Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

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ShawnPhillips
The Subreddits are already complaining that the new Tire Profile is only on a limited number of vehicles. Even though most of the cars in the game don't have enough space in the wheel well to justify having it.
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They way they had worded it at first suggested the ability to downsize the wheels rather than increasing the diameter of the tire itself, hence my dissapointment in particular. With the rally suspension giving a bit more suspension travel I'm fairly sure it could have been possible to add slightly bigger tires for most cars (a bit like the 911 Dakar, let's say), slightly bigger than the offroad tires. I hope it's available on some of the older trucks like the Defender and CJ5 though.

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I really hope atleast some of these are actual Rally Preps and not just that silly huge Tubular Bull Bar lazily attached to the front.
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Probably rally lights and mudflaps for most of the ones that don't have them, maybe that weird spare tire rack on the top.
 
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-Fred-
They way they had worded it at first suggested the ability to downsize the wheels rather than increasing the diameter of the tire itself, hence my dissapointment in particular. With the rally suspension giving a bit more suspension travel I'm fairly sure it could have been possible to add slightly bigger tires for most cars (a bit like the 911 Dakar, let's say), slightly bigger than the offroad tires. I hope it's available on some of the older trucks like the Defender and CJ5 though.


Probably rally lights and mudflaps for most of the ones that don't have them, maybe that weird spare tire rack on the top.
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Did they show any of the actual bodykits?
 
ykiki
For some reason, that location looks familiar to me, but I can't pin it down...
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I found the pic on Reddit. It looks like the parking lot of a Grocery Outlet. Which is exactly where I would expect to see a zombie apocalypse Miata.
 
Really would have liked to see rally parts for the Sierra Cosworth and E30 M3 as well, but at least the other Group A and Group B cars that have lacked them get some love.
 
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Love the new Street Fighter LA kits and a new Liberty Walk kit? That's good to see - there's plenty of new ones that have been designed since 2018, which was the last time we got a new LW kit. Hopefully PG are intending on adding more of these + more kits in general. More options are always welcome!

Bit disappointed that the new rally parts are only for Rally cars and the Tire Profile upgrade is for Trucks - would love to see these options on regular cars. I've expressed this many times but I really want to rally-ify more cars - and these upgrades would allow that. Please add them to more vehicles PG!

Overall a great update though. LC500 + Caddys are good additions and hopefully PG can keep this momentum going into Series 20 and beyond.
 
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Beebo
Oh are you serious? dunno why they'd do that, I'd rather it be permanent
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Well, I have one theory. I believe they're testing the waters of the initial extended night time so that the mechanic would be permanent in the next iteration of Forza Horizon.
 
I happened to have watched a few Rimac Nevera YouTube videos recently, including this one:


Really happy to have it, even though we already have the concept. It's a hugely important landmark car in our road to electric hypercars which utterly devastate combustion engine performance, and Rimac is basically going to take over Bugatti on the back of their amazing work which should lead to some astonishing new cars in the coming 10 years or so.
 
Populuxe
I get why oversized tires are limited to pickups and SUVs, but I was really hoping to make a zombie apocalypse Miata.
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Well look at it this way, History’s taught us that Forza Horizon expansions tend to be testing beds for the next Horizon game, so it’s entirely within the realm of possibility that they could expand on the tyre profile upgrades to more, if not nearly all cars in the next game. :P

Just like how they expanded on available tyre compound options for nearly all cars in this game, among other things.
 
-Fred-
They way they had worded it at first suggested the ability to downsize the wheels rather than increasing the diameter of the tire itself,
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It was pretty clear on the livestream exactly what it was. Unless you were only listening to the audio or getting the information second hand I don't see how anyone could get that impression. If it was downsizing the rims it would be in the rims menu, not a "New" upgrade. Since we have had downsizing of rims on a few vehicles already in FH4.
 
willbsn13
Love the new Street Fighter LA kits and a new Liberty Walk kit? That's good to see - there's plenty of new ones that have been designed since 2018, which was the last time we got a new LW kit. Hopefully PG are intending on adding more of these + more kits in general. More options are always welcome!

Bit disappointed that the new rally parts are only for Rally cars and the Tire Profile upgrade is for Trucks - would love to see these options on regular cars. I've expressed this many times but I really want to rally-ify more cars - and these upgrades would allow that. Please add them to more vehicles PG!

Overall a great update though. LC500 + Caddys are good additions and hopefully PG can keep this momentum going into Series 20 and beyond.
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Agreed. And the fact that they introduced that this feature is available on all tire compounds also boosts my desire.
Because this feature could help create a drag style look.

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FM7's FOX Mustang FE is a good example of this.
Wouldn't you like to see a muscle car with different size drag tires front and rear like this one?


Now, let's strike a balance by expressing our opinions on positive aspects as well as complaints.

The rally kit list includes one car that is out of place. -Subaru BRZ.
If it is not ManteoMax's mistake to include this car in the list, this Toyota 86 brother will have a different personality than his brother.
Perhaps this car could also be equipped with Rocket Bunny's widebody kit and rally kit together.
It definitely helps to build a crazy looking rally car.
 
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I thought about maybe a Oval racing track in the stadium when I saw that computer screen teaser in the Torben Tuesday. Never thought it would actually be correct though. Something interesting and different to look forward to in April.

Overall I'm really happy with the update and the Release of the DLC anytime now. I've patiently stayed with the game during the quiet times and it feels good to have a period with some hype around the game.
 
If anything, its weirder that they didn't include parts for the GT86 as well, as that did get a proper rally model backed by Toyota themselves.

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It wouldn't have even taken any additional work either, which makes it all the more baffling.
 
Beebo
Really interested to see how all these new upgrades affect the meta if at all, and launch control too!
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Absolutely. If launch control reduces the edge 4WD cars have off the line it could be very interesting.
 
willbsn13
Love the new Street Fighter LA kits and a new Liberty Walk kit? That's good to see - there's plenty of new ones that have been designed since 2018, which was the last time we got a new LW kit. Hopefully PG are intending on adding more of these + more kits in general. More options are always welcome!

Bit disappointed that the new rally parts are only for Rally cars and the Tire Profile upgrade is for Trucks - would love to see these options on regular cars. I've expressed this many times but I really want to rally-ify more cars - and these upgrades would allow that. Please add them to more vehicles PG!

Overall a great update though. LC500 + Caddys are good additions and hopefully PG can keep this momentum going into Series 20 and beyond.
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I'm almost wondering if each subsequent series will start to focus on a different type of racing. Rally would obviously be this series and then they move on to one for drag racing with the leaked mini-story/rewards etc, especially as a way to prepare players for the new Motorsport game.

PG knocked this series out of the park, so excited for the Group A body kits. Only elephant in the room for me is that this would have been a perfect way to reintroduce FCA Italy cars for me but I don't think that is their fault.
 
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FH5 Release Notes: March 28th, 2023​


We're constantly working to improve the experience in Forza Horizon 5. Below you will find a summary of items fixed or improved upon in this update.



Version Number:

  • Xbox One: 2.573.834.0
  • Xbox Series: 3.573.834.0
  • PC: 3.573.834.0
  • Steam: 1.573.834.0

Series 19 Title Update Release Notes – Midnights at Horizon + Rally Adventure



New Features (Available from March 28th for all players)

  • Anti-Lag - Available to any Petrol/Gasoline engine that has a turbo available
  • Launch Control Assist for all cars
  • Rally Parts available on:
    • 2017 Alpine A110
    • 1985 Ford RS200 Evolution
    • 1970 Ford GT70
    • 2017 Ford M-Sport Fiesta RS
    • 2017 Ford Focus RS
    • 2016 Honda Civic Coupe
    • 1978 Hoonigan Ford Escort RS1800
    • 1986 Hoonigan Ford RS200 Evolution
    • 1991 Hoonigan Gymkhana 10 Ford Escort Cosworth Group A
    • 1994 Hoonigan Ford Escort RS Cosworth 'Cossie V2'
    • 2016 Hoonigan Gymkhana 10 Ford Focus RS RX
    • 1992 Mazda 323 GT-R
    • 1986 MG Metro 6R4
    • 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR
    • 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR 'Welcome Pack'
    • 1990 Nissan Pulsar GTI-R
    • 1984 Opel Manta 400
    • 2007 Peugeot 207 Super 2000
    • 1987 Porsche 959
    • 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
    • 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
    • 2013 Subaru BRZ
    • 2019 Subaru STI S209
    • 1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205
    • 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
  • Tire Profile Size available on:
    • 2016 Bentley Bentayga
    • 2011 BMW X5 M
    • 2015 BMW X6 M
    • 2018 Can-Am Maverick X RS Turbo R
    • 2017 Chevrolet Colorado ZR2
    • 2018 Dodge Durango SRT
    • 1975 Ford Bronco
    • 2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor
    • 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor
    • 2020 Ford Super Duty F-450 DRW Platinum
    • 2021 Ford Bronco
    • 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum
    • 1970 GMC Jimmy
    • 2006 Hummer H1 Alpha
    • 1970 International Scout 800A
    • 2017 Jaguar F-Pace S
    • 2018 Jaguar I-Pace
    • 1976 Jeep CJ5 Renegade
    • 2012 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
    • 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT
    • 2016 Jeep Trailcat
    • 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk
    • 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon
    • 2019 Lamborghini Urus
    • 1972 Land Rover Series III
    • 1973 Land Rover Range Rover
    • 1997 Land Rover Defender 90
    • 2015 Land Rover Range Rover Sport SVR
    • 2018 Land Rover Range Rover Velar First Edition
    • 2017 Maserati Levante S
    • 2013 Mercedes-Benz G 65 AMG
    • 2018 Mercedes-Benz X-Class
    • 2004 Nissan Pickup #23 Rally Raid
    • 2016 Nissan TITAN Warrior Concept
    • 2021 Polaris RZR Pro XP Factory Racing Limited Edition
    • 2021 Polaris RZR Pro XP Ultimate
    • 2018 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
    • 2019 Porsche Macan Turbo
    • 2017 RAM 2500 Power Wagon
    • 2021 SIERRA Cars 700R
    • 2021 Sierra Cars RX3
    • 1979 Toyota FJ40
    • 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro
    • 1945 Willys MB Jeep
  • Widebody Kits available on:
    • 1997 BMW M3 (StreetFighterLA Bodykit)
    • 2008 BMW M3 (StreetFighterLA Bodykit)
    • 2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE (StreetFighterLA Bodykit)
    • 2021 Lexus LC 500 Liberty Walk (LB Holdings Co., Ltd)
  • Epitaph Radio Station featuring 15 new tracks:
    • The Ghost Inside –“Aftermath”
    • pts! –“bittersweet teeth”
    • Alkaline Trio –“Blackbird”
    • Mannequin P –“Control”
    • “Feel Something” (feat. Derek Sanders) performed by Magnolia Park
    • Joyce Manor –“GottaLet It Go”
    • The Linda Lindas–“Growing Up”The Linda Lindas–“Oh!”
    • THICK –“Happiness”
    • The Offspring –“It’ll Be A Long Time”
    • Pennywise –“Land Of The Free?”
    • Chad Tepper –“Never Moving On”
    • Bad Religion –“New Dark Ages”
    • Early Eyes –“Revel Berry”
    • Architects –“when we were young”
  • EventLab Rally Prop Pack featuring 26 new Rally inspired props
  • EventLab Neon Light Decorations, Neon Cube Collectible,
    Eyes
  • (Console) - Steering Wheels new settings: Steering Rotation, Steering Lock Multiplier and Steering Speed Sensitivity
  • (PC) - Nvidia DLSS 3.0 support for RTX 40xx Series
  • Additional track in Festival Playlist Series featuring two Rally Adventure events per week
    • Exclusive for Rally Adventure expansion owners (Non-Expansion owners will still be able to achieve "Min Meet Max" achievement at the end of the Series)
  • Accolade "Midnights at Horizon Collector"
"Rally Adventure" Expansion Features (Available from March 29th - Expansion owners only)

  • New Open World map "Sierra Nueva"
  • All-new campaign, featuring an all-new Rally career
  • Horizon Rally and Race modes
    • Horizon Rally modes featuring Split Times and audio-visual co-drivers
  • 10 New to Forza Cars unlockable through campaign progression
    • 1973 Hoonigan Volkswagen Baja Beetle Class 5/1600 'Scumbug'
    • 2001 #4 Ford Focus RS
    • 2019 Casey Currie Motorsports #4402 Ultra 4 'Trophy Jeep’
    • 2019 Jimco #240 Fastball Racing Spec Trophy Truck
    • 2020 Jimco #179 Hammerhead Class 1
    • 2021 Alumicraft #122 Class 1 Buggy
    • 2021 Polaris RZR Pro XP Factory Racing Limited Edition
    • 2021 RJ Anderson #37 Polaris RZR Pro 4 Truck
    • 2022 Alumicraft #6165 Trick Truck
    • 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum
  • New Races and PR stunts
    • 8 Road Racing Tracks (Asphalt only)
    • 8 Primarily Dirt Surfaces
    • 8 Mixed Surfaces, Night only
    • 3 Ambassador Races
    • 1 Goliath Event
    • 20 PR Stunts (5 Speed Traps, 5 Speed Zones, 5 Danger Signs, 5 Drift Zones)
  • Improved deformable surfaces including rugged sand roads interwoven with pre-deformed tire tracks
  • 27 Rally Adventure Achievements
  • 11 Rally Adventure Accolades featuring Forza LINK rewards
  • Cosmetic items unlockable through Campaign and Festival Playlist
"Midnights at Horizon" Series Features (Available from March 30th until April 27th for all players)

  • Extended Night-Time exclusively for this Series
  • Neon Light Decorations in Aerodromo En La Selva and Races
  • Drone Show in Aerodromo En La Selva and around Horizon Badlands Festival Fast Travel point in Mexico (Dunas Blancas area)
  • Neon Light Cube Collectible
  • Eyes
Unlockable Cars 

  • New To Forza
    • 2021 Rimac Nevera
    • 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing
    • 2021 Lexus LC 500
    • 2022 Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing

Bug fixes​

General

  • Fixed an issue with the Daily Wheelspins attached to owning the Hotel Castillo Player House which would sometimes unlock inconsistently
  • Fixed an issue with cars thumbnails being generated with black headlights and windows
    • Developer's Notes: Since thumbnails are generated locally, players with those corrupted thumbnails would need to edit their car (any modification would suffice, like changing paint, or livery or tuning). This process would force the system to re-generate the thumbnail which will be shown correctly afterwards.
  • Fixed an issue with the incorrect target number of photos in the Horizon Promo, specifically for Mercedes-AMG
  • Fixed an issue with Accolades where some players were able to accumulate more accolades points than intended while being offline
  • Fixed a crash on PC which was occurring when the display was not connected to the primary graphics adapter
  • Client Security updates
  • General performance and stability fixes
Cars

  • Fixed an issue where cars were unable to rev past 3000 RPM when shifting from first to reverse gear and vice-versa
  • Fixed an issue with the 1976 Jeep CJ5 Renegade where wheels on the thumbnail were flipped around
  • Fixed an issue with inconsistent paint/vinyl options on the 2020 #20 MG6 Xpower stock wing
  • Fixed an issue with the 1958 Plymouth Fury rear view mirror which was compressing cars making them appear taller and thinner
  • Fixed an issue with the 1997 BMW M3 where corrupted textures were showing when the car was damaged
Accolades

  • Fixed an issue with "Open Empire" Accolade which didn't have a tracker in the Accolade menu
  • Fixed an issue with "Baja Bug" Accolade which was not getting completed upon meeting its requirements
EventLab

  • Corrected the UI indicator for the over-budget props when editing a blueprint
Multiplayer

  • Fixed an issue in Convoys where sometimes players couldn't use any d-pad menus after a disconnection
  • Fixed an issue where sometimes players were not able to access most game features if accessing The Eliminator via Hot Wheels Menu tab
  • Fixed an issue in "Las Afueras" Street Race upon resetting the car after missing a specific checkpoint
  • Improvements made to reduce client crashes when being challenged into a Head-to-Head in The Eliminator or in Free Roam



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The Porsche 959 is listed as having new rally parts but I can't find anything different about it. Otherwise all the other cars get some form of spotlights/bashbar/roof vent/mudflap combo. Nothing incredibly exciting.
 
Initial test with DLSS 3 Frame Generation a bit disappointing. Only gained about 25% FPS on my 4080. (4K Extreme Settings with TAA, increase from about 96 average to 124 in the Benchmark). But I am noticing that my GPU is limiting itself to about 70% when DLSS 3 is enabled. Almost like the game is setting a soft 120 FPS limit when FG is enabled. A shame when my monitor supports 4K at 144Hz.
Also Reflex can only be enabled if Frame Generation is turned on.
 
-Fred-
The Porsche 959 is listed as having new rally parts but I can't find anything different about it. Otherwise all the other cars get some form of spotlights/bashbar/roof vent/mudflap combo. Nothing incredibly exciting.
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They are wrong 959 to list. The correct listing is 1985 #185 959.
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Now that I have checked all the rally kits on all the models, here are my impressions.

Good : some cars have new designed rally parts. Also, several cars have extensive combinations of bash bars and light pods, etc.

Bad: they are basically generic parts. And all widebody cars except Focus can hardly use widebody kit and rally kit together.

My favorites are the Alpine A110 and the Subaru BRZ. The rally kits for these two cars look great.

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Spoiler alert: list of all rally kits.

*The list also includes rally kits that were included prior to the update for some models.

  • 2017 Alpine A110 ...Dual fog bumper/mud flaps/roof vent
  • 1985 Ford RS200 Evolution ...Mud flaps/round light pod
  • 1970 Ford GT70 ...Bash bar/mud flaps/round light pod
  • 2017 Ford M-Sport Fiesta RS ...Round light pod/double light bar
  • 2017 Ford Focus RS (can be used with widebody kit) ...Bash bar/mud flap/round light pod/double light bar
  • 2016 Honda Civic Coupe ...Round light pod/double light bar
  • 1978 Hoonigan Ford Escort RS1800 ...Dual fog bumper/bash bar/bash bar & dual fogs/bash bar & dual fogs & Forza bumper/mud flap
  • 1986 Hoonigan Ford RS200 Evolution ...Mud flap/round light pod
  • 1991 Hoonigan Gymkhana 10 Ford Escort Cosworth Group A ...Mud flaps/round light pod
  • 1994 Hoonigan Ford Escort RS Cosworth 'Cossie V2' ...Round light pod
  • 2016 Hoonigan Gymkhana 10 Ford Focus RS RX ...Round light pod/double light bar
  • 1992 Mazda 323 GT-R ...Bash bar/mud flap/roof vent/round light pod/roof vent & round light pod
  • 1986 MG Metro 6R4 ...6 light pods
  • 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR/GSR WP (only hood and spare tire are available with wide body kit) ...Bash bar/mud flap/spare tire/patrol lights (blue) & mud flap/patrol lights (yellow) & mud flap/spare tire & mud flap/roof vent/round light pod/roof vent & round light pod
  • 1990 Nissan Pulsar GTI-R ...Bash bar/mud flap/roof vent/round light pod/roof vent & round light pod
  • 1984 Opel Manta 400 ...Bash bar/mud flap
  • 2007 Peugeot 207 Super 2000 ...Bash bar/mud flap/old round light pod
  • 1985 Porsche #185 959 Prodrive Rally Raid (*959 road car is wrong) ...Bash bar & light pod/round light pod
  • 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi ...Bash bar/spare tire/mud flap/old style round light pod/roof vent/roof vent & old style round light pod/round light pod/roof vent & round light pod
  • 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI ...Bash bar/Mud flap//Roof ventilator/Round light pod/Roof ventilator & round light pod
  • 2013 Subaru BRZ (*Not for use with widebody kit) ...Round light pod/mud flap/roof ventilator
  • 2019 Subaru STI S209 (*Only spare tire is available with widebody kit) ...Mud flap/bash bar/mud flap & bash bar/spare tire/roof vent & round light pod
  • 1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205 ...Round light pod/mud flap/roof vent
  • 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution ...Round light pod/bash bar/bash bar & round light pod/mud flap/roof vent
 
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