FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[SweatyC]

First race as a DR A in an all A lobby. Qualified 11th without a tow which I was happy with.

Good close race for the most part. Moved up to 9th after a couple of laps. Half way through there was an incident in the middle part of the circuit where we got a bit bunched up and someone in front got punted off deliberately. The victim took his anger out on the wrong driver after the race! Ran in 7th for a couple of laps but couldn’t keep the position. Pretty happy bringing the Viper home in 8th.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Highlights from 1st manufacturers and nations.

Racing hard to move from 5th to 3rd;



6th to 1st in Nations;

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Sooo....the Atenza reaches 253-254 km/h with no draft at Interlagos, while my Slowbaru barely reaches that with full draft the whole straight Painful race is an understatement. It's very good in the infield but when everyone is blocking and divebombing you like their lives depended on it, you just cannot pull enough gap to survive the main straight.

0.5 sec can make a big difference in quali. Sure, the driver is the main factor in lap time, but that doesn’t mean you can’t try to squeeze out a little more from the car. I tried Mistah MCA’s tune and beat my previous best by 0.7 sec. My current best in time trial is 2:22.4. Hopefully I can finish 10th or better in the race.

In a top split lobby where everyone is evenly matched then yes, 0.5 sec is significant. I was referring more to people in DR B lobbies and lower, who might be stressing out over which tune to use. At that level, more gains could be had from improving your lines and consistency. Also with the way slipstream is on this track, even if you pull out 0.5 sec in the twisty bits someone with default tune will still be able to catch up easily on the main straight.

Too many mistakes, dropped out of the tow, kept making mistakes, then got pit manouvered on the final corner of the race and dropped 8 positions... just top split things.

Almost better to just be disconnected and not race altogether yeah? That's how every race in second split Manu plays out these days

Honestly, I think reducing the pinball collision has made people even more brazen when it comes to divebombing. It's an art form to nudge people enough to make them go off, but not hard enough to trigger contact penalty.

 

[Redneckchef]

Time to take my decrepit toothless old dog of a jag out for a beating at Interlagos. Does that count as animal cruelty?

Edit. Short story, started p13, ended p11 or 12. Honestly cant remember already. Long story, typical Interlagos 🤬 show. Spins and madness at the start, I get SR downs for cars spinning through the pack and hitting me. No ones fault, but a load of BS. Get bombed twice by a Scooby who gets mad when I defend. So I get DR downs for them rear ending me. Side slams while giving someone space on the straight. Seriously, what is going on with the people in my lobbies? This was an SR S lobby. Now I am an A. I did earn a contact on 2 spots, both not thinking someone could catch me or turn in where they got me and I bumped them. Of course I get a penalty for bumping them on the way in but when they run me all the way off on exit it is all good.

Not sure if it is worth a run at the Fugu. My SR is getting hammered constantly right now.

On the plus side, the villain from the Big Williw race was in this one, hit me.multiple times, but finished p19. Not enough karma, but have to take it when I can.

 

[LVS_1986]

Time to take my decrepit toothless old dog of a jag out for a beating at Interlagos. Does that count as animal cruelty?

Edit. Short story, started p13, ended p11 or 12. Honestly cant remember already. Long story, typical Interlagos 🤬 show. Spins and madness at the start, I get SR downs for cars spinning through the pack and hitting me. No ones fault, but a load of BS. Get bombed twice by a Scooby who gets mad when I defend. So I get DR downs for them rear ending me. Side slams while giving someone space on the straight. Seriously, what is going on with the people in my lobbies? This was an SR S lobby. Now I am an A. I did earn a contact on 2 spots, both not thinking someone could catch me or turn in where they got me and I bumped them. Of course I get a penalty for bumping them on the way in but when they run me all the way off on exit it is all good.

Not sure if it is worth a run at the Fugu. My SR is getting hammered constantly right now.

On the plus side, the villain from the Big Williw race was in this one, hit me.multiple times, but finished p19. Not enough karma, but have to take it when I can.

Im using Jag too and think its strong on Interlagos. Or maybe Im strong on Interlagos. Last time in gr3 race I got my highest score of 124pts so today hopes are high... Bad and good thing is today I planned barbeque with friends and a lot of beer, so only got time for 2 slots 1620 and 1900... Today is so hot in Poland and I gotta mow a loan... Got 4 hours to do all preparations plus raise my SR before Manu... I dont know if Ican do it all

Edit: and what Im doing? Reading a forum about virtual racing

 

[Baka_Marimo]

Ugh, I wish the tune was fixed for today's Nation's Cup race in Tokyo so that the driving would be the sole decisive factor. I don't see any problems with the standard gearbox though and the stock tune feels just fine so I'm not gonna bother changing anything. Best lap so far is a 2:21.725, still with room for improvement. Those fast sweeping bends are gonna make or break your qualifying time.

 

[Redneckchef]

Decided to go with fugu anyway.shouldnt have bothered. 1 A driver, about 6 B drivers. As many points to win as about p15 or p16 in my usual lobby. Thanks tanked SR. Still have to do well though to get anything. Just checked. If I win it sti wouldnt be enough to count for my points score. Only a good chance to lose SR thanks to all those walls.

 

[Rangeraus]

Almost better to just be disconnected and not race altogether yeah?

Nah... I ran again and won in slot 2 for about 250ish points.

Earlier in the season I usually had a substandard first race then disconnected from every race after that... at least now I am reasonably confident I can run again if it doesn't go to plan.

As the season goes on the drop-off in later slots is becoming very noticeable. Slot 2 for manufacturers was worth less than P6 in slot 1 for top split races.

 

[05XR8]

Got 2nd at Nations. Behind ShiftingGears. Others in the top five were fighting to overtake and I'm thinking, "Work together! He's getting away!".

 

[Pigems]

Did a practice nations lobby race. It's soooo fun. Awesome combo PD.

Sweet, hopefully I’ll see you out there tonight.

 

[stpatty]

Anyone got a link to the tune for the Fugu? I think it's been about eight years since I tried to set-up a car in a video game, so I might be a bit out of practice.

 

[Redneckchef]

Got 2nd at Nations. Behind ShiftingGears. Others in the top five were fighting to overtake and I'm thinking, "Work together! He's getting away!".

Similar situation. Everyone in my dumper lobby wanted to pass RIGHT NOW. So the one person who escaped before the chicane on lap 2 just drove into the distance.

Got p5 after starting p3 in my lobby after 2 guys put me into the wall about 4 times. Of course I got the penalties when they were handed out. Only 2 1 sec ones which I could kind of recover from. Several side swipes, and of course the fun punts into turn 1. It was a fun combo, but needs a good group of drivers. I was quite fast for my lobby, but the slipstream is ridiculous when they can close up pretty much a second and pass you on the straight. Makes getting away from bombers hard.

Thus ends my night of getting my cars bashed in by everything. Hope you all have good races.

 

[Pigems]

Anyone got a link to the tune for the Fugu? I think it's been about eight years since I tried to set-up a car in a video game, so I might be a bit out of practice.

I got a 19.7 with this one so far, it’s @praiano63 ’s suspension with my diff and gearbox. I’m gonna try @Mistah_MCA ’s next.

Edit: MCA’s is better, 19.4 already with it. 👍

 

[stpatty]

I got a 19.7 with this one so far, it’s @praiano63 ’s suspension with my diff and gearbox. I’m gonna try @Mistah_MCA ’s next.

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Edit: MCA’s is better, 19.4 already with it. 👍

managed a 21.7 with yours, that sounds about right relative to our skill levels

 

[ShiftingGears]

Last race of the night- Third to first on the last corner of the race.

Got 2nd at Nations. Behind ShiftingGears. Others in the top five were fighting to overtake and I'm thinking, "Work together! He's getting away!".

I appreciated the bump draft earlier in the race, the guy in front was certainly...robust in his defense. Not surprised that the pack started slowing each other up.



Was a good scrap though. Great car and track.

 

[Pigems]

managed a 21.7 with yours, that sounds about right relative to our skill levels

Nice! Try MCA‘S for sure though, I just knocked .9 off my tune with his, down to 18.8 now.

 

[SlowDriver87]

Here’s me complaining about the Gr4 SLS AMG and someone has posted the 4th or 5th fastest practice time at Interlagos with it

 

[ASH32]

Here’s me complaining about the Gr4 SLS AMG and someone has posted the 4th or 5th fastest practice time at Interlagos with it

It's ok everywhere without being the best anywhere as far as I know, certainly no where near bad, it's a lot better than the Vantage for starters.

Best Gr4 cars (with no tyre wear) at Interlagos used to be Mazda, Ford and Chevy, then there were a load of a similar pace where the Merc sat. Some slow cars were good too until the race where you got murdered and pushed all over the place by the power cars but this was a long time ago and many updates and BOP changes have happened since.

Still apart from the 4C and Trophy, I'd imagine what used to work well will be competitive. I do think (without any recent testing or leaderboard watching) the Mazda could be OP here if it does not wreck it's tyres as much now and/or the multiplier is low enough.

To everyone racing try to have fun even with the penalty system being bad.

 

[Ashthebash]

Here’s me complaining about the Gr4 SLS AMG and someone has posted the 4th or 5th fastest practice time at Interlagos with it

He is a bit quick though! Plus, as time trialling doesn't get you a grid position not everyone will have done that particular practice to their maximum. What I can say about the SLS is it's not the quickest over a lap but it's handy enough. The lobbies I've seen, the Mustang is an absolute beast up the hill but if you're of a similar pace you'll be all over the back of it towards the end of the race

It's ok everywhere without being the best anywhere as far as I know

This is my view of it. I'd never driven the Gr.4 Merc until this series began but I do really like it, it's always fairly decent even if it's not the standout car anywhere

 

[SlowDriver87]

It's ok everywhere without being the best anywhere as far as I know, certainly no where near bad, it's a lot better than the Vantage for starters.

Best Gr4 cars (with no tyre wear) at Interlagos used to be Mazda, Ford and Chevy, then there were a load of a similar pace where the Merc sat. Some slow cars were good too until the race where you got murdered and pushed all over the place by the power cars but this was a long time ago and many updates and BOP changes have happened since.

Still apart from the 4C and Trophy, I'd imagine what used to work well will be competitive. I do think (without any recent testing or leaderboard watching) the Mazda could be OP here if it does not wreck it's tyres as much now and/or the multiplier is low enough.

To everyone racing try to have fun even with the penalty system being bad.

Is the Megane Trophy a lot slower now? It seemed to be the go to Gr4 car for ages. I tried it at Dragon Trail Seaside for the Nations Cup and it was well off the pace of the TT, RCZ and even the RCF.

Yeah I hope everyone has a better time than they did at Willow Springs. I binned myself two races in a row on the last lap there and lost 4th and 6th place finishes. So I’m glad there’s at least some run offs this time around!

He is a bit quick though! Plus, as time trialling doesn't get you a grid position not everyone will have done that particular practice to their maximum. What I can say about the SLS is it's not the quickest over a lap but it's handy enough. The lobbies I've seen, the Mustang is an absolute beast up the hill but if you're of a similar pace you'll be all over the back of it towards the end of the race


This is my view of it. I'd never driven the Gr.4 Merc until this series began but I do really like it, it's always fairly decent even if it's not the standout car anywhere

Yeah I don’t expect to be anywhere near him. Usually my rule of thumb is if I can get between 1.5 - 2.5 seconds off the best time depending on track length then I’m happy with that. My best time is 1.9 seconds off his which could be a lot worse I suppose.

I’ve just done a practice race with it like a few of you more experienced heads have been doing, and managed to consistently do high 1:40s/low 1:41s. I’m happy enough with that. I’m feeling more comfortable with the car and it performs consistently through the laps. I’ve just gone up to DR A so hopefully I’ve done enough to be competitive.

 

[The_Tullster]

Moral of the story, unless you're already an alien and looking for that extra few tenths, focus on your driving technique

I second this. I ran P6 > P2 and at least one of the drivers I passed was uncompetitive because he was running a razors edge qualifying tune in the race and didn't have the skill to keep the car under control under race conditions. If you're not near alien standard it may be better in race to have a fastish stable setup rather than the fastest setup availalble, especially with the wall penalties to deal with.
I ran suspension stock except for 0.10 towards toe-out front and rear and did nothing to the gear box except switch to "Fully customisable". It was giving me 160 - 163mph at the T1 braking zone in clean air and up to 167mph with draft.

 

[MIE1992]

I might just do the Manufacturers Series race tonight. I'm not too sure about having time to do both that, and the Nation Cup race. I just like the idea of Gr.4 at Interlagos a decent amount more than the setup for the Nations Cup race tonight.

 

[ShiftingGears]

I got a 19.7 with this one so far, it’s @praiano63 ’s suspension with my diff and gearbox. I’m gonna try @Mistah_MCA ’s next.

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Edit: MCA’s is better, 19.4 already with it. 👍

That suspension tune is fantastic for the race. Really allows you to handle the cornering by getting on the throttle early and letting the car drift.

Not sure what the gearbox tune going around was, but someone in the last race I did had an absolute missile of a car. They were so fast off the rolling start they jumped four places before the braking zone at turn 1.

 

[Pigems]

That suspension tune is fantastic for the race. Really allows you to handle the cornering by getting on the throttle early and letting the car drift.

Not sure what the gearbox tune going around was, but someone in the last race I did had an absolute missile of a car. They were so fast off the rolling start they jumped four places before the braking zone at turn 1.

Which one did you end up using?

 

[stpatty]

Shambolic penalty system strikes again. I divebomb a guy at the last corner and he gets 2 seconds. Why is this the way the system works? Why is the puntee always the one at fault?

 

[ShiftingGears]

Which one did you end up using?

I used one that wasn't published - it was longer than stock so I was hitting about 245kph (~152 mph) over the start line but got to about 270kph (165mph) approaching turn 1, from memory.

It was a net gain compared to the stock set-up, but whatever set-up this guy had, also allowed the same top speed to be hit, and had better acceleration everywhere. It was just phenomenal.

 

[Baka_Marimo]

Nice! Try MCA‘S for sure though, I just knocked .9 off my tune with his, down to 18.8 now.

I retract on what I said earlier. I lowered my laptime from a 2:21.725 to a 2:20.343 thanks to this tune. It really sucks that it makes such a huge difference. I have no idea how to set up a car for racing and would've fared much worse had I not used this setup. I guess it's not so bad though if there's guides like this out there, so I subscribed to this guy's channel. It improves the handling of the car to such an extent that it allows you to get back to the inside of the corner even if you turn in too late while still maintaining full throttle (The long left hander after the first two corners).

I didn't bother going for the slipstream in qualifying as it happens way too often that I catch up to the car in front and end up losing time. By lapping on my own I initially took pole position by almost a second but then had it snatched away by 0.151 seconds at the end. Started from 2nd, slipped into the lead when the guy in 1st missed his braking point on the first corner and stayed there till the end of the race. When I came round the final corner for the first time I was already 1.6 seconds ahead and never had to worry about the tow for the entire race. 2nd and 3rd ended up fighting a bit which I benefitted from as well. Took first place with a 7 second lead in my B-rated lobby for a whopping 89 points!

 

[Ashthebash]

Just thrown in an absolute outlier of a qualy lap in lobby practice in the SLS (clean air), 1:38.599. Let's see if I get anywhere near it for the real thing!!

Edit: No!

 

[ivann]

fit for brasil

 

[CurbHog]

I didn't realize that YOU were HiortinTexas... love your video guides- they are to the point, helpful, and nice and straightforward.

Watched your FIA racing playlist last night, from this season. Really amazed that we have never been matched, as I have raced with virtually every other regular racer in your videos many times, and we have very similar current rankings (well, except for @Jwptexas who has left me in the dust since the start of the season, on his way up to A+...!). But I looked through all the videos and my available race history, and somehow we have never been matched, in the FIA races or the Supra events, if you've done those.

Hope to race with you sometime, and maybe pick up a cameo in one of your videos! Love the McLarens, too, what great cars, that also sound fantastic when racing.

Thank you ! Yes I hope we will meet on the track some day ! I mainly focus on FIA nowadays and a daily if there is a track in good at. The daily’s tend to be where I loose DR.