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Took the GT3RS for a spin and in 2 laps I beat my quickest time set by the SF-R. It's more unstable than the SF-R, but it's certainly controllable and won't try to kill you like the X-Bow will. I set a lap 1.5s faster than my SF-R time with room to improve, and since I don't have much more practice time I'm going to lock it in.


I started making mistakes in the later stages but I'm having a lot of fun driving the GT but that xbow gaps me .200 every straight but I catch a little back in the corners just not enough! I think it'll be competitive tomorrow but I ain't winning, lol. Good to see y'all!

Same haha, I just can't get a grip on the X-Bow. At least you're competitive though! Here's to hoping all the X-Bows spin out lol.
 
Took the GT3RS for a spin and in 2 laps I beat my quickest time set by the SF-R. It's more unstable than the SF-R, but it's certainly controllable and won't try to kill you like the X-Bow will. I set a lap 1.5s faster than my SF-R time with room to improve, and since I don't have much more practice time I'm going to lock it in.




Same haha, I just can't get a grip on the X-Bow. At least you're competitive though! Here's to hoping all the X-Bows spin out lol.

I'm counting on a few xbows leaving the track tomorrow and I think I can pull away from the SF-R the Porsche seems neck and neck with the Ford GT same weight and horsepower.

The thing that keeps getting me is the track limits there, it seems like there aren't any and if I don't use that advantage I lose quite a bit of time.

Not often you get to drive a car you truly love to drive in Sport Mode. I'll be out there tomorrow with the Joey Hand livery! Cushioned my DR today so if I lose oh well.
 
:rolleyes: disco'd...

15 minutes before entering, i cleared cache. turned PS4 completely off. Restarted with 8 minutes to go. Entered the room. Players load screen is up. Wasn't frozen. After about 30 seconds, just disco'd. That's wack. If I can get into the 1740, I'll run the Cobra.
 
:rolleyes: disco'd...

15 minutes before entering, i cleared cache. turned PS4 completely off. Restarted with 8 minutes to go. Entered the room. Players load screen is up. Wasn't frozen. After about 30 seconds, just disco'd. That's wack. If I can get into the 1720, I'll run the Cobra.

That Cobra is one of my favorite cars to drive. Go for it! Might turn into a tandem drift at some point, lol. I've been having a lot of disconnects since the update where we got the new Mazda not sure what they did but I've never been disconnected so much.
 
That Cobra is one of my favorite cars to drive. Go for it! Might turn into a tandem drift at some point, lol. I've been having a lot of disconnects since the update where we got the new Mazda not sure what they did but I've never been disconnected so much.
I haven't been disconnected in a good while.
 
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Two of the biggest surprises were the Citroen(I never ever drove it). Gearing is perfectly matched to the power delivery. Smooth to drive and has slight rotation, at low speed, to aid in cornering. Easy. Next, the Countach. Felt WAAAYYYY faster than that time. Has the best steering in pointing the nose to the apex. Weird one.

I love my whales! First time I drove a Citroen I knew right then that they were my goto cars. A little slow on the straights but I like the cornering. Somehow they seem to match my driving style. Now if i could only get my time down to match yours (you are 2 seconds faster than my best) I would be super happy for this weekends races. I am running Citroens in both Nations and Manufacture's Cup races.

Have a good weekend racing!
 
Had my best result ever in Manufacturers in the Lambo, coming 2nd. Great fight with a McLaren for all 8 laps, we qualified 1 and 2 and barely a 1 second difference whole Race. Was B/S lobby.
Nations was dominated by the Porsches, I just wasn't fast enough in the SFR. But one did come 5th, I came in 10th. Only 2 Xbows in the race.
 
Caved in like a sucka and did the Manu. Look what finished P1. Love these long laps. Love all St Croix layouts.

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The whole field but me, one of the Atenzas and a 650S, started on RMs and pit end of Lap 7 .

I ran 4 RH/4RM. Caught the NSX and Cayman for passes on Lap 7 & Lap 8.

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Edit: Started 19/20. The other Cobra left after a couple laps. At least I classified a finisher, with 8 seconds to go. 4 seconds behind an S-FR that served a penalty at the line.
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Caved in like a sucka and did the Manu. Look what finished P1. Love these long laps. Love all St Croix layouts.

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The whole field but me, one of the Atenzas and a 650S, started on RMs and pit end of Lap 7 .

I ran 4 RH/4RM. Caught the NSX and Cayman for passes on Lap 7 & Lap 8.

I'm in
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Edit: Started 19/20. The other Cobra left after a couple laps. At least I classified a finisher, with 8 seconds to go. 4 seconds behind an S-FR that served a penalty at the line.
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Did you keep pace ok on hards in Manu? Someone has sewn the seed... of a no-stop.

Got to be close thinking about it
 
Intel from top split Nations regarding car choice (though more like 1.5 split due to lack of top drivers in bottom half):

911 GT3 - fastest over one lap, but race pace declines due to tyre wear (down to half by the end). A little fuel saving required (some people ran out near the end). Good brakes and acceleration, but understeers in high speed corners due to 0/200 downforce.

XBOW - slightly slower than 911 GT3 over one lap, but better race pace IF you can handle the twitchiness. No issues with tyre/fuel at all. A bit worse brakes/acceleration but high speed corners are its forte due to 200/300 downforce. Also I find the gearing a bit awkward for the downhill chicane so it can be inconsistent thru there.

F40 (my choice) - the dark horse (pun intended). Slightly slower one lap pace compared to two above, BUT combines the XBOW's tyre life and the 911 GT3's handling safety (relatively speaking, there are easier cars but they're much slower). Neutral handling in slow corners and only a hint of understeer in high speed stuff. The gearing is also quite long so you can save time shifting less by just leaving it in higher gears (also acts as in built TC from the slow corners). I qualified 15th-ish and climbed up to 9th, thanks to people in XBOWs going sbinalla, 911s running out of fuel and the usual demo derby casualties :p

SFR - the safest choice handling wise, but the slowest in terms of speed. Useless when it falls out of draft and if you mess up the downhill chicane, you lose so much momentum going up the hill you will fall like a rock. Probably a good choice in lower split rooms, just play it safe and wait for others to mess up.

Other choices I tested - F50, Ford GT 2017, Citroen GT - they're all very safe to drive, but the laptime is just too slow. Having said that, Nik Makozi handicapped himself using the Citroen and still finished 2nd. It was a hard fought race though, and I have no doubt if he used the 911/XBOW he would've finished miles ahead.

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Manu is an interesting one. We don't race often at St Croix and it shows because I qualified higher than usual :lol: All I can say is slipstream is critical, but don't start the lap too close or you run the risk of running into each other because of the long lap. The key here is knowing which corners to take early apex, and which to late apex. It can be tricky because looking at the map they all look like identical 90 degree turns, but each have their own personality. It's a bit hard to pick up from watching replays as well, you just gotta drive enough laps to "feel" which is which.

Strategy wise, on paper 1 stop (7M+1H) is faster. HOWEVER, if you're on Hards and you manage to stick to slipstream and avoid battles while the Medium runners all trip over each other, you can juuuuust pipe them on the final lap as they come out of the pits. In my race an NSX started 3rd, no stopped, fell back to 8/9th in the race and passed our group (which had been battling all race long) just as we came out of the pits to take 3rd again. It's really tight though. You just gotta make sure you're within the 8 seconds pit stop time loss.

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Another thing after the update, the reduced collision "pinball effects" definitely makes it a bit easier to run door-to-door. In a way it's good because small touches here and there don't mean instant death, but on the other hand people will see this as invitation to be more aggressive. The line between hard racing and straight up punting becomes a bit blurred. It's okay if you're racing against clean people, but IMO it doesn't really change anything if someone is dirty because the penalty system is still too lenient most of the time.
 
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Great race and very pleased with the result. Just wish I hadn’t screwed up qualifying!

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Was running with a time that would have put me 5th in Qualifying until the last left hander of the lap where I hadn’t noticed the cones had been moved a bit further up the track so I ended up in the barrier and had to stick with 13th!! I felt confident I’d do well here so was disappointed having to start back there.

Spent the race working my up through the field. A couple of cars peeled off to pit end of lap 3. I was running 7th for rest of the race until we all came in for Hards end of lap 7. The 2 cars that had pitted end of lap 3 shot past as I exited the pits. One of them picked up a penalty just after the bridge and the other crashed on the last left hander putting me back into 7th :) Finally made it to DR A too! :cheers:
 
Did you keep pace ok on hards in Manu? Someone has sewn the seed... of a no-stop.

Got to be close thinking about it
Yes and no. Cars ahead were getting into one another. That kept me in the mix. It also allowed the lead GT-R to build a nice cushion. I was tempted to keep going, but an Atenza was closing in after it pit. I figured it'd be worth a shot to switch.

Paid off as the NSX pit Lap 7 and the Cayman was losing grip at a few spots. It locked up a bit into the ess/chicane, after the back "straight".
I pulled away from the Atenza that finished behind the NSX. It was a casualty at the start.

The NSX, Cayman, Genesis, M4 and Atenza qualified ahead of me.

I qualified on the RH and was 4 seconds slower than P1. So, that tells you alot right there.
 
My first attempt at Nations suffered a "disconnect" as in I did the qualifying and then my PS4 decides it's too hot today and turns itself off. That event cost me 1600 DR :lol: So I furiously rip the (launch day) console apart and blow out all the dust ready for the 2nd slot.

This went much better. Qualified 3rd with @SmokeyMR2 starting in 12th. The leader makes a gap for themselves but on lap 4 bins it at 130R while P2 simultaneously has a big wobbly moment. This was a near copy of what happened to me on the last lap at Spa as I ALMOST missed the braking point with the drama around me being pretty distracting, but manage to get it stopped in time.



After that Lando in the lead slowly pulls away and I pull away from P3. This allowed me to drive within myself and just look after the tyres to bring home my first podium in a really really long time.

Massive shout out to @SmokeyMR2 for moving up from 12th to 5th. I watched the replay and you really played the sensible game of keeping out of trouble and never forcing any overly ambitious moves, and it really paid off. There was a fair amount of chaos going on so was particularly impressive. Good save when you put a wheel wide at 130R too :)

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Bit late replying bud but thanks, there was a lot of carnage but I'd already decided I just wanted a clean and calm race so avoided any trouble but yeah that 130R moment was nearly death :lol:

Well earned P2 for you bud, great drive & quali :cheers:
 
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One thing I didn't plan on for this monster is fuel consumption. After two laps flat out I had drained a quarter of the tank so I was on fuel saving for the rest of the race. Didn't need to stop, and got tangled up in some morons at the back - was overtaken on the straights endlessly but could work past the idiots in the corners. Still, glad I did it. Good laugh.
 
As promised I used the Ford F-150 in the first slot :lol: When the lobby loaded I discovered that, sadly, I was the only one in a Looney wagon. Everyone else was in X-Bows or 911s, except for two S-FRs. Anyway, qualified 20th with a lap time of 1:50.162, but the guy in front was only 0.3 seconds away. Pole position had a 1:45.333.

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When the race started I immediately realized that I would have to stop for fuel - this pickup is one thirsty boi! :cheers: But more on that later. Initially the other cars began to pull away but come the corners some players made mistakes immediately. I had already gained 3 positions after the second hairpin. Lost a position on the final corner to start the 2nd lap in 18th. Then at the same spot as in lap 1 I collected another X-Bow to claim back 17th. Two guys went off at the exit of the following chicane to gift me 15th. I also went past a 911 that had been slowed down by the incident -14th. After the next long right hander there was another X-Bow rejoining slowly so I went up one more position. In lap 3 there was yet another X-Bow facing the wrong way after the big chicane, so I claimed 12th, but soon fell back to 14th again due to faster people recovering from their incidents.

During the next few laps I came back at 12th but fell back to 14th again where i finally settled down. What really made me scratch my head is that despite the tremendous weight of about 2 tons I was matching the other cars in the corners :confused: I was just being outclassed on the straights.

Since I knew my fuel wouldn't last I briefly thought about fuelsaving but that would have cost me much more time than filling up a bit and snatching a new set of tyres along the away. The front left one was suffering especially badly from lugging all that weight around. My pit stop in lap 8 took about 6 seconds and lost me 3 positions. However thanks to the fresh rubber (okay, and people crashing out :p) I was able to make back 2 of those positions. Finished 14th while failing to cross the finish line :lol:

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Next race I'm in the AMG GT S :)

edit: Here's the replay

 
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Not sure yet but I feel St Croix could be a decent combo for the Gr.4 Nissan. If this hasn't been done by now, lower the brake balance to around +1 to +3. Sounds crazy but I realized a while back that max rear brakes was making my entries far too inconsistent. Once I dialed it down, car was better to drive and my tire wear was about the same. For St Croix, the wide track means you can lower the steering angle and wait for the nose to rotate before you mash the throttle.
Usually, this would be the route but I would prioritize staying in slipstream above all else. The hards are atrocious because of the low tire wear and the requirement's probably there only to help the FF cars.
Good advice, this. I can't say I'm good/precise enough to notice the finer differences, but it seemed a bit less prone to taking straight lines rather than curves through the corners at +3.

That didn't stop me from getting divebombed on the first lap and going from 8th to 13th, but I got back to 8th eventually and finished there. Keep the slipstream in this race, whatever you do.
 
Good advice, this. I can't say I'm good/precise enough to notice the finer differences, but it seemed a bit less prone to taking straight lines rather than curves through the corners at +3.

That didn't stop me from getting divebombed on the first lap and going from 8th to 13th, but I got back to 8th eventually and finished there. Keep the slipstream in this race, whatever you do.
There was a Polish chap in a GT-R who fell off during the first lap. From thereon it was apparently no holds barred racing for him - dived up my inside twice, having fallen off the track shortly after the first one - and rejoined aiming straight at the apex with three cars next to him...

Don't know why I did a Gr.4 race, but 11th is an excellent result and I'm not going again. 1H/7M after qualifying 18th (another Atenza behind me), leapt up past the last-lap pitters and track faller-offers.
 
There was a Polish chap in a GT-R who fell off during the first lap. From thereon it was apparently no holds barred racing for him - dived up my inside twice, having fallen off the track shortly after the first one - and rejoined aiming straight at the apex with three cars next to him...

Don't know why I did a Gr.4 race, but 11th is an excellent result and I'm not going again. 1H/7M after qualifying 18th (another Atenza behind me), leapt up past the last-lap pitters and track faller-offers.
I followed him in qualifying hoping he would be faster than he was

You neglect to mention you beat an Alfa by .04 of a second. If you'd been out-dragged by that you would have been as well retiring from the game.
 
I followed him in qualifying hoping he would be faster than he was

You neglect to mention you beat an Alfa by .04 of a second. If you'd been out-dragged by that you would have been as well retiring from the game.
Yeah, he was really weird. Had me straight off the track at that weird left in the village, and kept running into the back of me at the start of the straight-ish there. I made him go outside in the final corner and though he overcooked his entry speed I thought I'd let it go... but the Atenza is faster in a straight line than that one car now, so sucks to be him.

Edit: I nearly got taken out by an orange Porsche who was coming out of the pits (on hards) and steamed into the first corner while I was in the process of taking it. I had already passed him on my radar, and there were blue flags, but apparently that didn't matter.

I checked and he was the ****bean who hit my twice on my qualy lap, so I didn't feel so bad. Leave more space dude, I'm not obliged to get out of your way simply because you're going quicker.
 
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Used the X-Bow myself as it was fastest and after some practice and BB at -3 was fine for me all race.

Qualifying went well for once, a couple of good laps in clean air put me in P6 0.451 off the GT3 RS on pole and 0.250 of P2.

A good opening lap left me in P5. The Toyota starting behind was a blessing as they started fighting with a Few X-Bows let me built up a healthy gap in just a few laps. I just concentrated on putting in clean laps and around lap 5 caught the car in 4h as the car in 3rd made mistake at the esses and slowed 4th down aswell promoting me to 3rd. The X-Bow that went of and the 911 ahead did manage to catch back up and after a couple of forceful moves at the second chicane was in 5th again. The X-Bow ahead was starting to get increasing scruffy however and on lap 9 or 10 went off at the esses and quit. From there on it was a quiet race for 4th which is no bad thing. Lobby was dominated by X-Bows with 2 Porsches, 3 S-FR racing concepts (more stable but not as fast) and A mad man in a Diablo, fair to say they were at the back the whole race. On a side note keeping the car in higher gears through the corners, No lower than 3rd, really kept the car stable without compromising on pace.

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Wasn't expecting anything coming onto this race with the Ferrari and even less so after seeing the grid stacked with power cars and me in car #18.

Qualifying was fine, held up by an Alfa lap 1 and no slipstream lap 2 left me in 14th, not bad considering no slipstream in a non power car.

The start of the race went well picking up a couple of spots as people pitted early from the hard tyre. On the second lap I managed to stay with a Jag for a couple of laps in its slipstream where it passed a Mustang leaving me behind that. Lap 4/5 and I made a small error making contact with a barrier, fortunately no places lost, however leaving me slipstream-less losing about a second a lap to that Mustang ahead.


That left me in 9th until lap 6 where a brief battle with an early stopping GT-R for a couple of laps. The end lap 7 came where I pitted for hard tyres only losing one place to an early stopping Citroen of all cars and came home in 10th. Happy with that result all things considered how the odds looked stacked against me at the start.

 
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Qualified 10th. Didn’t feel like I could have gone much faster so satisfied with that.

Had made it up to 8th after a couple of laps. Ended up being in a group of 3 with a Lambo and a Toyota as we lost the tow of the leading pack. Swapping between 7th and 9th with the Toyota being quite aggressive, picking up at least 2 small penalties for barging the Lambo. Couldn’t quite lose him each time he served them.

Lap 7 we all duck into the pits apart from the Lambo who must have been on a no stopper! Came out the pits in 8th but made a small mistake losing a place and that’s how it finished.
 
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