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Alright folks, time for my usual intel from top split Nations:
-Mix of Evo & WRX, except for 5 hipsters with 2 Meganes and 3 GT86s (including me)
-Most people did 1 stop or 2 stop
-Most who did 2 stop either held position or moved backwards
-The 1 stoppers held position or moved forwards 1-2 places (I've seen 10S+7M to 7S+10M work, just depends on your starting grid and traffic situation)
-One guy did 3 stops, went backwards due to very messy race (including yeeting me in the final hairpin and got off scot free :grumpy: Apologised afterwards so better than nothing I guess)
-No one did a no stop
-Winner is Nik Makozi in the GT86, with a 7M+10S strat. I wasn't too confident in my tyre saving and went 8M+9S, and still had worse tyres than him at the end. I suspect he had BB +5 though because his rears are a lot more worn than mine. I can't get consistent braking with that much rear bias, so probably wouldn't have made too much difference to the end result anyway.
-The 4WD cars are around 0.5 sec quicker in quali, but race pace drops off a lot more near the end of a stint. If you can hang with them in the GT86, you're in good position to jump them later. The RWD cars are weak in battling though, you can't cut corners and maintain stability so keep that in mind when choosing.
-Some tips: find an alternate braking marker for T1 other than the 100m board, because they disappear quickly :lol: Also if you're side by side through the squiggly bit after the backstraight, best to back off because if you touch and the other guy even touches the sand with 2 wheels, you will get a penalty :banghead:

Crazy race, just keep your cool and save tyres as much as possible. I wouldn't push my luck here in lower splits, it can become a DR/SR sink very very quickly.

Manu Fuji race is completely opposite. No strat, just go flat out. My room had a super tight quali (everyone was within 1 sec :crazy:). Pretty much held station the whole race and finished 3rd. Not bad for Slowbaru considering I lost 0.3 sec on the main straight alone :D
I've been thinking of 3 stop in the WRX, but I keep thinking of the traffic I'll pit out into each time, and whether I'll be able to retake positions lost in the pit stop... hmm...
 
Gave in and had a run at Manu. Due to my recent bad driving I have dropped a lobby or two. All good to.me as it means I can race with people instead of trying to hang on in the back and catch stragglers. Unfortunately I have door number 1.:irked:
Qualify with a middling lap and decide to leave it, end up starting p11. Race starts and after driving past a couple of punts later I am p8end of lap 1. Have a fairly smooth and steady drive, working on my consistency and not hitting anyone. Spend about 5 laps in a tight pack pushing from p5 to p9. A few wipe out. One guy gets punted by our resident barge passer. I go back and forth with another driver as we both take advantage of each othera mistakes.
End up dropping a little to p7. Great drive as far as I was concerned. Except for lap 1 and 2 others i was within 0.8 of my qually lap all race. No penalties. No punts. And a points score that counts. As much as I hate Fuji I have had 2 of my best races all season there. Gr2 in Nations and this one. :confused:

We can forget about the gr4 disaster I had there:D

Good luck to all you others in EMEA and NA.👍:cheers::gtpflag:
 
I could use some guidance if anyone is willing to help. Fuji from T2 to T3 kicks my but every time. I am trying to feather the throttle (limited success using a DS4) or hitting the throttle in spurts to make a smooth transition around that long sweeping arc. I am still losing time to other drivers during this transition. Anyone have some guidance on a way that works for them? Thanks.
 
At very specific angles you will spin out on the edge of two different kerb profiles, exactly what happened to me tonight.

Manufacturers slot 1, I had my outside wheels just on the other side of the sawtooth kerb at Fuji T3 while still turning left, and got fired across the track. An inch right or left and nothing would have happened.

Anyway got P4 in Manufacturers slot 2, rubbish points though.
 
I could use some guidance if anyone is willing to help. Fuji from T2 to T3 kicks my but every time. I am trying to feather the throttle (limited success using a DS4) or hitting the throttle in spurts to make a smooth transition around that long sweeping arc. I am still losing time to other drivers during this transition. Anyone have some guidance on a way that works for them? Thanks.

Check out @Mistah_MCA ’s lap guide, but pretty much you can be full on the gas until the service road on the right, and then I usually cruise for a second or two and then set the throttle to maintain the arc. If you do it right, you can be full on the throttle by the last apex.
 
Check out @Mistah_MCA ’s lap guide, but pretty much you can be full on the gas until the service road on the right, and then I usually cruise for a second or two and then set the throttle to maintain the arc. If you do it right, you can be full on the throttle by the last apex.
Yes, full to the first service road, small amount of throttle to the second then full gas to just before the 50 meter board. I then take the left hander in second gear with a late apex.
 
I could use some guidance if anyone is willing to help. Fuji from T2 to T3 kicks my but every time. I am trying to feather the throttle (limited success using a DS4) or hitting the throttle in spurts to make a smooth transition around that long sweeping arc. I am still losing time to other drivers during this transition. Anyone have some guidance on a way that works for them? Thanks.

Gently gently gently does it, use a lower gear with high rpm to keep the nose tight to the inside. Be patient and don’t “push” the front out wide, you can hear/feel the front pushing on the power, you want that “biting” feeling before you accelerate out the corner.
It’s a very difficult corner to get right.

edit: cut turn 2 as much as you can, pretty much all 4 wheels off track. You’ll feel like your tuning in way too early but will get used to it after a few laps.
 
Gently gently gently does it, use a lower gear with high rpm to keep the nose tight to the inside. Be patient and don’t “push” the front out wide, you can hear/feel the front pushing on the power, you want that “biting” feeling before you accelerate out the corner.
It’s a very difficult corner to get right.

edit: cut turn 2 as much as you can, pretty much all 4 wheels off track. You’ll feel like your tuning in way too early but will get used to it after a few laps.
Cut Turn 2? The left hander that leads into the fast horseshoe? The one that gives you a 1s penalty for even touching the cone that's just to the inside of the curb, even if you still have 2 wheels on track?
 
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Don't get a penalty, kids. Leader 1-stopped, 2nd 2-stopped, I 3-stopped. I have never driven as badly as this in my life, with a track I don't know, a car I don't know and tyres that were a shambles.
 
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Don't get a penalty, kids. Leader 1-stopped, 2nd 2-stopped, I 3-stopped. I have never driven as badly as this in my life, with a track I don't know, a car I don't know and tyres that were a shambles.

Didn't bother with nation's as it looked like an SR killer at such a narrow track. Well done on the result, that livery is worth half a second a lap easy :lol::lol:
 
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Don't get a penalty, kids. Leader 1-stopped, 2nd 2-stopped, I 3-stopped. I have never driven as badly as this in my life, with a track I don't know, a car I don't know and tyres that were a shambles.
Polyphony hate him!
 
Cut Turn 2? The left hander that leads into the fast horseshoe? The one that gives you a 1s penalty for even touching the cone that's just to the inside of the curb, even if you still have 2 wheels on track?

You can hit the cone and not get a penalty but only with the very left side of your car, cut anymore and it is indeed a penalty. So I wouldn't recommend cutting this corner in a race, or even running close, eventually you'll get stung and with the penalty zone you'll lose out a ton.
 
Cut Turn 2? The left hander that leads into the fast horseshoe? The one that gives you a 1s penalty for even touching the cone that's just to the inside of the curb, even if you still have 2 wheels on track?

If your not on the limit of getting a penalty there every lap your sacrificing a lot of time. So yes cut as much as you can/dare.

When I was new to Fuji I could never understand why I was slow there until I realised you have to cut it to the point of risking a penalty every lap to maximise your speed. There’s a few tracks like that where the line between speed and penalty is so fine it’s broader line cruelty :lol:.
 
If your not on the limit of getting a penalty there every lap your sacrificing a lot of time. So yes cut as much as you can/dare.

When I was new to Fuji I could never understand why I was slow there until I realised you have to cut it to the point of risking a penalty every lap to maximise your speed. There’s a few tracks like that where the line between speed and penalty is so fine it’s broader line cruelty :lol:.

Yea really important. And some cars seem to find a sweet spot into t3 if you can get the car through t2 in 4th, but tricky in my experience
 
Gave the Manufacturer race at Fuji. Unfortunately it didn't go so well. Qualified 6 tenths off pole, so ended up in 14th :(

Tried to take it easy for the 1st couple of laps, but unfortunately the chaos kicked off on lap 3 and I ended up getting taken out into the chicane. By the time I got turned around I was 15 secs off where I was. I almost gave up, but decided to keep going and it took me another 7 laps to catch up to anyone. Had a little fun racing with a few people, but they were all racing quite aggressively so again chaos kicked off. I managed to avoid most of it and gave people space (accidentally dive-bombed someone but managed to not cause too much damage and he kept his place), but that ended up not mattering as I got taken out again going into the 1st corner on the last lap.

Some very bizarre driving for an A+ lobby, but I suppose that is Fuji. Would try again but the Jag is a little too understeery for my liking at this track and Fugu Frenzy is tonight.

 
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Qualifying was a mixed bag as my first two flying laps were only good enough for 13th, but in my last flying lap with the slipstream from a Mercedes managed to sneak into 6th right at the end of the session.


At the start of the race I initially lost a little bit of ground to the Merc ahead but as they braked early I made a move stick into T1. Got past a Porsche on the main straight as they served an undeserved penalty for contact at Dunlop with an Aston Martin which dropped them to 10th. Then got past an M6 on the main straight and made it stick into 1st only for them to get it back at dunlop after they were nudged by a Mercedes behind who then span at there.


Had a good battle with that BMW and a Porsche for the next 4 laps until lap 7 where I nearly lost it at the exit of 1st and the Porsche then sadly did. From there the BMW slowly pulled ahead and after a scruffy lap 8 the Merc that I passed at 1st on lap 1 caught back up and passed me lap 9 for 4th. I tried to get back past at 1st no avail. Now in 5th nothing happened until the end. I kept about a 2 second gap to the Merc ahead and behind from there until the end. Race was won by a fellow briton in a V12 Vantage which wasn't really much of a surprise given that cars straight line speed.


Overall a better result than I had expected at Fuji given the Ferrari isn't the best car for this track. The low fuel/tyre wear didn't play into my hands either as normally I can make up a bit of time in the pits. Happy with that result overall and considering that the Ferrari struggled for top speed on the main straight. Also shout out to the guy who complemented my livery designs!

 
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Nations Cup went better than I expected. Qualified 6th, ran a 8S-9M strategy because I realised that tyre wear means nothing when you spend 99% of your time behind traffic. I messed up Turn 11 twice. as did a few other people, but the race was pretty clean for me, track penalties notwithstanding. Managed to come home 7th out of 12 finishers. I actually really enjoyed this race. The tension of trying to stay within the limits while chasing others through a tight twisty track is exciting!

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As for Manufacturers... if Fuji was really meant to be a BoP test, then I'll be waiting for both of the Alfas to get buffed. I got annihilated in qualifying because I can't hitch a tow to save my life and the race itself wasn't any better. I made up a bunch of places at Lap 1 Turn 8, but dropped down the order as the race went on. I just didn't have the pace. Whether the terrible pace was because of me, the Alfa's lack of speed or the constant defending I had to do thanks to said speed deficit, I don't know. Having issues with Turn 3 didn't help matters. I got 2 penalties thanks to that turn. I ended up finishing where I started, in 16th place. I got so mad I just gave up for the night and went to sleep.
 
3 races today (2 Nations, 1 Manu), 3 times spun to last in the first 3 turns of the race.
Same thing happened in my last race at Alsace on Wednesday.
Makes me seriously consider quitting GT Sport, I just can't enjoy the races anymore.

I'm stuck around 40k DR because of this and I was wondering if the racing standards were higher around 50k ?

By this I mean:

- not divebomb from 0.5 away when the car in front takes the normal racing line (wide) and use the side of that car for the turn-in

- not block after a mistake when the car behind arrives much faster

- know when to yield if the other car has the "priority" when side-by-side coming to the turn

- etc, etc.

Please give me hope and a reason to continue! :(
 
Learnt early on in practice that the GT LM feels slippery around the technical sections of Fuji, a missile down the straight and more settled on brake balance 0. Was a bit more confident going into Manufacturers this time than with the Gr.4 round on the short circuit, but the race itself was, to put it kindly, an interesting one.

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Entered the 15:20 slot alongside @Ashthebash 'wi-fi password' and my Swiss teammate. Bottled my first lap at the first corner, but reset and put in a respectable 1:39.304 with no slipstream (Dutch Audi was in front, but pulled over before we even got to the timing line! :confused:). Stayed out to attempt a second lap, which would have probably given me at least 1 tenth up had I not overcooked my entry into the Dunlop chicane. Reset a second time, but felt it was too late at that point to start another flier. While I was only four-and-a-half tenths off the polesitting Corvette and my 2nd-placed teammate, my solitary lap would wind me up in 15th.

The first lap didn't help my frustration, either. Had sought to take a cautious approach from the start, which a Greek Porsche and the Dutch Audi were eager to capitalise on with passes at Turns 1 and 6 respectively. Outbraked myself going into Dunlop and somehow clipped the back of the Audi as I took avoiding action. It was the lightest of touches, and the Audi didn't seem too badly affected, but it was enough to slap me with a 1-second penalty which put me down to 19th. For a while, I genuinely believed there was no contact as I didn't notice the 'thump' until going through my onboard capture afterwards. It seemed like this was turning out to be another wasted run, but the penalty, as it soon turned out, was only a temporary setback.

At Turn 1, 'Wifi password' spin offs after outbreaking and colliding with a Subaru. Next, a chain reaction of events leading up to Turn 6 results in a Porsche rage-quitting and causing a hold-up which leads to a teammate and the Subaru picking up penalties as well. Yellow flags throughout the third sector. Another Porsche crawls along pit entry with a penalty of his own. Just like that, we slingshot into 13th, clocking purple first sectors in pursuit of a British Porsche. Could see a long train of cars stretching as far up as 4th place, and made further gains on Lap 4 as the Porsche dived down the inside of Panasonic and cruelly nudged ashthebash out of 10th. What followed was a hunt for the two Ferraris and Dutch Audi up ahead, although not without a brief challenge from ashthebash at Dunlop. Clocked a 1:39.880 (just under two-tenths off the provisional fastest set by the Corvette), and came close to slipstreaming my way past the Frenchman soon after.

Witnessed a new train for 6th forming by the half-way mark, and sensed a new opportunity to fight when both Ferraris got held up by a struggling BTCC-liveried M6. This, though, allowed a Spanish Porsche and ashthebash to catch up; the Spaniard lunges up the inside at Turn 13, but I hang on and get clear while ashthebash gets biffed into oblivion again. Next lap through the third sector was even more tense. Followed the red Ferrari and saw the silver one go wide after he and the Dutch Audi make contact coming out of Dunlop. The Audi goes very wide through Turn 13, and in avoiding the silver Ferrari I lose two places to both the Spanish and British Porsches at 14 and 15. Reclaimed 12th on the exit of Panasonic and while in the slipstream of the distant BMW. The last thing I wanted was for the Dutch Audi to cut me off down the straight, which thankfully never occurred as I briefly pulled ahead of him as well. Audi was more adventurous on the brakes, but that didn't matter; he had to serve a track limits penalty and the silver Ferrari had gone wide at Turn 1 anyway.

Just managed to stay in front of the Ferrari as he re-joined, which put me up to 10th as the Audi slowed. The battle wasn't over, however. Started Lap 13 lightly bump-drafting the BMW, having set a new personal fastest of 1:39.872 in the process. In my mirror, I spot the Ferrari making a very late lunge down the inside of Turn 1; still, I get a better drive and he has the courtesy to back out before we reach Coca-Cola. Next few laps were spent trying to maintain the gap between myself, the Ferrari and the Dutch Audi, while also avoiding the BMW as he twitched his way out of Turn 15. Earlier on, I had almost lost it myself on the kerb between Coca-Cola and 100R, and did the very same thing again on the penultimate lap. First time I just about got away with it, but the second, it was enough for the silver Ferrari to sweep past me. Kept the pressure going on him and his Slovenian teammate until the end.

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Can't say I enjoyed this run much with mediocre qualifying (again) and shabby manoeuvres up and down the pack. On the whole, however, the Ford worked very similarly to how it did in the test runs I mustered during the recent heatwave. Plus, it looked after its tyres as well as the silver Ferrari and was still fairly stable providing I didn't get greedy with the kerbs. 10th place and 172 points. Thought about going again in the 20:40 slot, but it occurred to me while preparing this write-up that I now have enough top-10 finishes to cover me when the final scores are tallied up. Really want to try and get a podium or two before Stage 3 wraps up, but with the way things have gone I don't think I'm the strongest Ford driver to do it this year. It's possible, though... my Swiss teammate followed the Corvette home exactly where he started. :)
 
OK: somebody stop me. After thinking I’d be skipping the race at Willow, I’m jumping on in the first time slot and giving it a go… against better judgement! Here goes nothing!

Actually, don't know what I was worried about... it's not like the race was on the Horse Thief Mile course...

It was really pretty fun! Qualifying was impossible, so much traffic. Started 13th, ended 10th, no penalties save for a 0.5 sec track limits (just the smallest bit over the limit, I guess) but I had a 5 sec lead at the time, compared to the guys behind me. I was held up at the end of a train when I got it, so it was meaningless.

Otherwise really clean and quite surprisingly fun race. With #12, ended up with a negligible amount of DR, and was able to eliminate a lower FIA score with the points I got, so not bad!

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It was mostly a spec WRX race... which was ok. But I will say that I think that PD missed a chance to make a more fun race here by setting it up as a classic race with Cobras, Mustangs, and the like. That would have been a riot.

Now... Fuji: that will likely be another story. I just can't up to speed there, my finishes in any race in FIA or Dailies have never been good. Probably should skip THAT one... but: here goes nothing (again)!
 
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