Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.67 Now Available: Three New Cars, New Races & Circuit Experience, Engine Swaps and More

[HadenGTracer]

Wow, Xiaomi cars, this is going downhill. Hope everyone is aware that one caught on fire recently and trapped a man inside hence taking his life. At least a couple more months or years are needed for this introduction to 'the real driving simulator', to improve this brand's posture right? Hope Kaz knows what he is doing.

 

[kjb]

The car that caught fire was in accident and the doors didn't open trapping the driver inside. https://ev.com/news/xiaomi-su7-blaze-in-china-sparks-safety-debate-and-market-sell-off

 

[Gerarghini]

Wow, Xiaomi cars, this is going downhill. Hope everyone is aware that one caught on fire recently and trapped a man inside hence taking his life. At least a couple more months or years are needed for this introduction to 'the real driving simulator', to improve this brand's posture right? Hope Kaz knows what he is doing.

 

[RACECAR]

Wow, Xiaomi cars, this is going downhill. Hope everyone is aware that one caught on fire recently and trapped a man inside hence taking his life. At least a couple more months or years are needed for this introduction to 'the real driving simulator', to improve this brand's posture right? Hope Kaz knows what he is doing.

Rather convenient that you left out the part where it was in an accident.

 

[VXR]

I just hope they see fit to add some EV only races now there are five or six similar looking examples in the game.

 

[WolfpackS2k]

Glad monthly updates are back (maybe?) but I DGAF about these new cars. Snoozer.

 

[05XR8]

Rather convenient that you left out the part where it was in an accident.

Hope that member does read about the countless classic race cars and road cars added to the game that were death traps for drivers around the globe.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

How many yuppies ended up climbing threes in 1980s Porsches? Should we drop them all? VW was born as a nazi project, do we want the game associated with that?

Hope that member does read about the countless classic race cars and road cars added to the game that were death traps for drivers around the globe.

we sometimes get to see some INSANE hot takes around here, but that one, wow.

 

[RACECAR]

How many yuppies ended up climbing threes in 1980s Porsches? Should we drop them all? VW was born as a nazi project, do we want the game associated with that?

And we can't forget an era of Rally that took so many lives. Should all cars from that period be completely scrubbed as well?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Did they fix it? Last time I checked, the best option was to set it on weak.

Boost on weak with a rabbit car you ignore is the best way to do Sophy custom races. Or do multi-class and run in the slower class because the faster class acts as the rabbit.

Granted this is not stuff we should need to do, but at the moment, that is the best method.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

And we can't forget an era of Rally that took so many lives. Should all cars from that period be completely scrubbed as well?

Like, I love the 917K, for me it is The Porsche, the quintessential racing car, but if we are going down this road, we should just nuke it from the game. I mean, it's almost like it was developed as a death trap on purpose: driver's legs in in front of the front axle, fuel BAGS everywhere ready to be pierced, flimsy aluminum space frame chassis, fiber glass, next to undrivable at high speeds, brake fade in a matter of minutes. Killed three drivers that I remember as well, three times as lethal as the Xiaomi, at the very least.

And the tracks! Wait until he finds out how many people got killed driving the Nordschleife: 200+ fatalities, counting drivers AND spectators.

 

[VlackSiper12]

Curious to see if PD updates the Honda logo in game since Honda recently changed theirs in real life

 

[ScottPuss20]

How many yuppies ended up climbing threes in 1980s Porsches? Should we drop them all? VW was born as a nazi project, do we want the game associated with that?

We shouldn't have any racing games at all because driving a car is dangerous and you could die in one.

 

[05XR8]

We shouldn't have any racing games at all because driving a car is dangerous and you could die in one.

Well PD say in their disclaimer to always wear your seatbelt and use your indicators. We'll be alright.

 

[AceMoosh]

i hope we get one of the V8 Lexus engines as a swap for the Supra as a nod to the new GR V8 Supercar

 

[Quakebass]

For the 296 the price should be for being a Nurb winner (similar to R8 LMS 2015 that is most expensive than the evo car)

The 296 is more a reflection of its actual price. Modern GT3 cars have started to get increasingly more and more expensive, in part because there’s no more upper GT categories for R&D to go into, so manufacturers shifted from GT1, to GT2/GTE, and now GT3 for a lot of maximization and innovation.

Increasingly less and less is shared between a road car and its GT3 race car counterpart, or manufacturers are going for designs that are intended to be race cars first, but still able to be sold in a similar road-going variety, like the Mustang GTD and upcoming GR GT from Toyota.

The 296 GT3 has more in common with a prototype race car than a GT car, it basically has 3 or 4 panels on each end of the car, and the engine and gearbox can be pulled out after undoing 4-6 bolts. The chassis itself was redesigned and built by Oreca, who built the old Viper GT2s, currently makes the dominant and preferred LMP2 platform, and the customer LMDh chassis/tubs for Acura, Alpine, Genesis, and soon Ford in GTP/Hypercar classes. An insane amount of development went into its redesign to simplify and shorten mechanic labor at the race track for simple and easy repairs or component replacement, and that’s reflected in the price. Depending on who’s buying and what spares packages you order with it it actually has been hitting that 1.2mil mark, but it’s trended around 800-900k as far as I’m aware. Older GT3 platforms have sat around 400-500k, but all the new Evo packs and new models have been 600-750k, and it’s looking like costs are gonna keep going up now that manufacturers have found new ways to squeeze innovation into the class.

I just want to provide some examples, as I was at Daytona for the last two weekends and got to see a lot of car teardowns in the garages.

Lexus RCF, who’s design is from 2017:

Has a whole bunch of mounts, joints, and structure bars, and a complicated set of paneling for radiators and aero bits.

Compare it to the Ford Mustang, which debuted in 2024 and got an Evo kit this year:

Launch GT3:

2026 Evo kit:

The engine literally mounts directly to the chassis and firewall as a structured member, and the fenders and bumpers just clip together in 3 parts, with the hood also being able to just clip on to those pieces, and be carried or stacked efficiently as a front end unit. This is how modern GT3s have been getting built and what’s making them cost more.

BMW’s 2022 M4 has similar panel structuring:

Mercedes’s platform is also pretty old and has more similarities to the Lexus as far as inefficient/high quantities of body/panel packaging:

Now compare to how the 296 comes apart:

Unbelievably simple car to work on. Compare it to an Oreca 07 LMP2:

Basically a carbon cage mounted to an engine and then some clip-on aero paneling. This is a Dallara LMDh, but it functions similarly:

And as you say, the R8 is fairly pricey, but that too was a redesigned platform for GT3, in fact the R8 and Huracan shared carbon tubs and used the same race engines, just had different mountings for panels, it may have been one of the early innovators to this trend:

TL;DR, this is all to say many of the modern race car prices aren’t too disconnected from reality. GT3s vary wildly in price depending on their age and amount of development/chassis restructuring.

This is particularly why I’m interested in the TCR’s pricing, cuz it’s the first time we’ll have gotten something from that category. I’m a little interested in the Porsche’s price too, but it should allign more with other Group 3 cars since it isn’t the new-new evo model, tho it may have the evo parts in GT Auto like the 296 did.

 

[alvitoxde123]

The 296 is more a reflection of its actual price. Modern GT3 cars have started to get increasingly more and more expensive, in part because there’s no more upper GT categories for R&D to go into, so manufacturers shifted from GT1, to GT2/GTE, and now GT3 for a lot of maximization and innovation.

Increasingly less and less is shared between a road car and its GT3 race car counterpart, or manufacturers are going for designs that are intended to be race cars first, but still able to be sold in a similar road-going variety, like the Mustang GTD and upcoming GR GT from Toyota.

The 296 GT3 has more in common with a prototype race car than a GT car, it basically has 3 or 4 panels on each end of the car, and the engine and gearbox can be pulled out after undoing 4-6 bolts. The chassis itself was redesigned and built by Oreca, who built the old Viper GT2s, currently makes the dominant and preferred LMP2 platform, and the customer LMDh chassis/tubs for Acura, Alpine, Genesis, and soon Ford in GTP/Hypercar classes. An insane amount of development went into its redesign to simplify and shorten mechanic labor at the race track for simple and easy repairs or component replacement, and that’s reflected in the price. Depending on who’s buying and what spares packages you order with it it actually has been hitting that 1.2mil mark, but it’s trended around 800-900k as far as I’m aware. Older GT3 platforms have sat around 400-500k, but all the new Evo packs and new models have been 600-750k, and it’s looking like costs are gonna keep going up now that manufacturers have found new ways to squeeze innovation into the class.

I just want to provide some examples, as I was at Daytona for the last two weekends and got to see a lot of car teardowns in the garages.

Lexus RCF, who’s design is from 2017:

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Has a whole bunch of mounts, joints, and structure bars, and a complicated set of paneling for radiators and aero bits.

Compare it to the Ford Mustang, which debuted in 2024 and got an Evo kit this year:

Launch GT3:

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2026 Evo kit:

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The engine literally mounts directly to the chassis and firewall as a structured member, and the fenders and bumpers just clip together in 3 parts, with the hood also being able to just clip on to those pieces, and be carried or stacked efficiently as a front end unit. This is how modern GT3s have been getting built and what’s making them cost more.

BMW’s 2022 M4 has similar panel structuring:

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Mercedes’s platform is also pretty old and has more similarities to the Lexus as far as inefficient/high quantities of body/panel packaging:

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Now compare to how the 296 comes apart:

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Unbelievably simple car to work on. Compare it to an Oreca 07 LMP2:

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Basically a carbon cage mounted to an engine and then some clip-on aero paneling. This is a Dallara LMDh, but it functions similarly:

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And as you say, the R8 is fairly pricey, but that too was a redesigned platform for GT3, in fact the R8 and Huracan shared carbon tubs and used the same race engines, just had different mountings for panels, it may have been one of the early innovators to this trend:

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TL;DR, this is all to say many of the modern race car prices aren’t too disconnected from reality. GT3s vary wildly in price depending on their age and amount of development/chassis restructuring.

This is particularly why I’m interested in the TCR’s pricing, cuz it’s the first time we’ll have gotten something from that category. I’m a little interested in the Porsche’s price too, but it should allign more with other Group 3 cars since it isn’t the new-new evo model, tho it may have the evo parts in GT Auto like the 296 did.

This is the type of post which just gives every car enthusiast a big damn smile.

Actually talking about the update, im very interested to see which circuits the 992 GT3 becomes the meta, considering its RR layout. Im thinking something like Laguna Seca?

 

[Gerarghini]

Curious to see if PD updates the Honda logo in game since Honda recently changed theirs in real life

Ah! Good point, but I doubt it Aston Martin revealed a new logo in 2021 and it took PD four years to update it (as seen here.)

They have also yet to update Suzuka's branding that was revealed in 2022 (and, for some bizarre reason, PD has a build of Suzuka with the updated scenery/branding and just straight up refuse to include it in an update ).

They can be fast when they want to be no point in applying logic to PD's decisions at this point (like how they'll be adding the 992 GT3.R before the M4 GT3 even though the M4 was seen at a GTWS event first ).

 

[alvitoxde123]

Ah! Good point, but I doubt it Aston Martin revealed a new logo in 2021 and it took PD four years to update it (as seen here.)

They have also yet to update Suzuka's branding that was revealed in 2022 (and, for some bizarre reason, PD has a build of Suzuka with the updated scenery/branding and just straight up refuse to include it in an update ).

They can be fast when they want to be no point in applying logic to PD's decisions at this point (like how they'll be adding the 992 GT3.R before the M4 GT3 even though the M4 was seen at a GTWS event first ).

At this point im thinking they are gatekeeping updated suzuka for the next game, or maybe their license contract expired and they cant update the circuit, and maybe the agreement only allows them to just leave it in the game till the next iteration. I really cant find any other logical explanation

 

[GBalao888]

Curious to see if PD updates the Honda logo in game since Honda recently changed theirs in real life

Also Mazda as well.

 

[RACECAR]

Also Mazda as well.

And going by those photos @Quakebass posted, Lexus as well (Didn't even notice somehow until now and I literally watched the Rolex 24 this past weekend)

 

[Gerarghini]

At this point im thinking they are gatekeeping updated suzuka for the next game, or maybe their license contract expired and they cant update the circuit, and maybe the agreement only allows them to just leave it in the game till the next iteration. I really cant find any other logical explanation

I'm gonna use that excuse as to why they haven't included Twin Ring Motegi (my bad, Mobility Resort Motegi great name, Honda) yet.

I mean, come on, PD has a great relationship with Honda, considering they have an entire thing going on with the AFEELA project between them (by proxy; Sony). Same goes with Super Formula who surely would like to have an accurate track.

Oh well. In much the same way PD completely wrecked people using the downshifting glitch/mechanic in the last, random, bug fix update, I kinda get the feeling they'll just drop it whenever no fanfare, no attention, just "Here! Damn! Take your updated track already!"

 

[05XR8]

I'll call Mobility Resort and the new Prelude come as a packaged deal in a whenever update. It'd be a good way to promote the updated (to Gran Turrismo) circuit and the low volume 'Lude.
It'd be expecting too much for us to expect the latest SUPER GT cars. We done missed two generations since the 2016 cars.

 

[mr_pepps]

The 296 is more a reflection of its actual price. Modern GT3 cars have started to get increasingly more and more expensive, in part because there’s no more upper GT categories for R&D to go into, so manufacturers shifted from GT1, to GT2/GTE, and now GT3 for a lot of maximization and innovation.

Increasingly less and less is shared between a road car and its GT3 race car counterpart, or manufacturers are going for designs that are intended to be race cars first, but still able to be sold in a similar road-going variety, like the Mustang GTD and upcoming GR GT from Toyota.

The 296 GT3 has more in common with a prototype race car than a GT car, it basically has 3 or 4 panels on each end of the car, and the engine and gearbox can be pulled out after undoing 4-6 bolts. The chassis itself was redesigned and built by Oreca, who built the old Viper GT2s, currently makes the dominant and preferred LMP2 platform, and the customer LMDh chassis/tubs for Acura, Alpine, Genesis, and soon Ford in GTP/Hypercar classes. An insane amount of development went into its redesign to simplify and shorten mechanic labor at the race track for simple and easy repairs or component replacement, and that’s reflected in the price. Depending on who’s buying and what spares packages you order with it it actually has been hitting that 1.2mil mark, but it’s trended around 800-900k as far as I’m aware. Older GT3 platforms have sat around 400-500k, but all the new Evo packs and new models have been 600-750k, and it’s looking like costs are gonna keep going up now that manufacturers have found new ways to squeeze innovation into the class.

I just want to provide some examples, as I was at Daytona for the last two weekends and got to see a lot of car teardowns in the garages.

Lexus RCF, who’s design is from 2017:

View attachment 1509411
View attachment 1509412

Has a whole bunch of mounts, joints, and structure bars, and a complicated set of paneling for radiators and aero bits.

Compare it to the Ford Mustang, which debuted in 2024 and got an Evo kit this year:

Launch GT3:

View attachment 1509421
View attachment 1509422
View attachment 1509423

2026 Evo kit:

View attachment 1509419
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The engine literally mounts directly to the chassis and firewall as a structured member, and the fenders and bumpers just clip together in 3 parts, with the hood also being able to just clip on to those pieces, and be carried or stacked efficiently as a front end unit. This is how modern GT3s have been getting built and what’s making them cost more.

BMW’s 2022 M4 has similar panel structuring:

View attachment 1509414

Mercedes’s platform is also pretty old and has more similarities to the Lexus as far as inefficient/high quantities of body/panel packaging:

View attachment 1509415
View attachment 1509416

Now compare to how the 296 comes apart:

View attachment 1509432

Unbelievably simple car to work on. Compare it to an Oreca 07 LMP2:

View attachment 1509426
View attachment 1509425
View attachment 1509424

Basically a carbon cage mounted to an engine and then some clip-on aero paneling. This is a Dallara LMDh, but it functions similarly:

View attachment 1509429

And as you say, the R8 is fairly pricey, but that too was a redesigned platform for GT3, in fact the R8 and Huracan shared carbon tubs and used the same race engines, just had different mountings for panels, it may have been one of the early innovators to this trend:

View attachment 1509417
View attachment 1509428

TL;DR, this is all to say many of the modern race car prices aren’t too disconnected from reality. GT3s vary wildly in price depending on their age and amount of development/chassis restructuring.

This is particularly why I’m interested in the TCR’s pricing, cuz it’s the first time we’ll have gotten something from that category. I’m a little interested in the Porsche’s price too, but it should allign more with other Group 3 cars since it isn’t the new-new evo model, tho it may have the evo parts in GT Auto like the 296 did.

Man oh man what a thorough post - excellent insight into what happens behind closed doors on race weekends 👍👍
Thanks for contributing - loved this 👍👍

 

[mynameis66]

Im interested in which new engine swaps we will get.Not really interested in this months cars though,each to their own,but EV`s dont interest me and another Porsche.Happy for those that like them,all good here. 👍

 

[lilcat89]

This is the type of post which just gives every car enthusiast a big damn smile.

Actually talking about the update, im very interested to see which circuits the 992 GT3 becomes the meta, considering its RR layout. Im thinking something like Laguna Seca?

Road Atlanta has always been a happy hunting ground for the Porsches. I imagine Fuji and Autopolis are on that list as well, anywhere that traction is a premium really. The BoP heavily affects it too.

 

[Stephan]

 

[mastretta_mx]

 

[Stephan]

I've been waiting for this for a long time and finally it's here.

 

[GlamFM]

Not that it matters at all, but I'm surprised the GT3 R comes with basically no livery.


EDIT: NICE!

The following events will be added to World Circuits.

World Touring Car 600
Nürburgring Nordschleife

World Touring Car 700
Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps

World Touring Car 800
Mount Panorama Motor Racing Circuit