Gran Turismo 7 1.60 Update Now Available

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Old_Setzer
Man, I can't stop looking at the Integra. It's been a long time since I've been looking forward to a car update.

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I want to drive this beast so hard :bowdown:
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Does anyone know the significance of the front wheel covers? Is it for Aero?
 
The thing with the car categories is they are are underwhelming across the board.

Classic cars pretty weak but arguably the 205 GTi is interesting and the E36 M3. These are iconic and class leading or defining Cars that every sales manager could have esports too or on the second hand market were attainable. They are cars that were at the peak of their class.

And here we are today looking at essentially a populous car with no redeaming features, it’s a car with the weakest performance in its class (which is a very slow and underwhelming class) a classic version of a car that was the spiritual predecessor of the R19 16v Which ultimately lead to the RS Megane and Clio.

This BX is the rubbish one.

The Lancia is fine, as a rally car I’d imagine it will have a very low play time, probably easy to exploit a race or two.

I love and embrace the car variety, and GT is very good at pulling in some of those sleepers or mainstream ones but the last few update don’t feel true to the car culture ethos.

I get they are popular but so is the base model focus or Corolla, popular doesn’t mean good racing content cars:

If popularity or rate of general travel is the direction just fill the game with all the BMW 3/4 series variants and be done with it.
 
Mafio
From a business prospective, it makes a lot of sense. A majority of people drive SUVs, like it or not. If you want to draw in new business you have to meet the customers halfway. In a fantastical perfect world, a game like GT can aware people of great cars the way it made a lot of Americans aware of JDM cars.
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I disagree. No one is buying a $60 driving game so that they can drive a crossover. They're buying it to experience cars they will likely never experience in real life, and they'll drive the cars in the game that are fun to drive and fast, and sound good. Crossovers are none of those things.

RACECAR
Its strange that folks you like think this even long after additions like the Toyota Pod from GT4, The VW Schimmwagen and Kubelwagen in GT5 or the Moon Buggy in GT6. 28 years and it still shocking people that this series isn't like other racing games?
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The thing is, those are all interesting cars to drive in the game. I feel the same about the kei truck and the unimog - I'm glad they're in the game. But a Honda CRV is just not a unique or interesting car.
 
Still, so many "GivE me GT3 cArS" nonsense. It's REALLY getting old guys and girls. This is NOT the game for you, me thinks.

Also, this SUV/CUV (whatever you want to call it) seems to be one of the better ones. Manual gears, petrol engine, etc... (in other words it can likely be tuned) Add to that the gorgeous Citroen, and the Delta Rally Car and this is a pretty decent update for a game at this late stage of it's life cycle. Do I want some things added to the game? Of course. I still want Endurances races, and A LOT more events for single player, but I'm happy to have anything new added to the game, and I am going to have an absolute blast driving all 3 of these cars tomorrow. Plus new engine swaps to look forward to.
 
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RACECAR
Its strange that folks you like think this even long after additions like the Toyota Pod from GT4, The VW Schimmwagen and Kubelwagen in GT5 or the Moon Buggy in GT6. 28 years and it still shocking people that this series isn't like other racing games?
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Yeah I remember the kubelwagon and moon buggy. It was a bahahaha what the heck is this doing in here? Drive it once or twice and then never touch it again. Or you open a lobby or join one, everyone is in similar cars and that one guy rolls up in the kubelwagon and smokes everyone. Yay, good job.
 
heftyscent
I disagree. No one is buying a $60 driving game so that they can drive a crossover. They're buying it to experience cars they will likely never experience in real life, and they'll drive the cars in the game that are fun to drive and fast, and sound good. Crossovers are none of those things.


The thing is, those are all interesting cars to drive in the game. I feel the same about the kei truck and the unimog - I'm glad they're in the game. But a Honda CRV is just not a unique or interesting car.
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Maybe because you don’t get the Honda Civic without getting the CRV?

PD added the CRV because they think it’s interesting and an important part of car culture

Or

PD were told to add the CRV in order to have X Y Z from Honda

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@newmedia_dev I agree with you on this point too👍.

I find that there are still far too many legendary cars missing that represent the automotive culture of yesterday and today.

Seeing that Polyphony wastes its time adding models like the CRV, CH-R, 2008 and others that have no sporting track record saddens me😓.

It's a huge waste when you see the effort they have to put into modeling them😓.
 
ShonnDaylee
Still, so many "GivE me GT3 cArS" nonsense. It's REALLY getting old guys and girls. This is NOT the game for you, me thinks.

Also, this SUV/CUV (whatever you want to call it) seems to be one of the better ones. Manual gears, petrol engine, etc... (in other words it can likely be tuned) Add to that the Gorgeous Citroen, and the Delta Rally Car and this is a pretty decent update for a game at this late stage of it's life cycle. Do I want some things added to the game? Of course. I still want Endurances races, and A LOT more events for single player, but I'm happy to have anything new added to the game, and I am going to have an absolute blast driving all 3 of these cars tomorrow. Plus new engine swaps to look forward to.
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I don't want any GT3 cars. I would want interesting cars that mean something to me, cars I can dream about. Like a B5 RS4, or a NB Mazdaspeed miata. But if you'd rather drive a Honda CRV than one of these, than whatever floats your boat. I'd guess you'd be in the minority of this, however.
 
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heftyscent
I disagree. No one is buying a $60 driving game so that they can drive a crossover. They're buying it to experience cars they will likely never experience in real life, and they'll drive the cars in the game that are fun to drive and fast, and sound good. Crossovers are none of those things.
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I think your confusing YOUR thoughts with other people's thoughts. I know telepathy can be overwhelming at times.
 
Mafio
I think your confusing YOUR thoughts with other people's thoughts. I know telepathy can be overwhelming at times.
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What are your most driven cars in GT. Is a crossover even in your top 150? How often are your really driving these cars?
 
jc59200
@newmedia_dev I agree with you on this point too👍.

I find that there are still far too many legendary cars missing that represent the automotive culture of yesterday and today.

Seeing that Polyphony wastes its time adding models like the CRV, CH-R, 2008 and others that have no sporting track record saddens me😓.

It's a huge waste when you see the effort they have to put into modeling them😓.
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I think this is the thing I struggle with, when I was younger the culture was very much around “tuning” which meant putting sun strips on corsas which was probably your mums.

But that made things like the base corsa or nova or 205 relatable and the GSI, GTi variants aspirational. I wanted to own a M3/5 had one, I had a 205 GTi (x3) And a few other unique performance cars of the time. But these are culturally significant cars.

A Toyota faux by 4 and and a classic BX which isn’t even one of the good ones, and a non descript Peugeot faux by 4

Just not ticking the the boxes in any of the spectrums I can imagine
 
Just so those at the back can hear
Yamauchi also reflects on the changing face of motoring today. “The types of cars are changing a lot… In the past, car enthusiasts drove sports cars… Nowadays, car enthusiasts often drive SUVs… I think we have to cover such cars."
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www.gtplanet.net

Kazunori Yamauchi on Gran Turismo Fan Expectations, SUVs, Expensive Wheels, Tourist Trophy, and More

Image via Roger Sieber, games.ch Over the holiday period, and to mark Gran Turismo's 25th Anniversary, Polyphony Digital invited Japanese gaming media to a rare tour of its facilities and another opportunity for Kazunori Yamauchi to explain his thoughts of the past, present, and future of the ser
www.gtplanet.net www.gtplanet.net
 
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heftyscent
I disagree. No one is buying a $60 driving game so that they can drive a crossover. They're buying it to experience cars they will likely never experience in real life, and they'll drive the cars in the game that are fun to drive and fast, and sound good. Crossovers are none of those things.


The thing is, those are all interesting cars to drive in the game. I feel the same about the kei truck and the unimog - I'm glad they're in the game. But a Honda CRV is just not a unique or interesting car.
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There is a complete symbiosis with my real car I own and GT, its very important I have my car in GT. I couldnt risk GT not having my car in the future so I had to buy one I knew was already in GT7, I am happy. I think most adults who drive cars would think it significant to have their own car in GT to drive. I think most people under driving age would be happy with supercars. This is how i see it happens with Youtubers and their channels buying cars and fixing them up etc, the annoying ones act like todlers and buy and fix expensive supercars, the mature youtubers buy cheaper/normal or older cars and fix and service them etc. (on average) . The children in their millions watch the silly blokes messing about with expensive flash stuff.
So in a way you are right lots of people will buy GT just to get to drive the supercars but I think that will be the under driving age demographic. I think GT is popular since the 1990's and will have plenty of people buying it to drive everyday cars you would see of various ages and reasonable prices.
So its probablly a mixture of all tastes. Which GT does quite well, aslong as they keep updating and adding cars.
 
Nebuc72







Come on man. At least do a bit of research before you start yapping.
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Some quick searching on Youtube would've pull those up immediately. Imagine having so little Motorsports awareness to make such a comment while somehow not seeing those.
 
Nebuc72







Come on man. At least do a bit of research before you start yapping.
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Ah yes for all those races PD put out for these fine specimens of motorsport.

Just because they can, doesn’t mean they should. You can race anything but that doesn’t mean it’s the best starting point to race.
 
VR-SORN
There is a complete symbiosis with my real car I own and GT, its very important I have my car in GT. I couldnt risk GT not having my car in the future so I had to buy one I knew was already in GT7, I am happy. I think most adults who drive cars would think it significant to have their own car in GT to drive. I think most people under driving age would be happy with supercars. This is how i see it happens with Youtubers and their channels buying cars and fixing them up etc, the annoying ones act like todlers and buy and fix expensive supercars, the mature youtubers buy cheaper/normal or older cars and fix and service them etc. (on average) . The children in their millions watch the silly blokes messing about with expensive flash stuff.
So in a way you are right lots of people will buy GT just to get to drive the supercars but I think that will be the under driving age demographic. I think GT is popular since the 1990's and will have plenty of people buying it to drive everyday cars you would see of various ages and reasonable prices.
So its probablly a mixture of all tastes. Which GT does quite well, aslong as they keep updating and adding cars.
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I don’t even own a car anymore - and the car I can drive (my wife’s) is a 2019 Suzuki Vitar.

Still could be worse, could be a 2008 like my sister has. (Which coincidentally I vomitted in after a wedding last year: if you saw a man in his underpants by the side of the A45 in Northamptonshire, that was me)
 
heftyscent
What are your most driven cars in GT. Is a crossover even in your top 150? How often are your really driving these cars?
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It doesn't even matter because I know I do not represent everyone, so its besides the point. Tbh we are a minority in this situation.(Not to mention PD already got our money) Did you know that trucks and SUV make up 85% of US car sales last year? If they want to build their player base...aka make more money, they're going to have to go through SUVs. Its a cold, hard reality but the average person doesn't car about sports cars anymore.
 
heftyscent
I don't want any GT3 cars. I would want interesting cars that mean something to me, cars I can dream about. Like a B5 RS4, or a NB Mazdaspeed miata. But if you'd rather drive a Honda CRV than one of these, than whatever floats your boat. I'd guess you'd be in the minority of this, however.
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This is the issue. People like YOU thinking everything YOU want is what everyone else wants. I'm not saying the Peugeot would be my first choice, but I'm perfectly fine with it being in the game, and I plan to have a good time with it. Also, it is a popular vehicle IRL, and many people DO want to drive/tune a vehicle they can buy (or have done) IRL. This is what GT has ALWAYS been about. So many of you seem to be so blinded by what you want (some of which is just unrealistic) that you can't enjoy what we have. It's getting to the point where I'm dreading coming to GTPlanet after an update announcement, because it's just people complaining. It's well over 3 years into this game's life cycle (toward the end of it, realistically) and we are still getting monthly(ish) updates with handcrafted vehicles, new engine swaps, new events, scapes, SOPHY implementation, etc... This game is far from perfect, but it seems like some of you are never going to be happy no matter what Kaz does.

I'll be having a good time tomorrow, with a big smile on my face, while some of you sulk in the corner.
 

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