph in 4th.

11 RM - 6 RS - 1 RH. Added fuel to allow for 10%/lap which is slightly more than flat out by 0.5% or so.

I had 2% left after 11 laps when I refueled after 1st stint through the end.

 

[Redneckchef]

No fuel saving on Porsche gave me my best time by 10s. Full rev to 100mph in 3rd, 147mph in 4th.

11 RM - 6 RS - 1 RH. Added fuel to allow for 10%/lap which is slightly more than flat out by 0.5% or so.

I had 2% left after 11 laps when I refueled after 1st stint through the end.

Eh, I don't have much raw speed so tried a touch of saving. Went for crap. Let myself get dived and barged a few times. Bounced the bus stop a couple of times. Just didnt drive well. Oh well. At least the SR went down for getting pushed wide and side hit.

 

[CarlosEVH]

No fuel saving on Porsche gave me my best time by 10s. Full rev to 100mph in 3rd, 147mph in 4th.

11 RM - 6 RS - 1 RH. Added fuel to allow for 10%/lap which is slightly more than flat out by 0.5% or so.

I had 2% left after 11 laps when I refueled after 1st stint through the end.

So, flatout and only a refuel after 1st stint? I'll go with Porsche this season but I don't have time to practice more than time attack a few laps, so I'll take your strategy on the first race.

 

[milehighmadd]

Eh, I don't have much raw speed so tried a touch of saving. Went for crap. Let myself get dived and barged a few times. Bounced the bus stop a couple of times. Just didnt drive well. Oh well. At least the SR went down for getting pushed wide and side hit.

Bummer. Hope you slay the next one.

@CarlosEVH I chose Porsche specifically for Gr3 only and did practice Seaside a ton. For this race, full rev if out of slip/draft and/or short shift 75% to maintain pace from driver below you. Anytime, I saw someone gain on me, I went flat out to prevent them gaining further.

Bottomline, not worrying about fuel yielded higher confidence; one less thing to worry about.

 

[SweatyC]

Ok so feel pretty disappointed with that!

Qualified 7th and decided to start on Softs as near the front. Was a lot quicker than some in front who were maybe on Mediums. I was up into 2nd at one point for a lap before falling back to 3rd. Stayed there until lap 8 where tire grip suddenly fell off and I was losing time. Then got purposely punted off by a Porsche who had just done the same to an NSX behind me the lap before. Pitted in 8th for Hards and then pitted again next lap for Mediums and fuel.

Then it just got ugly. First I was victim of the chicane of death on cold Mediums and lost a couple of places and then after that had some clown behind me constantly flashing his lights and then turned into me to run me off at the esses and gave me a 1 second penalty for it?! I think I stayed out 1 lap too many on the Softs. Would have at least avoided getting putted off when running in 3rd. Red S too the game blaming me for being pushed off!

So was an S8/H1/M9. Not going again!

 

[Redneckchef]

Bummer. Hope you slay the next one.

@CarlosEVH I chose Porsche specifically for Gr3 only and did practice Seaside a ton. For this race, full rev if out of slip/draft and/or short shift 75% to maintain pace from driver below you. Anytime, I saw someone gain on me, I went flat out to prevent them gaining further.

Bottomline, not worrying about fuel yielded higher confidence; one less thing to worry about.

Eh, it was all right, just think I used up all my good moves doing Nations. Had some nice cut backs there. For manu I just didnt have raw speed so tried to trick my way up. Didnt work and twice i rear ended someone dead slow that cod have gained me at least 1 spot but I just couldn't get clear enough. Didnt drive defensively enough. All the sweet stuff I succeeded with in the nation's race. Oh well. I go again sometime next week maybe.

Good luck later you EMEA and NA kids