Gran Turismo - Open World Freeroam? (Read OP)

[ZedMan1996]

Free-raming at Japanese Highways & Mountain Roads.

 

[Gabtremblay]

Yea i like that.. And we could play gt world online and roam.. But with same physics.. Samn that sounds nice

 

[ZedMan1996]

Yea i like that.. And we could play gt world online and roam.. But with same physics.. Samn that sounds nice

Well thank you!

 

[gt5box]

Done right, it would work. Taking Test Drive Unlimited 2 as an example, that had hundreds of miles of roads, a good selection of cars, with a livery editor. If GT Roam had this, plus the attention to detail that GT games normally get, while dropping the attention to detail that isn't needed (B-Spec etc) it would be a winner.

I play Test Drive Unlimited 2 and I think PD Would make a world wide winner with gt roam like tdu2 just with better cars and much more detail

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

I play Test Drive Unlimited 2 and I think PD Would make a world wide winner with gt roam like tdu2 just with better cars and much more detail

As long as they don't change (worsen) the physics from GT5, I don't care. That's my final stand, on the matter, because I know how awesome the photo shoots can be, when there're mountains and such in the background, and you can drive about, until you find your favourite spot for that particular car.


I mean, white cars look great against the ocean, with white-water waves rolling up the coast. It'd be cool, just to have something like that, let alone a freeroam, where you can find billions of camera angles. Yeah, I approve, now. It took me a bit of time to decide.

 

[Griffith500]

This sounds better as a separate GT title, rather than GT6 or any other GT in the main series. And it's starting to sound a lot like TDU2.

Nobody's suggesting that it replace the base game.

All we're asking is for a little bit of freedom to just drive aimlessly about, without the inconvenience of barriers and fixed routes.

 

[Tahli462]

It shall be called Gran tourismo World with every single track from previous series race with friends, make your own track (better updated version)

 

[JBanton]

Visit post 302 for the voting link guys...

I'm no longer the thread host

 

[ZedMan1996]

Bring these back from GT3! And I dont care if they wont make it in premium!​

 

[Afrodeezy]

Bring these back from GT3! And I dont care if they wont make it in premium!



http://www.t3.rim.or.jp/~ray/gt/gtdata/pre/F688S.jpg

That should probably be in this thread:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=260575

 

[bzking23]

why are people trying to make gt into a series in which it shouldn't be, free roam would be useless the way gt6 would impliment it, half the cars in the games are usually race cars, and it would take a lot of time to create cars to act as traffic, gt is a racing game not forza horizon

 

[zedextreme8177]

I personally would love to see a free roam implemented, but not until they fix the following:

- Low-speed tyre physics
- Engine sounds
- More control on the intricate details on the car (like indicators, window-washers (to simulate any effect of dirt/garbage/ even pidgeon poop )
- Most of the problems seen in GT5, in general

It would be nice to see the free-roam areas set in the existing city areas, along with certain other large maps

 

[1241Penguin]

One problem I can see with an open world is the rules of the road. Which country's rules should we use? Presumably, PD, being Japanese, is probably going to use Japan's, so it could be awkward for something like me from Canada, to drive on the other side of the road.

 

[locoman88]

One problem I can see with an open world is the rules of the road. Which country's rules should we use? Presumably, PD, being Japanese, is probably going to use Japan's, so it could be awkward for something like me from Canada, to drive on the other side of the road.

Well they could make a sort of country edition. Where any that are sold in USA, may be programmed to drive on the right side on the road. Vice versa for japan.

 

[zedextreme8177]

^ I'd say include the rules of the road as an option as well, I think it would be a good learning experience for some drivers 💡

 

[Griffith500]

One problem I can see with an open world is the rules of the road. Which country's rules should we use? Presumably, PD, being Japanese, is probably going to use Japan's, so it could be awkward for something like me from Canada, to drive on the other side of the road.

You only need to stick to one side of the "road" when there's traffic. Online rooms already handle their own traffic by specifying what side to drive on in the room title.

Free roam, though, isn't necessarily just public roads - it's fundamentally the ability to drive continuously in a non-repeating environment - what that environment is doesn't matter too much. Obviously, for a large number of people, that sort of "roaming" behaviour is limited to public roads in real life, so it's bound to feature, but it's not something to worry about.

 

[DemurgicDemon]

Sure I would love free roam but this game is not the place for it. Maybe point to point races. But not free roam.

This. 👍

Free roam is all well and good for NFS titles and Burnout; but Gran Turismo? I don't think so. Don't forget that GT is a racing simulator, not a street racing game. Unless PD added police pursuits and street races (which I'd personally hate to see in a GT game), free roam in Gran Turismo wouldn't be so enjoyable. So why include it? I think PD will realize very quickly that free roam and features that could be associated with it do not fit the image of Gran Turismo. So I believe and hope that it won't happen.

 

[Griffith500]

This. 👍

Free roam is all well and good for NFS titles and Burnout; but Gran Turismo? I don't think so. Don't forget that GT is a racing simulator, not a street racing game. Unless PD added police pursuits and street races (which I'd personally hate to see in a GT game), free roam in Gran Turismo wouldn't be so enjoyable. So why include it? I think PD will realize very quickly that free roam and features that could be associated with it do not fit the image of Gran Turismo. So I believe and hope that it won't happen.

What exactly is it that you think "free roam" means? Does it just mean illegal street racing? That's like saying all FPSs are CoD.

 

[1241Penguin]

Given GT5's great physics engine, after a few tweaks here and there (particularly regarding low-speed physics), I'd say a free roam mode would be great fun.

 

[DemurgicDemon]

What exactly is it that you think "free roam" means? Does it just mean illegal street racing? That's like saying all FPSs are CoD.

Well it doesn't have to mean illegal street racing (is there a legal form that I haven't heard of? ), but as far as I can tell there aren't really any other features you can add. I can't see PD implementing police pursuits and street racing in a GT game and I hope they won't, as it doesn't fit the games image. And if they don't implement that, what else is there to do in such a mode? It wouldn't be very enjoyable now, would it?

 

[1241Penguin]

Why can't a free roam mode for GT be something like this?



You seem to be under the assumption that all free roam games involve street racing.

 

[another_jakhole]

Given GT5's great physics engine, after a few tweaks here and there (particularly regarding low-speed physics), I'd say a free roam mode would be great fun.

👍

Well it doesn't have to mean illegal street racing (is there a legal form that I haven't heard of? ), but as far as I can tell there aren't really any other features you can add. I can't see PD implementing police pursuits and street racing in a GT game and I hope they won't, as it doesn't fit the games image. And if they don't implement that, what else is there to do in such a mode? It wouldn't be very enjoyable now, would it?

People make and join online rooms to cruise on race tracks.

 

[Griffith500]

Well it doesn't have to mean illegal street racing (is there a legal form that I haven't heard of? ), but as far as I can tell there aren't really any other features you can add. I can't see PD implementing police pursuits and street racing in a GT game and I hope they won't, as it doesn't fit the games image. And if they don't implement that, what else is there to do in such a mode? It wouldn't be very enjoyable now, would it?

Of course there's legal street racing; it's even in F1!

Free: Not under the control or in the power of another; able to act or be done as one wishes.
Roam: Move about or travel aimlessly or unsystematically, esp. over a wide area.


Add two parts imagination, and away you go!

 

[DemurgicDemon]

👍


People make and join online rooms to cruise on race tracks.

Yes, race tracks. Not the open road. And if PD implemented a mode where you could cruise on the open road, you'd probably be made to drive at a reasonable speed and obey the rules, as in real life. Where's the fun in that?

Of course there's legal street racing; it's even in F1!

Free: Not under the control or in the power of another; able to act or be done as one wishes.
Roam: Move about or travel aimlessly or unsystematically, esp. over a wide area.


Add two parts imagination, and away you go!

Street racing isn't in F1. There are races held on street courses, but they are closed off courses. And the drivers have to follow the course; they aren't free to dictate their route around the track. So technically it's not street racing.

 

[Ronald6]

And if PD implemented a mode where you could cruise on the open road, you'd probably be made to drive at a reasonable speed and obey the rules, as in real life. Where's the fun in that?

Depends on the 'rules.' Where I live it's an agricultural zone, so the speed limit (as the friendly sheriff informed my neighbor yesterday) is 55, not 25. Just because there is one corner where is isn't safe to go over 25 doesn't mean you have to be limited to 25 the entire way.

If the AI drove 'intelligently' (not just programming, but social driving behavior) then you wouldn't have to limit yourself to the 'lowest common denominator.'

Most social driving speeds are limited by 'lcd,' or the ability of the least able driver, or even the possibility of a stupid driver on a blind corner.

Imagine if you will a country lane where the vehicles around you were able and talented, who could understand what speed could be carried through a corner/complex safely. An environment where pedestrian traffic was separated from vehicle traffic even in the city.

 

[another_jakhole]

Yes, race tracks. Not the open road. And if PD implemented a mode where you could cruise on the open road, you'd probably be made to drive at a reasonable speed and obey the rules, as in real life. Where's the fun in that?


Street racing isn't in F1. There are races held on street courses, but they are closed off courses. And the drivers have to follow the course; they aren't free to dictate their route around the track. So technically it's not street racing.

Even though you don't want free roam, a whole lot of other people do. Have you read any of the posts in this thread?

 

[Samus]

Why can't a free roam mode for GT be something like this?



You seem to be under the assumption that all free roam games involve street racing.

Because that is utterly boring and something like that in GT6 would be absolutely slated by the majority of players and the media?

 

[1241Penguin]

Because that is utterly boring and something like that in GT6 would be absolutely slated by the majority of players and the media?

It would appear over 100,000 people would like to disagree with you. And isn't free roam a generally accepted idea?

 

[Griffith500]

Yes, race tracks. Not the open road. And if PD implemented a mode where you could cruise on the open road, you'd probably be made to drive at a reasonable speed and obey the rules, as in real life. Where's the fun in that?

The course generator tracks don't force you to do that.

Street racing isn't in F1. There are races held on street courses, but they are closed off courses. And the drivers have to follow the course; they aren't free to dictate their route around the track. So technically it's not street racing.

Ah, semantics. You're still wrong; you can technically "race" and still obey the rules of the road.

 

[analog]

Because that is utterly boring and something like that in GT6 would be absolutely slated by the majority of players and the media?

Utterly boring to you maybe (and admittedly that clip doesn't do the potential justice, I've seen better or, according to you, slightly less boring ones) but remember not everyone playing a GT-game drives on a daily basis or at all (yet) and even those that do (like me to an extend) might find something like it an interesting feature with different cars to use than their own daily driver.

To me it doesn't look any more boring than doing endless laps on a closed track or tracks in free run which currently is the only option if you want to drive your car aimlessly for a prolonged time, which repeatedness is far more boring considering you know the track beforehand or get to learn it during the session which a free roam mode (be it a huge premade map, user created or generated content) wouldn't have or less, it at least has the option to take another direction or take a turn.

The simple pleasure of just driving around in a nice car seems to be very underrated, yet when I'm not racing other people online it's the only thing I do in GT5, would be nice to expand that aspect within the context of GT, with or without traffic, adding it will mean playing a GT-game casually without a competitive element would become far less boring to me than it often is as it's right now and always has been.